Most Prestigious "Name" for Physicians...a question for the smart people...

[NaughtyGirl]

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This is a question for the smart people on here.

Based purely on the "Wow" factor among physicians, medical students etc.

Which of these 3 programs do you consider the MOST PRESTIGIOUS to have on your CV for residency (regardless of chosen specialty)?

 

[Long Dong]

I like mayo, but I'm bias.😀

 

[SomeDoc]

I like mayo too; tastes great on blt's! 😉

 

[Law2Doc]

Which of these 3 programs do you consider the MOST PRESTIGIOUS to have on your CV for residency (regardless of chosen specialty)?

It doesn't really work this way. You have to look at prestige on a specialty by specialty basis. In fact in quite a few specialties there are schools not listed that blow all three away.

 

[njbmd]

Moving to the Residency Forum as this is a residency issue.

 

[Tapout]

No Offense, But Who Cares?

 

[radonc]

in your list, MGH.

but you cant leave out UCSF, Stanford, Duke, UChicago and the specialty you are looking at.

 

[yaah]

None of the above. You make your own prestige to a large extent. Anyone doing any hiring isn't going to respect a CV if the person isn't up to par. Any of those institutions would likely provide good training and set you up to what you want to do, if you put in the effort obviously. Don't pick a program because of prestige.

"wow" factor doesn't apply as much to physicians. Physicians see through people who try to get by on their CV. It applies to the lay public who, in general, know dick about medicine and health care and related issues.

 

[sophiejane]

Moving to the Residency Forum as this is a residency issue.

How about we move it (back?) to the pre-med forums where it will surely create a lively debate.

Things like the prestige factor in a name become less important the further along you get in your education. I guess if you want to write books for the general public or be a frequent guest on Oprah, people might oooh and aaah at your prestigious institution, but other than that....well, 😴 ....

 

[Coastie]

How about we move it (back?) to the pre-med forums where it will surely create a lively debate.

Things like the prestige factor in a name become less important the further along you get in your education. I guess if you want to write books for the general public or be a frequent guest on Oprah, people might oooh and aaah at your prestigious institution, but other than that....well, 😴 ....

Eh, I disagree. Those places listed will open more doors than you can imagine, and not just in the medical world. The contacts, atmosphere, opportunities....

That said, MGH wins. Hopkins and Mayo don't have the global name recognition. I don't care if you're family practice at Harvard, you'll get more respect worldwide than neurosurgery at south succatash u.

Just the way the world works..

 

[yaah]

Eh, I disagree. Those places listed will open more doors than you can imagine, and not just in the medical world. The contacts, atmosphere, opportunities....

So will most large medical centers. What is this obsession with "respect"? To me, it sounds like a lot of people are looking for unearned respect - as in, not wanting to work at establishing a name for yourself, but depending on the institution to give it to you (or to give you credibility). The best doctors in the world don't come from one of several institutions. They come from all over. Certain places have a higher concentration of them, but that doesn't mean it's a monopoly.

The problem is, a lot of the people who are making these claims of great institutions being "better" places to train often haven't even started residency, let alone trying to make their own way in the world. Beware the person who claims expertise "by proxy."

 

[EM_Rebuilder]

Texas Tech!

I have never even heard of the middle one..

 

[OneStrongBro]

Not that it matters.....

The name Harvard Medical School is the best among medical students. This is also true of lay people outside of medicine.

However among physicians, it is Johns Hopkins that has the best prestige factor for residency.

Physicians judge you on where you went to residency NOT where you went to medical school.

 

[sophiejane]

The contacts, atmosphere, opportunities....

"Atmosphere" can open doors for you? That's a little too nebulous to even grasp.

I agree having a big name behind you can open some doors, but you have to earn respect. Prestige, I suppose, can be bought with a big name. But respect, at the end of the day, matters a whole lot more.

 

[Coastie]

Yeah, atmosphere.

Like the "steve jobs productivity zone" at Apple, which states you'll be 10x more productive/creative within 100 feet of him...Stanford is crawling with this..

And btw, I'm not saying one is a good doctor because of x or y institution. Y'all asked about prestige, not anything else, and worldwide, Harvard trumps those two.

"Atmosphere" can open doors for you? That's a little too nebulous to even grasp.

I agree having a big name behind you can open some doors, but you have to earn respect. Prestige, I suppose, can be bought with a big name. But respect, at the end of the day, matters a whole lot more.

 

[Coastie]

Eh, yaah, this person asked us to pick from those three. The answer is that Harvard is the most prestigious name worldwide.

Regarding contacts, etc, yeah, most large medical centers would, but it seems to me that the OP was talking about overall, which includes far more of the world outside medicine. Harvard wins on that front.

So will most large medical centers. What is this obsession with "respect"? To me, it sounds like a lot of people are looking for unearned respect - as in, not wanting to work at establishing a name for yourself, but depending on the institution to give it to you (or to give you credibility). The best doctors in the world don't come from one of several institutions. They come from all over. Certain places have a higher concentration of them, but that doesn't mean it's a monopoly.

The problem is, a lot of the people who are making these claims of great institutions being "better" places to train often haven't even started residency, let alone trying to make their own way in the world. Beware the person who claims expertise "by proxy."

 

[yaah]

Eh, yaah, this person asked us to pick from those three. The answer is that Harvard is the most prestigious name worldwide.

Regarding contacts, etc, yeah, most large medical centers would, but it seems to me that the OP was talking about overall, which includes far more of the world outside medicine. Harvard wins on that front.

The original post asked about a WOW factor amongst people in the medical field. I don't think any of us should perpetuate such rubbish, since the only people who believe in WOW factors are the lay public, premeds, and people with a vested interest in the perpetuation of such rubbish (like graduates of said institutions who are not succeeding as they would have liked).

 

[sirus_virus]

This is a question for the smart people on here.
Based purely on the "Wow" factor among physicians, medical students etc.

Which of these 3 programs do you consider the MOST PRESTIGIOUS to have on your CV for residency (regardless of chosen specialty)?

That pretty much disqualifies me.

 

[OneStrongBro]

You guys are discounting the wow factor among physicians. All you have to do is hang out with a physician group practice especially during recruiting. They spurt out we have a Hopkins guy, Mayo guy, Penn guy on our staff. Sure we all want to be judged on our ability but the fact is that other physicians in the hospital do not have the time (or care) to judge you on your ability. Your reputation among physicians is based more on where you went to residency then you think. This isn't PC but it is reality.

As for MGH, ask yourself this question. How many people automatically connect MGH with Harvard. Sure Harvard has a greater overall name because of the excellence in higher education across all areas. However, when someone brings up Johns Hopkins you automatically think of a leader in MEDICINE.

Hopkins has the best overall name in medicine among physicians.

Take a look at the US News and World Report. Hopkins is #1. MGH is not even in the top 3.

http://health.usnews.com/usnews/health/best-hospitals/honorroll.htm

 

[Coastie]

I thought it was the WOW factor outside of medicine, primarily.

WOW factor within the fields can very quite a bit from institution to institution.

The original post asked about a WOW factor amongst people in the medical field. I don't think any of us should perpetuate such rubbish, since the only people who believe in WOW factors are the lay public, premeds, and people with a vested interest in the perpetuation of such rubbish (like graduates of said institutions who are not succeeding as they would have liked).

 

[southpawcannon]

Yeah, atmosphere.

Like the "steve jobs productivity zone" at Apple, which states you'll be 10x more productive/creative within 100 feet of him...Stanford is crawling with this..QUOTE]

Yeah, people are going to be 10x more productive/creative within 100 feet of Jobs because he is on guard with a sniper rifle to take you out if he catches you slacking and costing his company profits.

If we are going to discuss prestige, where is The Cleveland Clinic in all of this?

 

[Long Dong]

If we are going to discuss prestige, where is The Cleveland Clinic in all of this?

I've seen it on commercials on cnn and msnbc as the number 1 place to get a heart procedure. And according to onestrongbro's usnews list it's the #3 hospital in the U.S.