MSN to MD without a bachelors.

[prodir]

I know there are a few other threads on this, but I have a specific

I have 7 classes left to finish an BA degree in a humanity, but changed directions to a health care science focus.
I am a RN student in an Associates Degree program. I have the opportunity to get a MSN in Clinical Nurse Leadership skipping a bachelors degree.

Should I finish the BA even if it is non applicable to med school, or will the MSN suffice it would put me about 18 months back to apply.

By time of application I will have completed a 2 Biology Course, 2 Anatomy Courses, a Microbiology, 2 Chemistry, Statistics, Graduate Level Bio Statistics, 2 O Chem, 2 Physics, Abnormal Psyc, Developmental Psyc, Biochem, 56 quarter hours of undergraduate nursing courses, and 12 months of Masters course work in Nursing. I also have a ton of Humanities classes. Does this seem like an acceptable load for application to med school.

My next problem I had a 3 semester in my BA program where severe illness in my family affected my GPA. Since changing from a major I was dispassionate about to Nursing/Health care science my GPA has climbed back up to a 3.8. Will a school look poorly upon this if my transcripts are evident of my turnaround in academics?

Thanks for all your thoughts

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[TriagePreMed]

Why get an MSN if you want to be a physician? Seems like a waste of time. Get your bachelors since most schools require it or prefer it.

 

[myhandsarecold]

i don't think you've thought this through. if you want to become a physician, typically (almost 100% of med schools) admissions will only consider people with at least a bachelors, so if I were you, I'd go ahead and get the fastest way to a bachelors degree or higher (I would probably even drop out of the RN program to free up time for that Bachelors, but then that's just me). Prep for the MCATs or get into a post-bacc with MCAT prep component then apply to med school. most of the time, all your previous degrees will not matter (except if you went through a post-bacc program which apparently maybe as rigorous as the 1st year of med school; your performance during that time may indicate your ability to handle medical school curriculum). the only stuff that a lot of admissions ppl care about are: MCAT + GPA and the secondary stuff such as volunteering, +/- research, LORs.

 

[hopefuldoc97239]

This is a clinical MSN, as in a nurse practitioner program?

Having looked into all sort of medical/nursing/etc. programs I'd be astonished if you could get an MSN entirely without a BSN. Are you 100% that the MSN program doesn't automatically award a BSN in the process?

Anyway, I don't think an MSN is necessarily going to help you get into medical school and it's going to take a significant amount of time. The only reason I'd recommend going down that path is if you think you might not be able to get into medical school, in which case nursing programs might be a fall back. But if you're convinced that you can get into medical school (are you in at least the top 10% or so of everyone in your classes?) then I would say ditch the nursing program and just head directly to medical school.

 

[jl lin]

This is a clinical MSN, as in a nurse practitioner program?

Having looked into all sort of medical/nursing/etc. programs I'd be astonished if you could get an MSN entirely without a BSN. Are you 100% that the MSN program doesn't automatically award a BSN in the process?

Anyway, I don't think an MSN is necessarily going to help you get into medical school and it's going to take a significant amount of time. The only reason I'd recommend going down that path is if you think you might not be able to get into medical school, in which case nursing programs might be a fall back. But if you're convinced that you can get into medical school (are you in at least the top 10% or so of everyone in your classes?) then I would say ditch the nursing program and just head directly to medical school.

I am a RN, and I will tell you that nurse leadership positions want experience in nursing AND nursing admin/leadership, MSN or not.

1.Finish your current path for RN and complete the BA.
2.Make sure your pre-req sciences meet MS pre-med requirements.
3.Bring up you GPA as high as possible.
4.Prepare for MCAT
5.Get volunteering and shadowing going on.
6.When all is in place, begin applying for MS.

All the best to you. 🙂

 

[LifeTake2]

I could be wrong, but this is most likely NOT a clinical MSN.

There are several nursing schools (including the one affiliated with the Medical School 1mi from my house) now offering a non-practicing MSN, it is targeted for things like Nursing Managers. It does not lead to the ability to be a LNP.

That said, if this is a non-clinical program I agree with everyone, either you want to be a nurse or you want to be a Dr; you need to pick as the MSN is a waste if you want to practice medicine.