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Thanks for the reply! I meant to say I know the 3rd time around I wont be anxious IF i had to retake. Hopefully not though. Are 2-3 tries with vast improvement seen unfavorably?Do NOT retake.
Get your anxiety under control
Make better choices
It's not optimal. One and done is the best, as with the boards, if you pass you cannot retake. but obviously adcoms will take into account vast improvement.Thanks for the reply! I meant to say I know the 3rd time around I wont be anxious IF i had to retake. Hopefully not though. Are 2-3 tries with vast improvement seen unfavorably?
I guess what Im looking for is someone who took the MCAT multiple times and managed to get into a schoolHi everyone
So I took the MCAT back in January I was scoring really well on my FLs and I knew I knew the material and the test. Thing is I got really anxious the night before and didnt get a blink of sleep (and the day before I only slept for like 6 hours) so my head was about to explode. You know that weird feeling when you get no sleep like its just been 1 LONG day not 2 different days? Either way I got there anyway and took the thing. Pretty much took thay whole thing on a weird trip, panicked a bit during it and guessed on a lot except the Bio biochem. Ended up with 128/123/131/127 509. Although the chem and physics surprised me (i thought i tanked it) i knew cars and psych had gone horribly. Basically couldnt read anything longer than a sentence without focusing. I took it again april but panicked the night before thinking the same thing was gonne happen. But I did get some sleep! Like 4 hours which was enough for me. Because of my nerves however i was having super bad chest pains (im usually a great test taker idk why these 2 things happened). Either way I took this test and feel like it went better especially the psych but still dont know for sure until I find out May. Just wanted to know if scoring so low on CARS would ruin me even if everything went up the second time around. Also in case it didnt or not by too much will it be horrible if I take it the 3rd time? Cause I feel like at this point Im gonna go in there with a la vie est belle attitude and do the way I was supposed to the first time around, but dont want the first and possibly also 2nd score hurting me. What schools reject 3 tries? Thanks loves!
You should not be taking the MCAT on no sleep. You only have the results you obtain - ADCOMs won't say, "well she would have gotten a 128 had she gotten 8 hours of sleep". It's important to make wise decisions. If I were running on no sleep, I would cancel my exam. And coming from someone who scored at the 100th percentile on B/B last June - after a good night's rest - I also wouldn't say that B/B performance strongly predicts step 1 performance, as it tests far less information and focuses more on knowing the basics of physiology and being well-versed in the requisite biochemistry and amino acids, along with passage-based reasoning. Step 1 is much more a content-based exam than it is a reasoning exam, and tests orders of magnitude more content than the MCAT.The way I see it though is that once you take boards you've learned a lot about handling life and have already gone through all of this (the med school process) that kind of desensitizes you to the nerves. Coming out of college there's still so much about life we dont know how to handle and all the pressure put on us to become functioning members of society. Also, medicine is my strong suit. I got 99% on B/B on 30 hours of no sleep and right after knowing I bombed CARS. I think that showed me Bio/medicine is something I could do without thinking too hard about it
The way I see it though is that once you take boards you've learned a lot about handling life and have already gone through all of this (the med school process) that kind of desensitizes you to the nerves. Coming out of college there's still so much about life we dont know how to handle and all the pressure put on us to become functioning members of society. Also, medicine is my strong suit. I got 99% on B/B on 30 hours of no sleep and right after knowing I bombed CARS. I think that showed me Bio/medicine is something I could do without thinking too hard about it
Thing is I can handle both content and reasoning, it's just that on no sleep there's no way anyone can do cars or psych thats all. Steps doesnt have you reading passages on the most obscure subjects and answering trippy questions. I obviously understand its not a good idea to not sleep. I wasnt going to cancel cause I paid money for it nor void it because Im a person that rathers failures than what ifsYou should not be taking the MCAT on no sleep. You only have the results you obtain - ADCOMs won't say, "well she would have gotten a 128 had she gotten 8 hours of sleep". It's important to make wise decisions. If I were running on no sleep, I would cancel my exam. And coming from someone who scored at the 100th percentile on B/B last June - after a good night's rest - I also wouldn't say that B/B performance strongly predicts step 1 performance, as it tests far less information and focuses more on knowing the basics of physiology and being well-versed in the requisite biochemistry and amino acids, along with passage-based reasoning. Step 1 is much more a content-based exam than it is a reasoning exam, and tests orders of magnitude more content than the MCAT.
Ill reply in a few years time when Im studying for it and will let you know haha good luck!Start studying for Step and then see if you still think this.
My nerves before exams are worse than they ever were before I started med school. Step 1 is nothing like the MCAT.
No, but bad choice making is.Thanks for the reply! I meant to say I know the 3rd time around I wont be anxious IF i had to retake. Hopefully not though. Are 2-3 tries with vast improvement seen unfavorably?
I guess it is easy to say what I did was a bad choice when my circumstances aren't known. I just wanted to know if I will get screened out with that 123 even if I scored higher the next or 3rd and last time around. Thanks for your input though!No, but bad choice making is.
Apply smartly and you'll be OK.
Beggars can' be choosy, do bothReally? OP would be okay for MD if she applied smartly or did you mean DO only?
Hi everyone
So I took the MCAT back in January I was scoring really well on my FLs and I knew I knew the material and the test. Thing is I got really anxious the night before and didnt get a blink of sleep (and the day before I only slept for like 6 hours) so my head was about to explode. You know that weird feeling when you get no sleep like its just been 1 LONG day not 2 different days? Either way I got there anyway and took the thing. Pretty much took thay whole thing on a weird trip, panicked a bit during it and guessed on a lot except the Bio biochem. Ended up with 128/123/131/127 509. Although the chem and physics surprised me (i thought i tanked it) i knew cars and psych had gone horribly. Basically couldnt read anything longer than a sentence without focusing. I took it again april but panicked the night before thinking the same thing was gonne happen. But I did get some sleep! Like 4 hours which was enough for me. Because of my nerves however i was having super bad chest pains (im usually a great test taker idk why these 2 things happened). Either way I took this test and feel like it went better especially the psych but still dont know for sure until I find out May. Just wanted to know if scoring so low on CARS would ruin me even if everything went up the second time around. Also in case it didnt or not by too much will it be horrible if I take it the 3rd time? Cause I feel like at this point Im gonna go in there with a la vie est belle attitude and do the way I was supposed to the first time around, but dont want the first and possibly also 2nd score hurting me. What schools reject 3 tries? Thanks loves!
Hi everyone
So I took the MCAT back in January I was scoring really well on my FLs and I knew I knew the material and the test. Thing is I got really anxious the night before and didnt get a blink of sleep (and the day before I only slept for like 6 hours) so my head was about to explode. You know that weird feeling when you get no sleep like its just been 1 LONG day not 2 different days? Either way I got there anyway and took the thing. Pretty much took thay whole thing on a weird trip, panicked a bit during it and guessed on a lot except the Bio biochem. Ended up with 128/123/131/127 509. Although the chem and physics surprised me (i thought i tanked it) i knew cars and psych had gone horribly. Basically couldnt read anything longer than a sentence without focusing. I took it again april but panicked the night before thinking the same thing was gonne happen. But I did get some sleep! Like 4 hours which was enough for me. Because of my nerves however i was having super bad chest pains (im usually a great test taker idk why these 2 things happened). Either way I took this test and feel like it went better especially the psych but still dont know for sure until I find out May. Just wanted to know if scoring so low on CARS would ruin me even if everything went up the second time around. Also in case it didnt or not by too much will it be horrible if I take it the 3rd time? Cause I feel like at this point Im gonna go in there with a la vie est belle attitude and do the way I was supposed to the first time around, but dont want the first and possibly also 2nd score hurting me. What schools reject 3 tries? Thanks loves!
The way I see it though is that once you take boards you've learned a lot about handling life and have already gone through all of this (the med school process) that kind of desensitizes you to the nerves.
Also, medicine is my strong suit. I got 99% on B/B on 30 hours of no sleep and right after knowing I bombed CARS.
Thats good to know! And nice on the interviews! If i may know what schools you applied and got interviews at? Did you matriculate into an MD? Thanks 🙂I was (kinda) in your situation last year. Took the MCAT first time around and scored a 123 in CARS and a score around yours. Took the MCAT a second time and improved in all categories. It did not seem like any place I interviewed at cared that I took the MCAT twice. Can't speak for taking it 3 times, but 2 times is not a death sentence anywhere if you do show improvement.
Thats good to know! And nice on the interviews! If i may know what schools you applied and got interviews at? Did you matriculate into an MD? Thanks 🙂
That's great!! Congrats!I'm not going to list all of the schools out, but I interviewed at places including Hopkins, Penn, and Columbia. And yes, I will be matriculating MD
what are my chances of getting into US MD/DO school?
Took MCAT 5 times - 490, 492, 495, 494 (planning to take 5th time. It has been 1 year since the last MCAT)
Undergrad GPA: 3.65
Also completing a post-bac. Have 2 years of medical field experience and lots of volunteer experience.
Hi everyone
So I took the MCAT back in January I was scoring really well on my FLs and I knew I knew the material and the test. Thing is I got really anxious the night before and didnt get a blink of sleep (and the day before I only slept for like 6 hours) so my head was about to explode. You know that weird feeling when you get no sleep like its just been 1 LONG day not 2 different days? Either way I got there anyway and took the thing. Pretty much took thay whole thing on a weird trip, panicked a bit during it and guessed on a lot except the Bio biochem. Ended up with 128/123/131/127 509. Although the chem and physics surprised me (i thought i tanked it) i knew cars and psych had gone horribly. Basically couldnt read anything longer than a sentence without focusing. I took it again april but panicked the night before thinking the same thing was gonne happen. But I did get some sleep! Like 4 hours which was enough for me. Because of my nerves however i was having super bad chest pains (im usually a great test taker idk why these 2 things happened). Either way I took this test and feel like it went better especially the psych but still dont know for sure until I find out May. Just wanted to know if scoring so low on CARS would ruin me even if everything went up the second time around. Also in case it didnt or not by too much will it be horrible if I take it the 3rd time? Cause I feel like at this point Im gonna go in there with a la vie est belle attitude and do the way I was supposed to the first time around, but dont want the first and possibly also 2nd score hurting me. What schools reject 3 tries? Thanks loves!
I did not take the MCAT two times, but my one score I stuck with had a low CARS (129/124/129/130), and I was surprised with how well the cycle went! I don't think any school screens for a low subsection score, but it is not the best thing for sure.. If your CARS didn't improve, you will definitely need to explain the low CARS on the secondaries and hope adcoms look past it. I hate CARS more than anyone, so I feel your pain. I would not take the MCAT a 3rd time no matter what score you get.
On the secondaries, I just stated something along the lines of, "the subject matter in the CARS section on this test day did not interest me at all, and I often lost focus during the exam. This being said, I realize that it is a standardized test and thus many students must have performed very well. I am disappointed for not performing as well as I could." I think it was well received because I didn't just make excuses, I admitted that I did not perform as well as many of my peers and took accountability for that.
I guess what Im looking for is someone who took the MCAT multiple times and managed to get into a school
Here is some actual data on the topic
https://www.aamc.org/download/485324/data/msq2017report.pdf#page=8
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None? How do you get in without taking the MCAT?
I took it three times and I got into top 10 schoolsI guess what Im looking for is someone who took the MCAT multiple times and managed to get into a school