Mountains - Game Thread

[supershorty]

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No, but I don’t see what you see of her play fitting her wolf meta. Idk.

How do you think it doesn't fit her wolf meta? And do you think it DOES fit her village meta?

 

[Viscernable]

I still don't quite get the bad vibes from Cray that everyone else is. Or is the case against her not about bad vibes?

I had initial bad vibes but the feelings have been trending better. Still concerned about her voting history (largely, the reasons she’s given)

 

[sunshinefl]

Zenge pls

 

[Viscernable]

How do you think it doesn't fit her wolf meta? And do you think it DOES fit her village meta?

It doesn’t seem to exactly fit either. And I find her meta has changed over time

 

[Zenge142]

Unyeet Dolphin

Yeet Sunny

Sorry sunny. I’m just not getting wolf vibes from Cray this game.

 

[supershorty]

It doesn’t seem to exactly fit either. And I find her meta has changed over time

How has her wolf meta changed over time?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Final Day 3 Yeet Tally
Cray (5) - Vis, PSV, dolphin, speechy, sunshine
sunshine (6) - True, shorty, genny, Cray, mayo, Zenge
True () -
dolphin () -
PSV () -
speechy () -

11/11

 

[Animal Midwife]

Dead is @sunshinefl Mountain Dew, vanilla townie

​

Roster
1. @genny
2. @speechy_keen
3. @potentialsheltervet
4. @Crayola227
5. @holdthemayo
6. @Viscernable
8. @Zenge142
13. @Truenamer
14. @dolphin106258
15. @supershorty

 

[Animal Midwife]

It is now Night 3.​

 

[Animal Midwife]

Dead is @supershorty Everest, vanilla townie

​

Roster
1. @genny
2. @speechy_keen
3. @potentialsheltervet
4. @Crayola227
5. @holdthemayo
6. @Viscernable
8. @Zenge142
13. @Truenamer
14. @dolphin106258

 

[Animal Midwife]

It is now Day 4.​

 

[Zenge142]

Is that the game we’re playing?

 

[Truenamer]

So we're only allowed one more misyeet, right?

Okay. Alright.

We can still do this.

I'll try and do the spreadsheet thingy that shorty normally does later today.

 

[Viscernable]

Is that the game we’re playing?

Do you see an evident strategy in the NK beyond “kill village-read villagers”?

 

[Truenamer]

Do you see an evident strategy in the NK beyond “kill village-read villagers”?

Paws doesn't exactly fit that pattern, if I recall correctly.

 

[Zenge142]

Do you see an evident strategy in the NK beyond “kill village-read villagers”?

I might. Do you?

 

[Zenge142]

Paws doesn't exactly fit that pattern, if I recall correctly.

No, Paws doesn’t.

 

[Truenamer]

Is it too early to try yeeting AM and seeing what happens?

 

[Truenamer]

Six villagers, three wolves

If we correctly yeet today, I have to believe that vote analysis will make the path clear.

If we misyeet, tomorrow there will be four and three. Still possible, but at that point the entire village will have to correctly come together on a wolf.

I miss shorty and Dubz.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Yeet cray

 

[Truenamer]

Yeet cray

Not going to argue, but reasons? I'll try and look back over her posts this afternoon/evening, I'm clearly missing something with her that y'all are seeing.

 

[Zenge142]

Not going to argue, but reasons? I'll try and look back over her posts this afternoon/evening, I'm clearly missing something with her that y'all are seeing.

No, I don’t think you’re missing anything. I don’t think Cray is a wolf.

 

[Zenge142]

Don’t just react me, 🤔 PSV.

Let’s hear your pitch for Wolf!Cray.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Not going to argue, but reasons? I'll try and look back over her posts this afternoon/evening, I'm clearly missing something with her that y'all are seeing.

I was dead convinced cray/sunny were either w/w or v/w, and sunny flipped village.
Some of the things cray has said pinged me as being slightly odd, and I also feel like (no offense intended here, just an observation) she is deflecting suspicion and shutting down conversation about herself by explaining she has a baby.
Also, shorty was left alive, alive... and then killed last night after mentioning cray was starting to make her uncomfortable.
In particular, cray saying she would unvote me and sheep zenge/shorty after saying she didn't feel good about them makes me super uneasy. I've been thinking at least one of the wolves must be a veteran to be sneaking by so craftily, and Cray fits that bill. I also think the sunny wagon was in part fueled by Cray's packmates, but we shall see.

 

[Zenge142]

Don’t just 🤔react me, PSV.

Is what that was supposed to say.

 

[Zenge142]

Also, shorty was left alive, alive... and then killed last night after mentioning cray was starting to make her uncomfortable.

And since I’m village? How would that affect your read of PSV? Cray? True? (Though I still don’t want to be misyeeted)

It would negatively impact my read of PSV. I don't think it would affect my reads of Cray or True because I think you're exaggerating what Cray was doing in those posts and disagree with your interpretation, and I think you're wrong on True.

Seems more like you were the one shorty would have been interested in. She voted sunny over Cray and said point blank sunny flipping village wouldn’t change her opinion of Cray, but it would negatively impact her opinion of you.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Cray, you're scaring me a little.

This is the post I was talking about, which came after the ones you quoted @Zenge142.
I am very clearly being set up for a misyeet. Yes, it's all WIFOM, but: paws expressed sus of me, dead. Dubz expressed (mild) sus of me, dead. shorty expressed lots of sus of me, dead. That is the most blatantly obvious kill pattern I could have as a wolf and I would not do it. Believe me or don't believe me, fine. But as of right now I am strongly believing, based on vote patterns and post content, that cray is a wolf. About 65% sure one of her packmates is mayo. Third packmate, my vote would be either dolph or you, zenge.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Seems more like you were the one shorty would have been interested in. She voted sunny over Cray and said point blank sunny flipping village wouldn’t change her opinion of Cray, but it would negatively impact her opinion of you.

Yes, she did say that. And I'm very aware of how that makes me seem.
Whoever other villagers are, please: do not take the bait.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Let's also not forget the pattern of NKs: people who could potentially identify when Cray is wolfing.
If I'm wrong, I deserve to be yoten. But I don't think I'm wrong.

 

[Zenge142]

people who could potentially identify when Cray is wolfing.

I literally said the same thing about Dolphin though…

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I literally said the same thing about Dolphin though…

Hmm? I'm talking about people who are dead.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I literally said the same thing about Dolphin though…

Oh, I see what you're saying.
I don't see how that has anything to do with Cray. If Cray and dolph are w/w, so much the better for the both of them.

 

[Zenge142]

Let's also not forget the pattern of NKs: people who could potentially identify when Cray is wolfing.
If I'm wrong, I deserve to be yoten. But I don't think I'm wrong.

Also this is just sort of nonsense.

Paws, as far as I’m aware, can’t read Cray that well.

Dubz can’t read Cray that well.

Shorty can’t read Cray that well.

Hell, half the time I’m not even sure Cray can read Cray that well. I’ve seen her call out her own posts as suspicious.

So the narrative that Cray is killing people who are good at reading her doesn’t hold water.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Also this is just sort of nonsense.

Paws, as far as I’m aware, can’t read Cray that well.

Dubz can’t read Cray that well.

Shorty can’t read Cray that well.

Hell, half the time I’m not even sure Cray can read Cray that well. I’ve seen her call out her own posts as suspicious.

So the narrative that Cray is killing people who are good at reading her doesn’t hold water.

Well. In theory people who have played with her before are a bigger threat than people who have not or have only one time (me, true, etc.)
Anyway, I'm hanging my hat on Cray being a wolf. Shame on me if I'm wrong.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Me trying to articulate why I think Cray is a wolf

 

[Viscernable]

I might. Do you?

No

 

[dolphin106258]

This is the post I was talking about, which came after the ones you quoted @Zenge142.
I am very clearly being set up for a misyeet. Yes, it's all WIFOM, but: paws expressed sus of me, dead. Dubz expressed (mild) sus of me, dead. shorty expressed lots of sus of me, dead. That is the most blatantly obvious kill pattern I could have as a wolf and I would not do it. Believe me or don't believe me, fine. But as of right now I am strongly believing, based on vote patterns and post content, that cray is a wolf. About 65% sure one of her packmates is mayo. Third packmate, my vote would be either dolph or you, zenge.

So in this Wolfy scenario if I’m a pack mate I break the tie away from sunny the villager to my fellow wolf Cray? Yes that’s what we’re saying? I didn’t get to watch the thread last night since I was working but

Day 3 Yeet Tally
Cray (2) - Vis, PSV
sunshine (1) - True
True (1) - sunshine
dolphin (2) - Zenge, shorty
PSV (1) - Cray

7/11
Cray and dolphin are in the lead!
Missing: genny, speechy, mayo, dolphin
yeet close in ~1.5 hours

Unyeet dolphin
Yeet sunny

Shorty does this making it a three way tie.

Day 3 Yeet Tally
Cray (2) - Vis, PSV
sunshine (2) - True, shorty
True (1) - sunshine
dolphin (2) - Zenge, Cray
PSV () -
speechy (1) - mayo

8/11
Cray, dolphin, and @sunshinefl are in the lead!
Missing: genny, speechy, dolphin
yeet close in ~56 minutes

Then we’re down to less than an hour with a three way tie.

yeet sunny

Well I guess I’m breaking the tie. I have sunny and cray in my POE but sunny is just pinging me too much as myself in this moment to feel good putting a vote there, and I’d also like to not be voted preferably so

Vote cray

Also I didn’t even see Genny’s vote until I caught up after work so that’s fun lol.

#### unvote Dolph ###

#### vote sunny ####

Worried I'm getting too many votes, and my POE while pretty large, doesn't include me

Self prezzing here, obvs makes sense.

Day 3 Yeet Tally
Cray (4) - Vis, PSV, dolphin, speechy
sunshine (4) - True, shorty, genny, Cray
True (1) - sunshine
dolphin (1) - Zenge
PSV () -
speechy (1) - mayo

11/11
sunshine and Cray are in the lead!
yeet close in ~27 minutes

So then here if cray is a wolf we have a tie with less than thirty minutes to close

Unyeet noob
Yeet Sunny

I have to go with the better read. Sorry.

Sunny goes into the lead here away from Cray

Also baffled as to why sunny's has self-prezzed onto cray?

Unyeet true
Yeet cray

Then obviously a self prez makes sense.

Day 3 Yeet Tally
Cray (5) - Vis, PSV, dolphin, speechy, sunshine
sunshine (5) - True, shorty, genny, Cray, mayo
True () -
dolphin (1) - Zenge
PSV () -
speechy () -

11/11
sunshine and Cray are in the lead!
yeet close in ~14 minutes

Then we’re tied again just waiting on Zenge to make a decision, two questions for you PSV do you still think the Cray as a wolf makes sense with looking back at how the votes accumulated? That’s a serious question not meant to be snarky or anything. And do you still think it makes sense for me to be in a pack with Cray? Because I don’t think that part of your theory holds up, keeping her in a tie with the last remaining vote as the deciding factor? That’s basically a coin flip. Unless then you’re saying Zenge is in the pack too?

I obviously voted Cray last night bc that’s what I was thinking in that moment between sunny and her. And Cray being in my POE made sense, but I’m trying to go over everything again because I know this vote is important. So idk this is where I’m at after looking at the votes but I’m trying to go back over basically everyone.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Then we’re tied again just waiting on Zenge to make a decision, two questions for you PSV do you still think the Cray as a wolf makes sense with looking back at how the votes accumulated? That’s a serious question not meant to be snarky or anything. And do you still think it makes sense for me to be in a pack with Cray? Because I don’t think that part of your theory holds up, keeping her in a tie with the last remaining vote as the deciding factor? That’s basically a coin flip. Unless then you’re saying Zenge is in the pack too?

I obviously voted Cray last night bc that’s what I was thinking in that moment between sunny and her. And Cray being in my POE made sense, but I’m trying to go over everything again because I know this vote is important. So idk this is where I’m at after looking at the votes but I’m trying to go back over basically everyone.

I do think the third packmate (one and two being cray and mayo, respectively) is either you or zenge. I'd forgotten you voted for cray.
Yep, I still think Cray is a wolf. I recognize I'm completely tunneling.

 

[Truenamer]

So in this Wolfy scenario if I’m a pack mate I break the tie away from sunny the villager to my fellow wolf Cray? Yes that’s what we’re saying? I didn’t get to watch the thread last night since I was working but


Shorty does this making it a three way tie.

Then we’re down to less than an hour with a three way tie.


Also I didn’t even see Genny’s vote until I caught up after work so that’s fun lol.

Self prezzing here, obvs makes sense.

So then here if cray is a wolf we have a tie with less than thirty minutes to close

Sunny goes into the lead here away from Cray


Then obviously a self prez makes sense.

Then we’re tied again just waiting on Zenge to make a decision, two questions for you PSV do you still think the Cray as a wolf makes sense with looking back at how the votes accumulated? That’s a serious question not meant to be snarky or anything. And do you still think it makes sense for me to be in a pack with Cray? Because I don’t think that part of your theory holds up, keeping her in a tie with the last remaining vote as the deciding factor? That’s basically a coin flip. Unless then you’re saying Zenge is in the pack too?

I obviously voted Cray last night bc that’s what I was thinking in that moment between sunny and her. And Cray being in my POE made sense, but I’m trying to go over everything again because I know this vote is important. So idk this is where I’m at after looking at the votes but I’m trying to go back over basically everyone.

Seeing it like this makes me feel worse about Mayo.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Seeing it like this makes me feel worse about Mayo.

Yeah, looking at vote analysis strongest two wolf reads are Cray and mayo. I've seen Cray like a few of my posts lately but I guess she doesn't have time to respond to me.

 

[kaydubs]

Day 4 Yeet Tally

Cray (1) - PSV

1/9

yeet close in ~32.75 hours

 

[Viscernable]

Then we’re tied again just waiting on Zenge to make a decision, two questions for you PSV do you still think the Cray as a wolf makes sense with looking back at how the votes accumulated? That’s a serious question not meant to be snarky or anything.

Are you hard village reading Cray now? Or am I misunderstanding this

 

[dolphin106258]

Are you hard village reading Cray now? Or am I misunderstanding this

I am asking a question of PSV not making a read.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I am asking a question of PSV not making a read.

I did respond above if you didn't see

 

[Viscernable]

I have to reread to see if Cray/mayo/genny is possible (or less likely, Cray/genny/Z or Cray/mayo/busser). Very hard to imagine I was that on point, both in general and considering that I’m still alive.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

@Zenge142 Why are you not wolf reading Cray?

 

[Viscernable]

I am asking a question of PSV not making a read.

Okay, the wording sounded leading

 

[dolphin106258]

I did respond above if you didn't see

Yes I did I’m mulling over what you said.

 

[dolphin106258]

Okay, the wording sounded leading

Well wasn’t intended to be I thought I said in that post I am reanalyzing everybody

 

[Viscernable]

I don't want to sketch shorty out, but thinking about moving with her to sunny.

Out of her and Zenge, I trust her more.

Was the Z read vs shorty read really relevant at this point? I think by here it was pretty inevitable she would have to self prez to sunny - i will check. But strikes me as possibly distancing and trying too hard to justify voting for someone she knows will flip village