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Viscernable said:
Atm it’s not factoring much into any reads, as the fraction of a wolf point is further divided between 4 people of unknown aff. But if one of them is wolf, I would think Z.
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Zenge142 said:
Where are you gonna vote when I flip village?
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supershorty said:
She's not even voting for you right now...?

I need to start being conservative with my posts, I think I have 30ish left before I hit the cap for today and have to shut up until 1 hour before close.
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I don’t like this exchange at all and agree with shorty here
 
supershorty said:
Talk to me about your Vis and sunny reads, please.
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I'm actually pretty good at reading Vissy. Both factions of Vis ask a lot of questions, but Village Vs is less defensive and is more prickly. I'm actually really surprised that she is being so widely sussed.

Village sunny likes to type in all capitals and is brazen. I remember her wolfing being more subdued. I also don't think she has done much to advance the village. I feel like she has been more active than several people without actually contributing more.
 
holdthemayo said:
Village sunny likes to type in all capitals and is brazen. I remember her wolfing being more subdued. I also don't think she has done much to advance the village. I feel like she has been more active than several people without actually contributing more.
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Are you historically good at reading her?

Because I'm not :laugh:
 
supershorty said:
Yes, this I remember. I'm not sure I've seen a game where you were the one to push her. I swear England is a black hole for me once I started babymodding.
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I just remember making all of my night actions in Old English poetry and messing with Samac in PM because Pippy was stalling for time.

10/10.
 
supershorty said:
My thought train has circled back around to sunny's seeming concern about whether Barks was going to self prez and trying to decide how I feel about that.
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It definitely seems to be a mirror of thoughts that I had when I was wolfing. But, wolves have a private place to put those thoughts. Not sure if that's a mistake she would make?
 
supershorty said:
I know you hedged a bit at the beginning with this, but I'm going to ask you some questions anyway.

Why is sunny above me?
Why is dolphin 1 step above the POE?
Why is Zenge your wolfiest read?
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I didn't know they needed to be in order! I don't really feel more strongly about one "maybe village" than another and same for the other categories.
 
holdthemayo said:
Largely similar to yesterday. The milking the sister thing came on way to strongly for me. The immediate post about the NK also pinged me, because when we wolfed she tried to get out ahead of any night actions right away.
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To clarify. We have had multiple family members play. Zenge and shorty, Stoats and True, Cray and Cessna, and others.

It's never been an issue and no one has ever tried to use it as defense before. It is hard for me to shake.
 
holdthemayo said:
Largely similar to yesterday. The milking the sister thing came on way to strongly for me. The immediate post about the NK also pinged me, because when we wolfed she tried to get out ahead of any night actions right away.
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Oh, I hadn't thought about this. Hmm.
 
holdthemayo said:
To clarify. We have had multiple family members play. Zenge and shorty, Stoats and True, Cray and Cessna, and others.

It's never been an issue and no one has ever tried to use it as defense before. It is hard for me to shake.
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Do you think it would be more likely W/V or W/W, in a wolf!PSV world?
 
holdthemayo said:
Largely similar to yesterday. The milking the sister thing came on way to strongly for me. The immediate post about the NK also pinged me, because when we wolfed she tried to get out ahead of any night actions right away.
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That was a vastly different situation. I had been jailed, preventing the wolf kill. I decided to come out swinging because I thought the WIFOM of "would a wolf actually confess that on thread??" would be enough to stall for a bit (it was, lol). I have zero incentive to do the same in this game because there are no PRs.
 
Crayola227 said:
Close is 7 pm fantassyland time?
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Yes, so about an hour and 20 minutes left.

Crayola227 said:
also can someone give me a game summary??
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But I'm feeling very stuck right now, so not sure how helpful I can be on this front. I'm pretty sure Zenge is village. I feel best about him, I think Dubz, and True.

Vis got very emotional under pressure today in a way that I've not seen her do as a wolf before. It felt like frustrated villager to me than wolf!Vis being pushed.

sunny is MIA and other people have her in the POE, I feel like I don't have enough to go on and since my tendency is to scum read her no matter what, I'm not sure what to do.

I'm realizing how much I've used the mechanics solving crutch in past games and feel very frozen right now.
 
potentialsheltervet said:
I don't think her vote was at all inconspicuous. She dropped a naked vote for sunny and then, iirc, didn't provide much of a justification. I'll have to go back and double check that to be sure but I found it very conspicuous.
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who god hate pronouns when tryin to skim catch up
 
supershorty said:
Yes, so about an hour and 20 minutes left.


But I'm feeling very stuck right now, so not sure how helpful I can be on this front. I'm pretty sure Zenge is village. I feel best about him, I think Dubz, and True.

Vis got very emotional under pressure today in a way that I've not seen her do as a wolf before. It felt like frustrated villager to me than wolf!Vis being pushed.

sunny is MIA and other people have her in the POE, I feel like I don't have enough to go on and since my tendency is to scum read her no matter what, I'm not sure what to do.

I'm realizing how much I've used the mechanics solving crutch in past games and feel very frozen right now.
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all makes sense. my advice then is to talk about the rest of the roster.

mayo and genny and barks thoughts?
 
Crayola227 said:
all makes sense. my advice then is to talk about the rest of the roster.

mayo and genny and barks thoughts?
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I feel okay about genny right now. Barks is in my POE, but not for super strong reasons - I'm still triggered by her first vote on thread (which was an accurate ping in WWedding, but I don't want to lean on that) and by the reads list she posted earlier today.

mayo is also in my POE and I'm currently voting him, but I'm trying to decide how I feel about his most recent posts. He had posted earlier saying that he was catching up, and then it seemed to consist primarily of him responding to my posts, which I didn't feel like was really wolf hunting, but he posted a reads list afterward that I mostly agreed with and his reasonings since then have made sense to me. On the other hand, one of the things that wolf!mayo has done in the past is tunnel on someone, and I'm not sure if his focus on PSV is falling into that category or not. He did raise an interesting point about her that I hadn't thought about - that she, in her last wolf game, tried to get out in front of what had happened overnight and he thought it was similar to her making a comment about her reaction to Paws' death in this game, but I'm not sure I agree with it.
 
supershorty said:
He did raise an interesting point about her that I hadn't thought about - that she, in her last wolf game, tried to get out in front of what had happened overnight and he thought it was similar to her making a comment about her reaction to Paws' death in this game, but I'm not sure I agree with it.
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What do you think wolf!PSV's motive would be for making that claim in a game with no PRs?
 
potentialsheltervet said:
What do you think wolf!PSV's motive would be for making that claim in a game with no PRs?
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I personally don't put a lot of stock in people's reactions to an NK unless they're really over the top, but that's mainly due to my own experiences of reacting to NKs with irritation and then having people be weird about it, and I've been village every single time it happens.
 
supershorty said:
I personally don't put a lot of stock in people's reactions to an NK unless they're really over the top, but that's mainly due to my own experiences of reacting to NKs with irritation and then having people be weird about it, and I've been village every single time it happens.
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THE GRAMMAR *twitch*
 
potentialsheltervet said:
What do you think wolf!PSV's motive would be for making that claim in a game with no PRs?
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Why would PRs matter?

The point is, I could see you making a controversial NK and then quickly posting that you were upset by the NK. It matches how you played before. Admittedly I've only played on game with you, but it let me see how you wolf.

When I contrast your play in that game to True, he's night and day different, you seem almost exactly the same.
 
supershorty said:
My thought train has circled back around to sunny's seeming concern about whether Barks was going to self prez and trying to decide how I feel about that.
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For me it reads more like a NAI mistake. Personally I’m not concerned enough about villagers self-prezzing to panic and ask them before checking the tally and not asking fellow wolves about it in-thread. The same might not be true for sunny but it just reminds me too much of the sort of thing people get fixated on when I’m village for me to make much of it.
 
holdthemayo said:
Why would PRs matter?
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The PRs have everything to do with why I did what I did last game. I knew I'd been jailed and would be mechanically outted by the jailer given that there was only one kill and it was not a wolf kill. I only came in claiming being jailed because I thought that was something a wolf wouldn't be expected to do. And it worked for a little bit.
I'm not sure why you're so focused on that when I actually wasn't the first one to mention Paws being a weird choice. That was Dubz.
 
potentialsheltervet said:
The PRs have everything to do with why I did what I did last game. I knew I'd been jailed and would be mechanically outted by the jailer given that there was only one kill and it was not a wolf kill. I only came in claiming being jailed because I thought that was something a wolf wouldn't be expected to do. And it worked for a little bit.
I'm not sure why you're so focused on that when I actually wasn't the first one to mention Paws being a weird choice. That was Dubz.
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Wrong.
 
potentialsheltervet said:
The PRs have everything to do with why I did what I did last game. I knew I'd been jailed and would be mechanically outted by the jailer given that there was only one kill and it was not a wolf kill. I only came in claiming being jailed because I thought that was something a wolf wouldn't be expected to do. And it worked for a little bit.
I'm not sure why you're so focused on that when I actually wasn't the first one to mention Paws being a weird choice. That was Dubz.
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The concept is you liking to get ahead of night actions. I don't think you only did that with the jailing either, but I dont' have time to go reread another game.

I'm also not village reading Dubz either, so that isn't really a defense. Hanging your village-hat on WiFOM is always a bad defense fwiw.
 
holdthemayo said:
I don't think you only did that with the jailing either, but I dont' have time to go reread another game.
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Really? Didn't we literally just have a discussion earlier this game where you thought I'd only wolfed one time? How would you know what I did in BoWWling?
 
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