i thought we were "polluting" the other thread, and decided to start a new thread..wasn't too much of a distraction for the people on the Interviews 2006 thread, i hope! am so glad we're on the same page!! you kidding me?? no where close..maybe do a decent jon bonham, but that was before med school took away my drum kit.. now i harness my talents by trying to type in double bass! again.. wasn't he the "Black Seeds of Vengance" & "In Their Darkened Shrines" dude..he is good. the thing about Hoglan i like the most is that he "plays" with his kit, and not so much concentrates on beating the $hit out of it..similarly, Richard Christy on Sounds of Perseverance, or Flo Mournier on None So Vile also go beyond the fast-and-furious mode..that's why Jon Bonham stays up there in my book. while his contemporaries were in the 1-2-3-4 mode, he was doing a double bass kick on "Good Times,Bad Times"..without a double bass pedal!! i stopped listening to Dimmu after i heard Enthrone Darkness Triumphant.i thought THAT it was a downer, then i heard Obituary's The End Complete..its not that bands shouldn't experiment.that's all Chuck had done with Death,esp Sounds of Perseverance. However,there is a world of difference between trying a new sound, and selling out.. that is so beyond cool! dont you just love it when you get to do something which combines 2(or more) fields you love.. and maybe the horns symbol is something like >-D but this is another mis-conception.metal is not all about "devil worship", though there are some bands which claim to do so..for me, its all about fast, powerful, yet complex music..and maybe some gore thrown in!!