MWU-AZ info

[mwuazama]

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Alright I'm a 3rd year here and here to give you some info about this school.

Year 1 and Year 2 are brilliantly done IMO. The workload is significant but manageable. SIM clinic is top notch, you truly become a pro at those plastic teeth. Instructors truly care about your education and ability to get through the program.

The clinical years (3rd and 4th) are alot less studying and with more time concentrated on actual patient contact. We do not have any requirements (minimum number of endos, SRPs, Class II fillings, Crowns etc) to graduate. This is both a blessing and a curse IMO. Blessing: You won't have the issue of not graduating on time since you just really have to do a competency on 1 of each procedure to pass. Curse: NUMEROUS students graduate with just 1 root canal, 1 denture, 1 RPD etc. Heck there are even 4th years (4 months from graduating) who have not done a single root canal or full denture yet.

Another thing I would like to add is that although the perception is that you will get more clinical experience here at MWU than other schools, this could or could not be the case for you. I have done a good number of procedures so far but some other classmates have not. It really depends on the luck of the draw really. The other thing is that the spread-out of the procedures will be VERY uneven. Yes there will be students graduating with 60 crowns but those very students might have done only 1 root canal or 1 full denture. Once again I reiterate that there are 4th years who have not done a single endo procedure yet. So they will likely be graduating with just 1 or 2 endos while other schools may have a minimum requirement of 5 endos.

We work in pairs and again this is both a blessing and a curse. Blessing is that you have two eyes to help you guage your preps, two minds so you don't forget to etch. But you will spend half your time assisting so although MWU likes to brag that they have the most clinical hours in the nation, half your time is spent assisting.

So overall, I think it is a good program but with some cons attached to it. I would recommend this school. But obviously you have to get your head checked if you choose a private school over your state school.

 

[Incis0r]

Yes there will be students graduating with 60 crowns but those very students might have done only 1 root canal or 1 full denture. Once again I reiterate that there are 4th years who have not done a single endo procedure yet. So they will likely be graduating with just 1 or 2 endos while other schools may have a minimum requirement of 5 endos.

Thank you for sharing!
Question- do they have only one canal because of case availability/patient population, or is it because they simply don't have the time to do more canals on top of all those crowns?

 

[RuffDay]

Question - would you still pick MWU-AZ over the other private schools?

 

[metsfan692]

Thank you for sharing!
Question- do they have only one canal because of case availability/patient population, or is it because they simply don't have the time to do more canals on top of all those crowns?

wondering this also

 

[jeffity]

Graduation is in 6 months, by the way. It really does depend on what falls in your patient pool. But you also need to do more than whine about it if you aren't getting procedures that you want. You can be passive about it and just get what's given to you and still do okay here, or do more about it. People that are slaying it with numbers are generally not solely doing so by luck alone. If I were a D4 with zero endo (can't imagine there are many of us in a class of 110), I'd go to my lead faculty and tell him/her I need endo. My suite doesn't like people getting to D4 without any experience at all. If that isn't working, go to Call or Carroll and ask for hardship patients that need endo. Maybe we won't all graduate with 10+ endos, but if someone is graduating with 1 after 2 years in clinic, you have to put some of the blame on the student, not just the program.

 

[mwuazama]

Graduation is in 6 months, by the way. It really does depend on what falls in your patient pool. But you also need to do more than whine about it if you aren't getting procedures that you want. You can be passive about it and just get what's given to you and still do okay here, or do more about it. People that are slaying it with numbers are generally not solely doing so by luck alone. If I were a D4 with zero endo (can't imagine there are many of us in a class of 110), I'd go to my lead faculty and tell him/her I need endo. My suite doesn't like people getting to D4 without any experience at all. If that isn't working, go to Call or Carroll and ask for hardship patients that need endo. Maybe we won't all graduate with 10+ endos, but if someone is graduating with 1 after 2 years in clinic, you have to put some of the blame on the student, not just the program.

Yeah but there's only 2 weeks of school left this year. You have 21 weeks of school left. Anyway, what you said just confirmed my earlier posts. There is great variation in the educational experience you get because different suites operate differently. Yes there are D4s with ZERO endo and ZERO full dentures. You think these D4s want to graduate with just 1 endo and 1 denture? It is not their fault and there's no way of guaranteeing you won't end up like them.

 

[mwuazama]

Thank you for sharing!
Question- do they have only one canal because of case availability/patient population, or is it because they simply don't have the time to do more canals on top of all those crowns?

Believe me everyone wants to do root canals. No one would give up a root canal unless they were a saint. It's just how your patient base is. Some people do ALOT of crowns but do very little extractions. Others do ALOT of dentures but do very little restorative. Essentially, the spread out of the procedures are uneven for most but there are some people that kill it in everything.

 

[mwuazama]

Question - would you still pick MWU-AZ over the other private schools?

Yeah, no regrets really.