Mount Sinai vs. Vanderbilt

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So I am trying to make the decision between these two schools. I loved Vanderbilt for the supportive environment and the research opportunities, (and probably because of the name and reputation among residency programs). I am also considering Mount Sinai. I enjoyed my visit there; know they have a less formal research program, but that they also have a supportive student body. My big concern is the Nashville factor in comparison to NYC. I have lived in NY and loved everything about it it, but have no idea about Nashville. I am originally from MA and some call me a typical "north easterner". Is going to Nashville that big of a difference? Would I have better career opportunities by going to Vanderbilt? How is Mount Sinai looked at among residency programs? I am particularly interested in hearing from current students at both schools, but if anyone has any regional experience, or has considered a similar situation please reply. Any type of advice would be greatly appreciated, especially pros and cons of both schools. Thanks guys, good luck with apps!
 
Both are quite respected and neither one has advantages over the other in terms of the prestige of their hospitals/research programs. Although Vandy is more respected in Tenn whereas Mount Sinai is favored in the Northeast.

I've seen match lists from both schools and they don't seem that different, both have people that match into very select programs and others that don't. both are honored on the US News list for best hospitals but for different programs, but they aren't in the "elite" category that NYPresby or UCLA med centers are.

Go with whichever one you like best between those two, although I believe Vandy has the Emphasis program which requires research, whereas Sinai merely encourages it. Vandy also has a more traditional curriculum whereas Sinai is a half-day at most. Also, Vandy tends to give out better financial aid.
 
Go to mount sinai

Hands down the best decision! Be sure to withdraw from vandy ASAP

thanks
 
Now ask yourself, who is the Big Dog in this situation. It is pretty obvious. Medicine, who is the Big Dog in medicine between these two schools. If this were a football game, then you would have to pick Peyton Manning and not Tom Brady. MWillie would say Wash U but that is not your choice. BeatrixKiddo would say, just smoke a cigarette, but you will not find your answer in smoke. Trust your intuition.

Searun
 
IMHO Mount Sinai is not in Vanderbilt's league in terms of prestige. I would go to Vanderbilt, unless you think you "must" be in New York or a big city in order to be happy.
 
My big concern is the Nashville factor in comparison to NYC. I have lived in NY and loved everything about it it, but have no idea about Nashville. I am originally from MA and some call me a typical "north easterner". Is going to Nashville that big of a difference? Would I have better career opportunities by going to Vanderbilt?

Could some people please address this issue specifically? I am actually quite curious myself. I, too, am from the north east, and have gone to school in Cali. I definitely am impressed with Vandy as a school, but am somewhat concerned about Nashville - not really in comparison to NYC, but to just the northeast or cali in general.

I am interviewing at Vandy next week, so I will obviously try to get a feel for this while I am there, but I would also like some fellow SDNers' opinions.

~Silk and Steel
 
Could some people please address this issue specifically? I am actually quite curious myself. I, too, am from the north east, and have gone to school in Cali. I definitely am impressed with Vandy as a school, but am somewhat concerned about Nashville - not really in comparison to NYC, but to just the northeast or cali in general.

I am interviewing at Vandy next week, so I will obviously try to get a feel for this while I am there, but I would also like some fellow SDNers' opinions.

~Silk and Steel

I am from the Northwest and when I visit a medical school, I always check out the area and ask myself two questions: How is the fly fishing for native trout and can I snowboard here and get good air?
 
Well in terms of Prestige and Residency Matching...easy...Vanderbilt.

Also I bet Vandy is cheaper (27% get some sort of merit aid... and i bet there's a lot of fin aid).
 
Could some people please address this issue specifically? I am actually quite curious myself. I, too, am from the north east, and have gone to school in Cali. I definitely am impressed with Vandy as a school, but am somewhat concerned about Nashville - not really in comparison to NYC, but to just the northeast or cali in general.

I am interviewing at Vandy next week, so I will obviously try to get a feel for this while I am there, but I would also like some fellow SDNers' opinions.

~Silk and Steel

When I interviewed at Vanderbilt, the people in Nashville were, hands down, some of the nicest people I have ever met, and the city seemed manageable and friendly. Everyone was happy to have me there. I've heard it's a beautiful city when the trees get their leaves.
 
Well I am a Vandy undergrad (senior), and I have to say I love both the school and city. People have this stereotype that it's nothing but a hick town, but it's definitely not true. However, I came from a Midwestern city of about the same size (~1 mil), and not from a northeastern megalopolis like you. Nashville has been a GREAT place to live as an undergrad. People here are very friendly and live up to the "Southern hospitality" stereotype. There's not much in the way of public transit, but traffic isn't a huge concern either.

The downtown area and nightlife might be a bit smaller than you are used to, but there are plenty of bars, restaurants, and live music joints. If you absolutely can't stand the thought of being anywhere near country music or ever hearing snatches of songs on the streets, I'd stay away, but otherwise you're sure to find something that suits you. It is Music City USA after all, not Country Music City. There are your more standard clubs about half a mile from campus, which seem fine to me, but might be less glamorous than you are used to. There's museums, parks (a full-size Parthenon replica is just across the street from campus), and other cultural icons, but again, they might not be able to compete to yours.

For sports there is Titans football and Predators hockey, then a minor league baseball team which might be more fitting on a student budget. Vandy itself is in the ultracompetitive SEC conference, but being as small as were are, we often get crushed by public powerhouses like U of Tennessee, Ole Miss, etc. Instead of tailgating, students get dressed up for football games, but the visiting fans--who are often swamp the home fans in numbers--have some pretty huge and elaborate set-ups. We do pretty well in the less televised sports, alright in basketball, but not so hot in football.

Nashville itself is pretty safe, especially for being a fairly large city (~1 million people). There's your occasional theft, but serious crime isn't much of an issue. The "Vanderbubble" as the surrounding area is known is especially safe and well patrolled. Unfortunately though, it can also be somewhat expensive for meager student budgets to live on, but is nothing close to what you'd pay on the coasts. The edge of campus opposite to the med center has occassional problems with bums/panhandlers annoying students for money, but it's not much of a problem. I've never felt threatened anywhere and I'm not exactly the most intimidating figure.

The school itself is top-ranked (ok, not ivy league) but cut-throat is the last word I would ever use to describe it. Everyone seems laid-back, content, and cooperative. I even hear the med students are amongst the happiest anywhere by some survey. The whole student body does have a southern, preppy bent, but oddly enough it is very national in scope. Politically, the students might lean conservative, but this is an ever so slight a tilt. I think it just seems ultra-conservative because our top-20 peers are so liberal. The administration, however, is very progressive, and the Dem students are definitely the more vocal of the two parties.

Hope that helps, but if you have any other questions, feel free to send them along!
 
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Thanks a lot for all the advice. Once again, good luck everyone!
 
Well I am a Vandy undergrad (senior), and I have to say I love both the school and city. People have this stereotype that it's nothing but a hick town, but it's definitely not true. However, I came from a Midwestern city of about the same size (~1 mil), and not from a northeastern megalopolis like you. Nashville has been a GREAT place to live as an undergrad. People here are very friendly and live up to the "Southern hospitality" stereotype. There's not much in the way of public transit, but traffic isn't a huge concern either.

The downtown area and nightlife might be a bit smaller than you are used to, but there are plenty of bars, restaurants, and live music joints. If you absolutely can't stand the thought of being anywhere near country music or ever hearing snatches of songs on the streets, I'd stay away, but otherwise you're sure to find something that suits you. It is Music City USA after all, not Country Music City. There are your more standard clubs about half a mile from campus, which seem fine to me, but might be less glamorous than you are used to. There's museums, parks (a full-size Parthenon replica is just across the street from campus), and other cultural icons, but again, they might not be able to compete to yours.

For sports there is Titans football and Predators hockey, then a minor league baseball team which might be more fitting on a student budget. Vandy itself is in the ultracompetitive SEC conference, but being as small as were are, we often get crushed by public powerhouses like U of Tennessee, Ole Miss, etc. Instead of tailgating, students get dressed up for football games, but the visiting fans--who are often swamp the home fans in numbers--have some pretty huge and elaborate set-ups. We do pretty well in the less televised sports, alright in basketball, but not so hot in football.

Nashville itself is pretty safe, especially for being a fairly large city (~1 million people). There's your occasional theft, but serious crime isn't much of an issue. The "Vanderbubble" as the surrounding area is known is especially safe and well patrolled. Unfortunately though, it can also be somewhat expensive for meager student budgets to live on, but is nothing close to what you'd pay on the coasts. The edge of campus opposite to the med center has occassional problems with bums/panhandlers annoying students for money, but it's not much of a problem. I've never felt threatened anywhere and I'm not exactly the most intimidating figure.

The school itself is top-ranked (ok, not ivy league) but cut-throat is the last word I would ever use to describe it. Everyone seems laid-back, content, and cooperative. I even hear the med students are amongst the happiest anywhere by some survey. The whole student body does have a southern, preppy bent, but oddly enough it is very national in scope. Politically, the students might lean conservative, but this is an ever so slight a tilt. I think it just seems ultra-conservative because our top-20 peers are so liberal. The administration, however, is very progressive, and the Dem students are definitely the more vocal of the two parties.

Hope that helps, but if you have any other questions, feel free to send them along!

Thanks so much, Dr, Durden, that was really helpful! It makes me feel more and more excited about Vandy. Of course, that may or may not be a good thing since I'm not in yet, but I do appreciate it.

Vandy, I'm keeping my fingers for you! You know you want me!

~Silk and Steel
 
Like any of these unnecessary school comparisons, everything depends on peresonal preferences. Yes, Vanderbilt is ranked higher, but Sinai has it's plusses. I have heard that med school location is fairly indicative of residency locations. What I mean is that it is likely that a majority of the matches for Vanderbilt may be in the south, while Sinai likely matches more in the Northeast. Whether that be due to individual preferences or familiarity in that region is unknown to me. So a person at Sinai may have more connections to the heavy hitters in the Northeast, whereas a person at Vanderbilt is probably looking at Duke, Vandy, Emory, etc. This is just what I've heard from advisors, etc. Obviously not an end-all-be-all.
 
Like any of these unnecessary school comparisons, everything depends on peresonal preferences. Yes, Vanderbilt is ranked higher, but Sinai has it's plusses. I have heard that med school location is fairly indicative of residency locations. What I mean is that it is likely that a majority of the matches for Vanderbilt may be in the south, while Sinai likely matches more in the Northeast. Whether that be due to individual preferences or familiarity in that region is unknown to me. So a person at Sinai may have more connections to the heavy hitters in the Northeast, whereas a person at Vanderbilt is probably looking at Duke, Vandy, Emory, etc. This is just what I've heard from advisors, etc. Obviously not an end-all-be-all.

and go to Vermont and do some 360's and backflips and land that sucker. Like the realtors always say, location, location, location! Be vertical.
 
Vanderbilt = better school

MSSM = better location


To me, the difference in location here is far too great. It trumps the difference in school quality.
 
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I'd choose Vanderbilt, simply because it has both a better location and is a better school.
 
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Well.....you have to factor in the cost of living as well and NYC is far more expensive than Nashville. 👍
Sorry, I was just being an ass and making fun of your chart. Should be "Choose," no?
 
Well.....you have to factor in the cost of living as well and NYC is far more expensive than Nashville. 👍
cost of living is a double -edged sword. there are reasons places have higher cost of living...
 
I live in Nashville and I love it. Don't be fooled by the country music reputation. There is plenty to do even if you don't wear boots and a cowboy hat (most of the people you see downtown dressed like that are tourists anyway...lol) But if you are into that, then there are plenty of those places too. I love Nashville and would LOVE to go to Vanderbilt. The Vanderbilt area just has a good aura to it.
 
I've also been living in Nashville for the last four years, and I personally hate country music with a passion. I would be cool with living there another four if they let me, though I'm originally from the South and may be biased. FWIW, I'm waiting on news for NYU and may be in the same boat. One thing that really does suck about NYC is living in dorms...
 
Yeah....but then again, I can't see why someone would pay through the nose to live in NYC.
it's very easy. I fell you more correctly mean you wouldn't want to live there. If you are a city person it's hard to beat. You don't have to drive. Actually only 25% own cars. Public transportation never closes (except for a strike every 15 yrs or so). There are also endless things to do. Multiple worldclass museums, theater, opera, movies months before other places, and some amazing restraunts. While true some of these things are more difficult on a students budget, but there are ways to do things for less money. MoMA is free on friday evenings for example. Also while nashville is know as music city it is really for the publishing and recording of music. There is more live music in nyc. There are more bands I want to see who when they tour don't come to nashville. One recent example is Clinic.
 
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