Monthly Payment Calculator - For the Undecided

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I looked around the internet for a good monthly payment calculator so I could see what each school was really going to cost me years from now. However, I couldn't find one that was complex enough to account for the different kinds of loans (Stafford subsidized and unsubsidized, Grad PLUS, others), their differing amounts, and their differing rates, so I made my own in Excel!

The spreadsheet is set up to accept amounts from Stafford subsidized (probably $34,000), Stafford unsubsidized ($128,000, or the Cost of Attendance (CoA) - subsidized), and Grad PLUS loans if your schools are really expensive. Plug the numbers in, and you should get the monthly payment over a 10-year period. Also, it calculates the total you pay over those 10 years so you can see how much interest you've paid for each school's education. I've listed my own numbers with a school to add as a guide.

You should be able to get on each school's website and find their CoA. Multiply that times four, subtract any scholarship funds, and allocate the loans accordingly. If you don't need a loan (like the Grad Plus), just delete that row, and it should work fine. You can also add other loans, but make sure you tweak the monthly payment function to include that amount. Not planning on paying over a 10-year period? Change 120 months to 240, 360, or whatever.

Another interesting way to look at these numbers is to subtract the living expenses first and only do this with school expenses (tuition + fees + books). My wife will be working, and the schools that I have been accepted to have similar costs of living, so by removing that factor entirely, I have a better measure of what we will be paying down the road.

A little disclaimer...this isn't absolutely perfect because I excluded tuition increases as well as interest that accrues during medical school. I excluded that interest because many students go ahead and pay it before they graduate anyways. Still, this works way better to me than simpler online calculators because they only accept one amount with one rate, while this helps us gauge the portfolio of loans some of us take out.
 

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I think something might be wrong here.. I decreased my time of payment to 12 and it seemed to htink i'd pay over 1.2 million dollars for my loans. Am i missing something?
 
I think something might be wrong here.. I decreased my time of payment to 12 and it seemed to htink i'd pay over 1.2 million dollars for my loans. Am i missing something?

The payment period is set up for months. Do you want to pay over 12 years? Then, it needs to be 144 months.

EDIT: Actually, I just realized that under the "Total Paid" Column, you'll have to multiply the monthly cell payment by however many payments you will make.
 
boo on the new excel format 🙁

can someone make it compatible for all versions of excel?

or let me know how I can get around the new version... new Open office maybe?
 
boo on the new excel format 🙁

can someone make it compatible for all versions of excel?

or let me know how I can get around the new version... new Open office maybe?

Sorry, guestdoc, I didn't think about that. Here is the compatible spreadsheet. Also, you can go to Microsoft's Office website and download a patch so you can use the newer files!
 

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Cool... thanks!

But now I'm scared. Is $2700/mo even possible for a resident? How does that work?
 
Cool... thanks!

But now I'm scared. Is $2700/mo even possible for a resident? How does that work?

You defer it through residency and pay a bit more per month while you're an attending. I have a spreadsheet that allows you to look at this and play around with the specific numbers, but it's a little complex. I'm going to try to clean it up and post it to this thread this weekend.. but it seems like a couple other SDN posters have already found it to be useful.
 
You defer it through residency and pay a bit more per month while you're an attending. I have a spreadsheet that allows you to look at this and play around with the specific numbers, but it's a little complex. I'm going to try to clean it up and post it to this thread this weekend.. but it seems like a couple other SDN posters have already found it to be useful.

So you can defer? That's good because there is no way residents can pay some of these high numbers with a salary of what, $35,000-$40,000? When deferring, does the loan just sit there during residency gaining interest, and then we pay more per month later? That $2,700/month could get bigger in a hurry.
 
So you can defer? That's good because there is no way residents can pay some of these high numbers with a salary of what, $35,000-$40,000? When deferring, does the loan just sit there during residency gaining interest, and then we pay more per month later? That $2,700/month could get bigger in a hurry.

It DEFINITELY accrues interest while deferred during residency. Most residents will pay only the interest each year so that it doesn't capitalize. So instead of those huge payments each month, you just pay the few thousand a year in interest, or at least as much as you can.

The subsidized portion may not accrue interest while in residency, the laws change recently so I can't be sure, but they may not.

Also, your spreadsheet takes into account 10 years with them all separate, but I know some people opt to consolidate and then take 20 years to pay them off and they end up with much lower payments.
 
It DEFINITELY accrues interest while deferred during residency. Most residents will pay only the interest each year so that it doesn't capitalize. So instead of those huge payments each month, you just pay the few thousand a year in interest, or at least as much as you can.

The subsidized portion may not accrue interest while in residency, the laws change recently so I can't be sure, but they may not.

Also, your spreadsheet takes into account 10 years with them all separate, but I know some people opt to consolidate and then take 20 years to pay them off and they end up with much lower payments.

Thanks for the info. Yeah, my spreadsheet just takes into account what I was doing; any Excel whiz can modify it for themselves. And even though the monthly payments may go down when you pay over 20 years, you end up paying much more money, but hey, people have to decide what setup is the best for them. They just need to bear in mind that it is better in the long run to do it as quickly as possible!
 
Crappity crap. $3,300/month!

It is times like this when I really, really wish that just one of the ROAD specialties was even remotely appealing to me... stupid interest in primary care!

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Thanks for the new link and for the heads up!
 
You defer it through residency and pay a bit more per month while you're an attending. I have a spreadsheet that allows you to look at this and play around with the specific numbers, but it's a little complex. I'm going to try to clean it up and post it to this thread this weekend.. but it seems like a couple other SDN posters have already found it to be useful.

The way I understand it, you can no longer defer through residency. But during residency, you would be paying an amount compatible with your resident's salary. I think I read that residents will pay a little less than $400 a month while they're in training. If anyone else knows more about this, please chime in.
 
The way I understand it, you can no longer defer through residency. But during residency, you would be paying an amount compatible with your resident's salary. I think I read that residents will pay a little less than $400 a month while they're in training. If anyone else knows more about this, please chime in.

This is true. I heard this straight from a dean of admissions.
 
The way I understand it, you can no longer defer through residency. But during residency, you would be paying an amount compatible with your resident's salary. I think I read that residents will pay a little less than $400 a month while they're in training. If anyone else knows more about this, please chime in.

This is true. I heard this straight from a dean of admissions.

Hmm, well, that's barely a stone's throw from what residents would pay even if they could defer, if they were even bothering to pay the interest that is. There is no way a resident could pay a calculated monthly payment of ~$3,000.
 
Yeah, my sheet has a PGY section where you fill in an estimated budget (salary, housing, food, transportation, Step 3 cost, health insurance, etc.) and decide how much you have left after all expenses.. and how much of that you want to put towards payments. It definitely can chip away at the principle if your total loan amount is low enough that the interest is less than the payments (by year) themselves.

Ah, I've tried to clean my sheets up but it's too messy. If you still want it, PM me. Some of you have it already, anyway.
 
Here's a really good pdf that applies to most people.
 

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