Mountains - Game Thread

This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you.
Also, I feel like this happened with PSV, not speechy? Where were people prodding speechy?

It did but both names were being drug around in the discussion that can cause just as many problems as the person being prodded especially since it felt like they were being associated together at that point. Or that was the focus of the discussion
 
Also no shorty one vote isn’t a push but I was trying to give content and help people read me by giving more responses.
 
It did but both names were being drug around in the discussion that can cause just as many problems as the person being prodded especially since it felt like they were being associated together at that point. Or that was the focus of the discussion
But that's not what you said. You said people were prodding speechy.
 
I said that as more of a joke about nobody tagging me for lowposting not as a serious comment my bad. But in general yes I will always call that out bc overall low posting is a cheap way to vote for people IMO
 
I said that as more of a joke about nobody tagging me for lowposting not as a serious comment my bad. But in general yes I will always call that out bc overall low posting is a cheap way to vote for people IMO
Was please voting for any of those people when she made that comment? I thought she was saying she wanted to see more from them.
 
@sunshinefl @supershorty If Dolphin is a wolf, how would that make you feel about me given Dolph voted me D1 (with Paws)?
Paws did not vote you D1.

And your wagon was never really in trouble, without knowing dolphin's meta, it's hard for me to come to a conclusion there. Because sure, I can make the argument that she voted you so if she's a wolf, you're less likely to be - but you yourself know about voting a packmate who isn't in danger for distancing purposes.
 
Yes, I understand what you're saying. But I think last game was a vastly different situation compared to this one.
I'm already not very happy with the situation last game and the idea that it's going to haunt my meta until the end of time isn't an appealing one.
I raised a pup who knows when it’s necessary to bus, no shame in that. Welcome to your heritage.
 
I’m gonna go ahead and already assume that I could prove your generalizations are incorrect by pulling some quotes and providing context but are you really going to make me waste my time doing that?
Are we going to make you waste your time doing anything to provide evidence of being village?
 
Because if you go back and ISO Zenge a bit I’m mentioned multiple times where they’re asking why I’m so high in village reads or low in others because I got the impression they were already feeling like they didn’t agree with others conclusions and me not being here posting all the time is the classic way to push sweeping generalizations to get people to follow a vote.

Because I understand me not being here posting is annoying I totally get that, and maybe if Zenge’s vote had come with better argument behind it I’d understand but it doesn’t really. Regardless I’m going to go ISO some other folks and see if I can update my reads. And get a vote in before work, I’ll have a couple breaks to update and post more but I don’t think my break will time out to vote closing time unfortunately
Sorry I’ve read this so many times and I’m still confused, what are you replying to? What is the “because” explaining??
 
I’m still going through your posts vis but do you still feel the same about all your Wolfy reads?
I’ve been feeling better about Z, worse about Cray. Caveat that there’s a small part of my brain tinfoiling about Z/shorty because one of these days they’re going to powerwolf together and I’m gonna die… but although this is the most paranoid of everyone I’ve been in a game, I haven’t near reached the level of paranoia that I think that’s what happening here. Partly because I think they’d be more excited about the game if they were finally wolfing together.
 
Who's Pete?

Look, I said I was going to look at you harder, not snap vote you.

Here's the thing, I feel like you do this a fair amount and it's probably because you're still new, but you defend other people way more than you should.

Look at it from my perspective: I'm looking at Dolphin's posts, there's things about them that stand out to me, I decide to start pushing and see where it goes, and then suddenly there's you, pushing back.

There are only a few certainties in this game, and, if you are village, you knowing that Dolphin isn't a wolf, isn't one of them.

So you've got to admit. If Dolphin does flip wolf, you coming to her defense, when I started this push, isn't going to make me feel better about you.
Frankly even if she flips village, I'll still be left with this nagging notion that maybe you came to her defense because you, as a wolf, knew she was village, and defended her so you could say "I told you so" later, and use it to build a case for pushing me.

It's fine and normal to defend village reads, I do it too, everyone does it. But sometimes you fight harder than maybe you should, in a way that feels like an attempt to shut down discussion. To put it more bluntly, in a way that feels anti-village. Like, okay, maybe I'm wrong, but let us duke it out and see where it goes, because, again, if you're village, the only thing you should know, for absolute certain, is that you're village. Everyone else should always be a potential question mark.

So you should at least acknowledge the reality, that regardless of Dolphin's flip, but especially if she flips wolf, village should have reservations and questions about how you seemed to defend her here.
Well I can rule out Z/PSV w/w now
 
I’ve been feeling better about Z, worse about Cray. Caveat that there’s a small part of my brain tinfoiling about Z/shorty because one of these days they’re going to powerwolf together and I’m gonna die… but although this is the most paranoid of everyone I’ve been in a game, I haven’t near reached the level of paranoia that I think that’s what happening here. Partly because I think they’d be more excited about the game if they were finally wolfing together.
What does this mean?
 
This is actually a super weird comment to make, looking back at it. At the time that dolphin said this, only 1 vote was even on the board, so while we'd had a fair amount of discussion, to say that people seemed "dialed in" to Vis and Barky was not fitting what the gamestate was. It's also super hedgy and noncommittal at the end. Looks to me like posting without contributing.
I need to read your ISO over again with more attention but on this one - do you see appearing to be unaware of where people are voting as posting without contributing in a wolfy way? Because I feel being unaware of gamestate is more of a NAI “hasn’t had time/attention to pay to the game” thing, as wolves are very comcerned with understanding where votes and sus are going and have wolfchat to catch them up
 
I need to read your ISO over again with more attention but on this one - do you see appearing to be unaware of where people are voting as posting without contributing in a wolfy way? Because I feel being unaware of gamestate is more of a NAI “hasn’t had time/attention to pay to the game” thing, as wolves are very comcerned with understanding where votes and sus are going and have wolfchat to catch them up
No - because she clearly wasn't unaware of the gamestate. The conversation to that point had been mainly on you and Barky. But I thought it was weird to characterize it as people were dialed in or locked in on that when there was, at the time, only a single vote on Barky. It felt to me like kind of saying "well, I guess you guys aren't gonna talk about anyone else, and here's some hedge and noncommittal comments on those people!"
 
Could be how wolf!shorty gets in front of someone who she feels is historically good at reading her reading her wolf and turns it around as “kinda sus that you think I’m sus when you’re usually better at reading me!”. Very much a “control the narrative” powerwolfing kind of move.
 
Could be how wolf!shorty gets in front of someone who she feels is historically good at reading her reading her wolf and turns it around as “kinda sus that you think I’m sus when you’re usually better at reading me!”. Very much a “control the narrative” powerwolfing kind of move.
Have you ever played with wolf!shorty?
 
Could be how wolf!shorty gets in front of someone who she feels is historically good at reading her reading her wolf and turns it around as “kinda sus that you think I’m sus when you’re usually better at reading me!”. Very much a “control the narrative” powerwolfing kind of move.
Is that what I said?
 
What about yesterday's VCA makes you concerned about Cray?
Voting for Barks when mayo and sunny were in the lead, with her reasoning distancing her from the Barks yeet as she represented her vote initially as “make a tie and see what happens”. I haven’t gone back you read what her reasoning for staying there was. But it particularly sketched me out that her initial reasoning was saying something about it being concerning to have sunny and mayo in the lead “if no movement”… and then there was a tide of votes to Barks after she made the tie, and she didn’t seem to care.
 
Day 3 Yeet Tally
Cray (1) - Vis
sunshine (2) - True, PSV
True (1) - sunshine
dolphin (1) - Zenge

5/11
yeet close in ~5.5 hours
 
I do think it’s interesting that both Paws and Dubz were the night kills who could have both presumably been good village assets in reading Dolphin.
I don’t want to put too much stock in NKA but this is a point.
 
No - because she clearly wasn't unaware of the gamestate. The conversation to that point had been mainly on you and Barky. But I thought it was weird to characterize it as people were dialed in or locked in on that when there was, at the time, only a single vote on Barky. It felt to me like kind of saying "well, I guess you guys aren't gonna talk about anyone else, and here's some hedge and noncommittal comments on those people!"
Ahhh okay I see what you mean.
 
@sunshinefl @supershorty If Dolphin is a wolf, how would that make you feel about me given Dolph voted me D1 (with Paws)?
Wouldn’t clear you. I don’t recall that dolph voted for you. Although that’s easily verifiable, it wasn’t memorable so it obviously wasn’t a strong push to actually yeet you.
 
@dolphin106258 asked if cray was still most wolfy. No, 2nd most after true who I am voting for.

Village

12. @sunshinefl

8. @Zenge142



Village leans

5. @holdthemayo

2. @speechy_keen



Neutral

1. @genny

Mixed

15. @supershorty



Sus

6. @Viscernable

14. @dolphin106258



Wolf pack

3. @potentialsheltervet

4. @Crayola227

13. @True
Grateful for this, I think it's going to be very helpful if you flip wolf.

I don't know you super well, but the sharp defensiveness I've seen today has made me feel much more comfortable about voting for you.
 
Feel like we're a little skimpy on votes given how close we are to yeet close.

Not sure if it's the lack of mechanics (no seers who can confidently slap down a vote) or people being shy due to the majority rule or what, but it feels odd.

Maybe I just got too used to big crazy high-power games?
 
I think this is also a hectic time for a lot of people so there are lots of lowposters.
Yeah, I'm not on vacation or nursing a child and it's still been a relatively low-posting weekend for me. I get that. It's just hard adding anything substantive to the thread when there isn't any new information.

I guess I could start ISOing people but I'm a little gunshy given how bad I've been at them.
 
Yeah, I'm not on vacation or nursing a child and it's still been a relatively low-posting weekend for me. I get that. It's just hard adding anything substantive to the thread when there isn't any new information.

I guess I could start ISOing people but I'm a little gunshy given how bad I've been at them.
WW is essentially my social life so it makes me antsy when thread is quiet.
 
But that's not what you said. You said people were prodding speechy.

I realize but have you never been in a situation where you’re typing very fast to beat a clock and your brain is moving faster than your fingers to type.. that’s what was going on. I was trying to give some more explanation into what I was trying to say
 
No - because she clearly wasn't unaware of the gamestate. The conversation to that point had been mainly on you and Barky. But I thought it was weird to characterize it as people were dialed in or locked in on that when there was, at the time, only a single vote on Barky. It felt to me like kind of saying "well, I guess you guys aren't gonna talk about anyone else, and here's some hedge and noncommittal comments on those people!"

I don’t understand this comment in regards to what you said in the ISO and my response, I literally said I made the comment because it seemed to be the topic of conversation at that point in time. I don’t get how that’s not something to say, I wasn’t trying to Allude to their being more votes than there were or whatever is trying to be implied from it.
 
Sorry I’ve read this so many times and I’m still confused, what are you replying to? What is the “because” explaining??

I said because due to PSV talking about zenge’s characterization of my play from the past two days and I was saying that the reason it was being characterized that way was due to Zenge already deciding earlier in the game that they didn’t agree with other peoples opinions before and you could tell because..

I think that made sense idk I’m typing fast bc my break is over (stupid 15s) anyways if it doesn’t I’ll try again later
 
I don’t understand this comment in regards to what you said in the ISO and my response, I literally said I made the comment because it seemed to be the topic of conversation at that point in time. I don’t get how that’s not something to say, I wasn’t trying to Allude to their being more votes than there were or whatever is trying to be implied from it.
Yes, and in making the comment, you didn't actually contribute anything to the conversation. It looks like saying something just to say something.

I'm not going to get into a semantics argument, but the use of "dialed in" when to me, that implies people were locked in on it (which wasn't reflected in the votes at all) and then a total lack of actual contribution in the post was not something that felt very good on reread. You could have brought up other people you wanted to discuss if you didn't think there was a point in continuing the Vis/Barky conversation. There are a lot of things you could have done there instead that would have helped with game solving, and you didn't do any of them.
 
Grateful for this, I think it's going to be very helpful if you flip wolf.

I don't know you super well, but the sharp defensiveness I've seen today has made me feel much more comfortable about voting for you.
By not super well as in I’ve never interacted with you before in my life until this game?

And by sharp defensiveness that makes you comfortable voting for me you mean the same sharp defensiveness that people who know me well expect from me?

Yeah okay. You’re welcome when I flip village.
 
Top