Mini Skirts are NOT for Medschool

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Who the hell said that?!?!?



Exactly, which is why, at certain schools, there is a dress code in class and why, at all schools, there is a dress code in clinical settings and when guest speakers are present in class.


If this thread is so beyond you, why are you here?

He lives in an interesting world. It must have happened sometime between when people were taught how to dress but before any idiot knew how to Google "what wear interview." Must be nice living in such an oblivious, non-existent time.
 
Who the hell said that?!?!?
No one, I was exaggerating to make a point. Because someone's judgement in clothing isn't where it should be for a medical student or physician doesn't mean they cannot learn proper attire. I just think its bourgeois to first write off an applicant because of a mistake in judgement about apparel and second to bitch and whine about it.

So she made a bad decision about her skirt, I haven't seen anyone logically tie that to a reason for or against admittance to medical school. Not logically at least.

If this thread is so beyond you, why are you here?
Speaking of "who the hell said that". lol

Its the same reason I sometimes stop on The Real Housewives when flipping through the channels. Its entertaining like a train wreck.

He lives in an interesting world. It must have happened sometime between when people were taught how to dress but before any idiot knew how to Google "what wear interview." Must be nice living in such an oblivious, non-existent time.

Wow, straight to the personal attacks. Nyce.

Again, just because someone didn't "google what wear interview" or didn't think what thye found was appropriate, or a million other possibilities; doesn't mean they should or should not be admitted to med school.

The judgmental and closed minded attacks on this proverbial girl are gross. That future physicians (some at least) are so shallow and condescending based on one clothing choice is just sad really. I just find trying to extract logical points about the "skirt girl's" intellect, judgement, qualifications, or anything beyond fashion sense and social ineptitude (which runs rampant here) is wrong and comes across a little d-bagish and Jersey Shore-esq.

However being quite a bit older than most in here I'm less threatened by a short skirt probably.
 
So she made a bad decision about her skirt, I haven't seen anyone logically tie that to a reason for or against admittance to medical school. Not logically at least.

What about the fact that by the interview stage, schools are seeking to pull their class from a couple hundred students with roughly adequate numbers? If one student can't dress him/herself, it is not unfair to count that against that person when they are competing against several hundred qualified students who can.

It is not a reason for snap rejection of an otherwise highly competitive applicant, but one can't say that unprofessional dress should just be ignored. When one is surrounded by other competitive applicants, that strike may lead to rejection. It's just reality.
 
No one, I was exaggerating to make a point. Because someone's judgement in clothing isn't where it should be for a medical student or physician doesn't mean they cannot learn proper attire. I just think its bourgeois to first write off an applicant because of a mistake in judgement about apparel and second to bitch and whine about it.

So she made a bad decision about her skirt, I haven't seen anyone logically tie that to a reason for or against admittance to medical school. Not logically at least.


Speaking of "who the hell said that". lol

Its the same reason I sometimes stop on The Real Housewives when flipping through the channels. Its entertaining like a train wreck.



Wow, straight to the personal attacks. Nyce.

Again, just because someone didn't "google what wear interview" or didn't think what thye found was appropriate, or a million other possibilities; doesn't mean they should or should not be admitted to med school.

The judgmental and closed minded attacks on this proverbial girl are gross. That future physicians (some at least) are so shallow and condescending based on one clothing choice is just sad really. I just find trying to extract logical points about the "skirt girl's" intellect, judgement, qualifications, or anything beyond fashion sense and social ineptitude (which runs rampant here) is wrong and comes across a little d-bagish and Jersey Shore-esq.

However being quite a bit older than most in here I'm less threatened by a short skirt probably.

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What about the fact that by the interview stage, schools are seeking to pull their class from a couple hundred students with roughly adequate numbers? If one student can't dress him/herself, it is not unfair to count that against that person when they are competing against several hundred qualified students who can.

It is not a reason for snap rejection of an otherwise highly competitive applicant, but one can't say that unprofessional dress should just be ignored. When one is surrounded by other competitive applicants, that strike may lead to rejection. It's just reality.

Eh, I can agree with you to a point. If your looking at a decision between two otherwise identical applicants, maybe. However, ask any adcom and they will tell you its never about a decision between two candidates like that. There are so many parts to an individual's application that the length of a skirt worn to an interview ranks quite low.

Professionalism is changing and what was once taboo is now commonplace, we can look at tattoos, hair styles, etc. What one may find appropriate another may not. They haven't been taught the professional nuances of practicing medicine yet. I just think its an ineffective (and insecure) thing to base acceptance on. Med schools teach professionalism. Whats acceptable to a professional TV network saleswoman is absolutely well past a simple short skirt, believe me. So this whole thing seems insecure and condescending to me. A little education can go a long way further than catty remarks after the fact. Just saying.
 
Professionalism is changing and what was once taboo is now commonplace, we can look at tattoos, hair styles, etc. What one may find appropriate another may not. They haven't been taught the professional nuances of practicing medicine yet. I just think its an ineffective (and insecure) thing to base acceptance on. Med schools teach professionalism. Whats acceptable to a professional TV network saleswoman is absolutely well past a simple short skirt, believe me. So this whole thing seems insecure and condescending to me. A little education can go a long way further than catty remarks after the fact. Just saying.
It's about judgement, a critical characteristic, and a choice that reflects VERY poorly on it.

med schools also teach biology, but they don't expect to have to start from scratch.

your example of saleswoman is irrelevant to the discussion. you're not going to show up to a med school interview in a wetsuit because it's professional attire for scuba divers.
 
It's about judgement, a critical characteristic, and a choice that reflects VERY poorly on it.

med schools also teach biology, but they don't expect to have to start from scratch.

your example of saleswoman is irrelevant to the discussion. you're not going to show up to a med school interview in a wetsuit because it's professional attire for scuba divers.

Holy logical circles batman!

Your biology sentence is exactly my point. We shouldn't expect 20 year olds to have a complete set of professional judgement and decision making abilities. I dont think it reflects that poorly on it, its a simple matter of education. I know, its much more fun to sit and talk about her rather than educate her.

My example of a saleswomen is precisely relevant. Your trying to exaggerate it to "work attire" instead of professional attire. A scuba diver doesn't show up for an interview in a wetsuit either 🙄 What a saleswomen wears to write contracts is not the same as the professional attire she wears when meeting clients and doing "interviews". Just like my point earlier about med school applicants in white coats and stethoscopes. As a side note, have you been around female pharm sales lately? I saw one the other day and almost asked her for an autograph thinking she was Lady Gaga.

A young kid who may not have held a job or finished college might only have a limited amount of experience with "professional attire". Pulling from other experiences like having worked in other areas (hence the saleswoman comment) they might make an inappropriate choice. Thats all it is, now if she pulled a Sharon Stone thats a different story. She obviously had enough judgement to be uncomfortable in the skirt.

Bottom line is there are a myriad of other "mistakes" an applicant could make that I would consider much more impacting than this. I'm just saying we shouldn't be so quick to judge and condescend. To those who say she should google proper attire, I would say it shows much worse judgement to accept random internet sites as "authority" than your own experience and education. I would rather interview an applicant in a garbage bag than one who is too scared to make their own decisions and stand by them. If you accept google as your authority you should be rejected many times before someone who makes a mistake on the length of their skirt.
 
no matter how limited your experience is, there should be no doubt that this is inappropriate.

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to argue otherwise is just to argue for arguments' sake, which i know you enjoy.
why does the scuba diver wear something different to an interview? professional and social norms perhaps? he conforms to them, just as an interviewee should.

edit: in the context of medical education, the expectation that a 20 year old should not have the full complement of professional characteristics extends to areas like talking to patients, punctuality (perhaps), etc. it does NOT extend to attire. these things are expected. whether you think this is a good thing or not is quite besides the point
 
idk, i could foresee myself wearing quite a few of these...
 
idk, i could foresee myself wearing quite a few of these...

The sequined ones, in the dead of winter, and definitely in clinical settings while gathering history from patients, I gather.

Fo sho.
 
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What would be really interesting is if someone came dressed like Bombshell McGee to an interview--so many tattoos that you couldn't easily tell that she was naked. I can just see the committe's puzzled look, like, "What is she wearing? or What the. . .? Be fun just to see the committee's expressions. . .
 
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Holy logical circles batman!

Your biology sentence is exactly my point. We shouldn't expect 20 year olds to have a complete set of professional judgement and decision making abilities. I dont think it reflects that poorly on it, its a simple matter of education. I know, its much more fun to sit and talk about her rather than educate her.

My example of a saleswomen is precisely relevant. Your trying to exaggerate it to "work attire" instead of professional attire. A scuba diver doesn't show up for an interview in a wetsuit either 🙄 What a saleswomen wears to write contracts is not the same as the professional attire she wears when meeting clients and doing "interviews". Just like my point earlier about med school applicants in white coats and stethoscopes. As a side note, have you been around female pharm sales lately? I saw one the other day and almost asked her for an autograph thinking she was Lady Gaga.

A young kid who may not have held a job or finished college might only have a limited amount of experience with "professional attire". Pulling from other experiences like having worked in other areas (hence the saleswoman comment) they might make an inappropriate choice. Thats all it is, now if she pulled a Sharon Stone thats a different story. She obviously had enough judgement to be uncomfortable in the skirt.

Bottom line is there are a myriad of other "mistakes" an applicant could make that I would consider much more impacting than this. I'm just saying we shouldn't be so quick to judge and condescend. To those who say she should google proper attire, I would say it shows much worse judgement to accept random internet sites as "authority" than your own experience and education. I would rather interview an applicant in a garbage bag than one who is too scared to make their own decisions and stand by them. If you accept google as your authority you should be rejected many times before someone who makes a mistake on the length of their skirt.

I wholly agree. While, I would question an applicant's judgement in wearing a mini-skirt to an interview, I would do my best to not let it impact my impressions on their doctoring abilities (whether favorably or unfavorably).

To add to the conversation, I think that future medical school applicants should be suitably informed by this discussion. Do not wear mini-skirts to your interviews. While some interviewers might overlook it (as they should), you don't want a reason to get dinged.
 
Funny thread, especially when the definition of a miniskirt itself is argued. Instead of guessing, why not check Webster?

- a woman's short skirt with the hemline several inches above the knee

Then you can look up "several" and you can see that it means "more than one." So, here is a definition of a miniskirt: any skirt with more than one inch above the knees. Can this be appropriate? It can be not only appropriate, but very tasteful. The attorney with whom I have worked for years often wears such a skirt (full suit) and it is very professional and looks great. So if done in taste, it can only help. I obviously don't know the circumstances the OP is describing, but it is not hard to surmise that sometimes a female interviewer might not like such a skirt for various reasons and put the interviewee at a disadvantage. I don't know how often that might happen, but it would probably help if you are a down-to-earth and easy-going individual. If you're haughty, then it will not go well regardless of the clothes you wear.

The interview is a sales pitch. If you're there, then you are just as likely to get in as anyone else. Barring any egregious social handicaps, trivial dimensions like your looks and zealousness could be the deciding factor. So wear whatever makes you look your best.

By the way, you don't have to wear a skirt to look great at all. I know some women who don't have the best legs for a skirt, but the gluteus maximus is absolutely decimus and those professional pants amplify that aspect even further:laugh:.

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Excelsius, your photo example does not depict what most people regard as a miniskirt, regardless of the definitions in Webster's dictionary. The photo example in Post #110 is a miniskirt. Your female lawyer friend most definitely would not being be wearing the skirt in Post #110 to court.

I agree that the skirt in your photo example would be appropriate for a med school interview - it looks professional and really is pretty conservative. It is not a miniskirt as that term is used and understood in popular culture.
 
Funny thread, especially when the definition of a miniskirt itself is argued. Instead of guessing, why not check Webster?

- a woman's short skirt with the hemline several inches above the knee

Then you can look up "several" and you can see that it means "more than one." So, here is a definition of a miniskirt: any skirt with more than one inch above the knees. Can this be appropriate? It can be not only appropriate, but very tasteful. The attorney with whom I have worked for years often wears such a skirt (full suit) and it is very professional and looks great. So if done in taste, it can only help. I obviously don't know the circumstances the OP is describing, but it is not hard to surmise that sometimes a female interviewer might not like such a skirt for various reasons and put the interviewee at a disadvantage. I don't know how often that might happen, but it would probably help if you are a down-to-earth and easy-going individual. If you're haughty, then it will not go well regardless of the clothes you wear.

The interview is a sales pitch. If you're there, then you are just as likely to get in as anyone else. Barring any egregious social handicaps, trivial dimensions like your looks and zealousness could be the deciding factor. So wear whatever makes you look your best.

By the way, you don't have to wear a skirt to look great at all. I know some women who don't have the best legs for a skirt, but the gluteus maximus is absolutely decimus and those professional pants amplify that aspect even further:laugh:.

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Your example of breaking the word to its pieces is not a practical use of the language. Google image search "miniskirt" and determine from there.

Let's go to wikipedia for a more modern definition of miniskirt:

A miniskirt, sometimes hyphenated as mini-skirt, is a skirt with a hemline well above the knees – generally no longer than 10 cm (4 in) below the buttocks;[1] and a minidress is a dress with a similar meaning.

I believe that speaks for itself. Why does everything have to be argued on this forum to point where common sense is rejected just for the sake of arguing? Clearly when anyone mentions a miniskirt they are not referring to the picture you posted nor the conservative definitions people keep throwing around.
 
no matter how limited your experience is, there should be no doubt that this is inappropriate.
:laugh: Exaggerating a point (knowing you have no idea what the girl actually wore) so far "out there" that its absurd to even question is a cute debate trick but lacks logical basis.

If the girl in question wore that outfit to the interview, then I agree with your points. Having no way to prove what she wore, and staying within the basis of reasonable discussion I think its absurd to try and make a point by exaggeration. No one was arguing your pictured outfit was appropriate or even that mini skirts in general were appropriate. Your all over the place here and not even addressing the real points being made.

But thanks for the picture none the less.

Bottom line is there are many areas of "judgement", to try and conflate fashion or dress attire "judgement" to any kind of "judgement" relating to being a medical student or physician is laughable and quite a reach. I'm sure someone who lacks appropriate fashion sense can still be a talented and efficient physician.

Case and point:
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I wholly agree. While, I would question an applicant's judgement in wearing a mini-skirt to an interview, I would do my best to not let it impact my impressions on their doctoring abilities (whether favorably or unfavorably).

To add to the conversation, I think that future medical school applicants should be suitably informed by this discussion. Do not wear mini-skirts to your interviews. While some interviewers might overlook it (as they should), you don't want a reason to get dinged.
👍 Good point. Yes, it does show a lack of judgement in this area, but thats really trite in my mind.

Good point about future applicants as well, this is a good reason to dress conservatively.
 
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Why does everything have to be argued on this forum to point where common sense is rejected just for the sake of arguing? Clearly when anyone mentions a miniskirt they are not referring to the picture you posted nor the conservative definitions people keep throwing around.

I absolutely agree. To add, it also doesn't refer to the ridiculous pictures like the one bleargh posted either. To abandon common sense just to "win" is commonplace here on SDN though.
 
The point is that the word "miniskirt" could be anything from 1.1 inches above the knee all the way to the bikini line. So when someone here says miniskirt is not ok, it really depends particularly what length they're talking about because there is a dynamic range. Some people also have longer legs, so sorter skirts fit fine.

Google images is not really a good measure for a definition of a word, but if a sociologist had a good data to suggest that a miniskirt has a new definition, then Webster would be outdated and in need of a change. I just stick to Webster since there is no way to keep up with all the social trends, even if I cared to keep up.

The photo was just a single example at the conservative range fitting the definition, but it can be shorter and still look good. I don't want to search too much, but something a little longer than this could work as well:

BlackMiniskirt_LARGE.jpg
 
Funny thread, especially when the definition of a miniskirt itself is argued. Instead of guessing, why not check Webster?

- a woman's short skirt with the hemline several inches above the knee

Then you can look up "several" and you can see that it means "more than one." So, here is a definition of a miniskirt: any skirt with more than one inch above the knees. Can this be appropriate? It can be not only appropriate, but very tasteful. The attorney with whom I have worked for years often wears such a skirt (full suit) and it is very professional and looks great. So if done in taste, it can only help. I obviously don't know the circumstances the OP is describing, but it is not hard to surmise that sometimes a female interviewer might not like such a skirt for various reasons and put the interviewee at a disadvantage. I don't know how often that might happen, but it would probably help if you are a down-to-earth and easy-going individual. If you're haughty, then it will not go well regardless of the clothes you wear. ...

The bolded is what the OP is describing, and so it would make sense that it's a skirt so short as to be a hindrance rather than an asset.

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I long ago left the pre-allo forum and I realize that the people that come in here are as anal and crazy as it gets, but I thought I'd mention this for the people that don't know. I'm not sure what possess one to go to an interview for a professional school wearing a mini skirt! It is highly inappropriate. As a student interviewer I don't like to see leg leg and more leg. I don't like to see you struggling to sit because your skirt is barely covering your booty. And if I don't like it as a student, the faculty interviewers can't be impressed. When I see it I question the student's level of professionalism, seriousness, research into the medical profession, research into the application/interview process, time actually spent in clinical settings, etc...
 
:laugh: Exaggerating a point (knowing you have no idea what the girl actually wore) so far "out there" that its absurd to even question is a cute debate trick but lacks logical basis.

did you even read the OP? also, what i posted is a typical 'mini skirt' you can say that is an exaggeration. you would be wrong.
 
The point is that the word "miniskirt" could be anything from 1.1 inches above the knee all the way to the bikini line. So when someone here says miniskirt is not ok, it really depends particularly what length they're talking about because there is a dynamic range. Some people also have longer legs, so sorter skirts fit fine.

Google images is not really a good measure for a definition of a word, but if a sociologist had a good data to suggest that a miniskirt has a new definition, then Webster would be outdated and in need of a change. I just stick to Webster since there is no way to keep up with all the social trends, even if I cared to keep up.

The photo was just a single example at the conservative range fitting the definition, but it can be shorter and still look good. I don't want to search too much, but something a little longer than this could work as well:

BlackMiniskirt_LARGE.jpg

I would consider that MUCH too short for an interview - by at least 3 to 5 inches.
 
At least not for the interviews...

Title should have been "Mini skirts are NOT for med school interviews". There is nothing wrong with hot med school girls dressing skankily for their sexually frustrated classmates.
 
I would consider that MUCH too short for an interview - by at least 3 to 5 inches.

I would agree. If you're taller, you can wear a couple of inches above the knee. In general, I feel its wiser to be more conservative during interviews. Once you're hired, you can play with the dress code a little more.
 
Title should have been "Mini skirts are NOT for med school interviews". There is nothing wrong with hot med school girls dressing skankily for their sexually frustrated classmates.

But see, after her title she specifically said, "At least not for the interviews."
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True, but the title really had nothing to do with the actual thread.

You are correct there.

I really wonder.. do chicks really wear mini-skirts in medical school? lol I would have always just assumed most people wear what they would to their undergrad courses. Maybe jeans and a t-shirt, or whatever is comfortable. *shrug*
 
You are correct there.

I really wonder.. do chicks really wear mini-skirts in medical school? lol I would have always just assumed most people wear what they would to their undergrad courses. Maybe jeans and a t-shirt, or whatever is comfortable. *shrug*
Yeah, there are some pretty good looking girls at my school who still act "girly" in all ways. It's just that they need to switch into professional mode when appropriate. The real challenge is where internet "social networking" meets "profession". People need to be careful what they put on facebook/myspace, etc.
 
Funny thread, especially when the definition of a miniskirt itself is argued. Instead of guessing, why not check Webster?

- a woman's short skirt with the hemline several inches above the knee

Then you can look up "several" and you can see that it means "more than one." So, here is a definition of a miniskirt: any skirt with more than one inch above the knees. Can this be appropriate? It can be not only appropriate, but very tasteful. The attorney with whom I have worked for years often wears such a skirt (full suit) and it is very professional and looks great. So if done in taste, it can only help. I obviously don't know the circumstances the OP is describing, but it is not hard to surmise that sometimes a female interviewer might not like such a skirt for various reasons and put the interviewee at a disadvantage. I don't know how often that might happen, but it would probably help if you are a down-to-earth and easy-going individual. If you're haughty, then it will not go well regardless of the clothes you wear.

The interview is a sales pitch. If you're there, then you are just as likely to get in as anyone else. Barring any egregious social handicaps, trivial dimensions like your looks and zealousness could be the deciding factor. So wear whatever makes you look your best.

By the way, you don't have to wear a skirt to look great at all. I know some women who don't have the best legs for a skirt, but the gluteus maximus is absolutely decimus and those professional pants amplify that aspect even further:laugh:.

black_skirt.jpg



Definition or not, I don't call this a miniskirt. I've gone to plenty of interviews in skirts just like that, and 99% of the time, I got job offers.
 
Yeah, there are some pretty good looking girls at my school who still act "girly" in all ways. It's just that they need to switch into professional mode when appropriate. The real challenge is where internet "social networking" meets "profession". People need to be careful what they put on facebook/myspace, etc.

Agreed. I don't even use either of those sites anymore. MySpace wasn't too bad, but Facebook is just downright skeezy. And people seem to forget that, and post wayy too much information.
 
The point is that the word "miniskirt" could be anything from 1.1 inches above the knee all the way to the bikini line. So when someone here says miniskirt is not ok, it really depends particularly what length they're talking about because there is a dynamic range. Some people also have longer legs, so sorter skirts fit fine.

Google images is not really a good measure for a definition of a word, but if a sociologist had a good data to suggest that a miniskirt has a new definition, then Webster would be outdated and in need of a change. I just stick to Webster since there is no way to keep up with all the social trends, even if I cared to keep up.

The photo was just a single example at the conservative range fitting the definition, but it can be shorter and still look good. I don't want to search too much, but something a little longer than this could work as well:

BlackMiniskirt_LARGE.jpg




I would consider that MUCH too short for an interview - by at least 3 to 5 inches.



No question that is too short and inappropriate for an interview. You may have all the right assets, but there will be a focus on the wrong ones.

This is funny if this is a serious question at all.


What's next? How tight men should where their pants--partial accentuation of package or not--on an interview?
 
did you even read the OP? also, what i posted is a typical 'mini skirt' you can say that is an exaggeration. you would be wrong.

Yup.

Your absolutely incorrect about a "typical" mini skirt. You have some sort of ability to even quantify that? Maybe the OP could weigh in here, but your posting on the belief that the girl in question showed up at her interview in the skirt you posted? 🙄
 
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