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Pretty dead on call tonight, so I just wanted to share my experience that I had which finally ended today, when I found out I matched into anesthesia. I hope this helps those with scores that aren't so great, but really have a passion for anesthesia.
First of all, let me preface this by letting you all know I am a 2003 US MD grad with below average USMLE scores and class rank. I did 3+ months of anesthesia elective at my home school (Loma Linda) and UCLA.
I really enjoyed anesthesia as a MS and I applied to 60+ programs last year all over the country, went to 14 (anes-in all regions) & 10 (prelim) interviews, and did not match at all. 2 programs (on the East Coast) I interviewed at did not rank me at all (I know because they did not fill). There definitely is a East & West Coast bias. I remember getting that fateful email last year which said "Sorry, you did not match." I knew the odds of not matching was <10% per the NRMP website, and I was devastated. I was not able to scramble into anesthesia and ended up scrambling into a PGY-1 spot in FP on the condition that I would leave after intern year, which I am almost done with.
I never lost sight of my goal to go into anesthesiology, and my search began for a PGY-2 position for 2004 around August 2003. I thought this was best due to the craziness of new residents coming in and I figured not much turnover happened between March and July. I started by emailing almost every PD in the country explaining my situation. Many actually responded, and about 20 programs stated they DID have open PGY-2 spots for 2004. Each program had their own ways they wanted apps, some their own, and others through ERAS, and each wanted different materials. I rewrote another whole PS, CV, got new LOR's, and had to send all these applications via snail mail (painful). I was rejected for interviews for many, but was invited to about 5. I also applied for 2005 through ERAS for backup, again to 60+ programs. I did not get any of the 2004 positions, and was only able to go to 6 anes interviews for 2005. I know I am not a troll and I felt my interviews last year went well, so this year, I was more aggressive in my interview approach this year, and found out some interesting information.
Anyways, I was worried, so I did (another) 2 week anes elective at my home program at their request, and worked my behind off. I impressed the right people, and they even had me running my own room as an intern a few days. I guess they moved me up on the rank list, and I MATCHED for 2005!!! (I called the NRMP today saying that I needed to scramble for a PGY-1 spot, and they told me what state (CA) I matched for anes, 99% sure at Loma Linda, but not 100% until Thursday)
Now I just wanted to pass along some advice to those possibly in my situation, and reassure you that it CAN happen.
1) Hard work goes a long way - but make sure the right people know. Luckily for me I worked with senior residents who were vocal about my performance and talked me up to the attendings who matter. Your home school, or one you've done an elective at know you the best, so make it count.
2) When it comes down to it, SCORES are most important. Someone with a step 1 of 215 or above and US grad should have no excuse not matching, especially if you're willing to go anywhere. Interviews are only 15-30 min, and most places don't even read your app until you're sitting in front of them. When they sit down to make the list months after your interview, what do you think will REALLY make up the rank list?
3) Be persistent - if you're at a place that has an anesthesia program, keep showing your face and interest, without being too annoying.
4) Be realistic - if your scores aren't great and you really want to do anesthesia, be willing to go anywhere. There are pros and cons to every program; didactics, hrs, cases, probation etc., but you'll be an anesthesiologist in the end, right? Save your money on ERAS fees if you know you can't match somewhere. (for me, UCSF, Stanford, MGH, BWH, BID, Columbia, Cornell, JH, etc., you get the drift). And do an elective at a place just a little out of reach without one.
5) Do your own research - I used the ACGME website, scutwork, and these forums a lot during my search. You can "predict" open spots by cross referencing the ACGME approved spots per year in a program with the matched total. I targeted these programs first.
Programs I had interviews with in 2003:
UCLA, Loma Linda, USC, Harbor-UCLA, SUNY-Stony Brook, Yale, Cleveland Clinic, Case Western, Metrohealth-CRWU (did not rank), NYMC-Westchester (did not rank), St. Lukes-Roosevelt, BU, Loyola
Programs that had PGY-2 spots in 2004 in 8/2003 (many programs save spots outside match for people who want to switch) - this may vary year to year, many of these programs already filled these positions.
1)UTSW - always does yearly - variable # - rejected for interview
2)UT-Galveston - 2-3 every year, got interview - rejected for spot
3)UW - 4 this year, rejected for interview
4)UM - ?#, rejected for interview
5)UPenn - 1 spot, own app, rejected for interview
6)Stony Brook - 1 spot this year, I REJECTED them for interview (they didn't rank me in the match...bastards)
7)USF - the way their program is set up, they have 7 PGY-2 spots to fill outside match yearly, need to send app through ERAS, got interview, rejected for spot
8)Cook County - the way their program is set up, they have 5 PGY-2 spots to fill outside match yearly, need to send app through ERAS, got interview, rejected for spot
9)UAriz - 1 spot this year, rejected for interview
10)Cleveland Clinic - always does - variable #, got interview, rejected for spot, was told I was 10 spots on their list from matching, they went down to 40% on Advanced & 55% on Categorical in 2003.
11)Advocate Masonic (Chicago) - always fill some outside match, own app, no interview
12) MGH - 1 spot, what was i thinking?
13) BWH - 1 spot, ditto as MGH
13) USC - 2 spots, said they knew me from previous interview, rejected for spot.
14) UCLA - recent increase in residency size so had ?2 spots this year. PC told me I didn't have to interview, rejected for spot.
15) OHSU - 1-2 spots this year, rejected for interview
16) Henry Ford - 2 spots this year, got interview, couldn't make it
17) Baystate - 2 spots this year, got interview, couldn't make it
18) UT-San Antonio - 1 spot this year, rejected for interview
19) Carnitas-St. Eliz - 1 spot this year, rejected for interview (min Step 1 - 85)
20) UMDNJ-Robert Wood Johnson (Camden) - brand new program at Cooper Hospital, 3 spots per year, got interview, couldn't make it, they said they WILL scramble for 2005 PGY-2 spots on 3/16/04.
Programs that I interviewed at for 2005 (I was limited in time, so I went to some programs I hadn't visited before)
Loma Linda, Harbor UCLA, U Rochester, SUNY Upstate, St. Lukes-Roosevelt, UMDNJ-Newark
Did not go to but offered interviews: Case Western, BU, Henry Ford, Baystate, some others but can't remember.
Rejections: Many, but some that I remember, Loyola (not THIS year, i guess), MUSC (USMLE step 1 min 200 on 1st attempt)
I've been all over the country several times and I've visited a lot of programs these past 2 years. I welcome more specific questions about programs I interviewed at and general advice about looking for out of match positions through this forum. This post is not meant to gloat or anything, but just hope my experience can help someone. Congrats to all that matched, don't lose hope for those who didn't...
First of all, let me preface this by letting you all know I am a 2003 US MD grad with below average USMLE scores and class rank. I did 3+ months of anesthesia elective at my home school (Loma Linda) and UCLA.
I really enjoyed anesthesia as a MS and I applied to 60+ programs last year all over the country, went to 14 (anes-in all regions) & 10 (prelim) interviews, and did not match at all. 2 programs (on the East Coast) I interviewed at did not rank me at all (I know because they did not fill). There definitely is a East & West Coast bias. I remember getting that fateful email last year which said "Sorry, you did not match." I knew the odds of not matching was <10% per the NRMP website, and I was devastated. I was not able to scramble into anesthesia and ended up scrambling into a PGY-1 spot in FP on the condition that I would leave after intern year, which I am almost done with.
I never lost sight of my goal to go into anesthesiology, and my search began for a PGY-2 position for 2004 around August 2003. I thought this was best due to the craziness of new residents coming in and I figured not much turnover happened between March and July. I started by emailing almost every PD in the country explaining my situation. Many actually responded, and about 20 programs stated they DID have open PGY-2 spots for 2004. Each program had their own ways they wanted apps, some their own, and others through ERAS, and each wanted different materials. I rewrote another whole PS, CV, got new LOR's, and had to send all these applications via snail mail (painful). I was rejected for interviews for many, but was invited to about 5. I also applied for 2005 through ERAS for backup, again to 60+ programs. I did not get any of the 2004 positions, and was only able to go to 6 anes interviews for 2005. I know I am not a troll and I felt my interviews last year went well, so this year, I was more aggressive in my interview approach this year, and found out some interesting information.
Anyways, I was worried, so I did (another) 2 week anes elective at my home program at their request, and worked my behind off. I impressed the right people, and they even had me running my own room as an intern a few days. I guess they moved me up on the rank list, and I MATCHED for 2005!!! (I called the NRMP today saying that I needed to scramble for a PGY-1 spot, and they told me what state (CA) I matched for anes, 99% sure at Loma Linda, but not 100% until Thursday)
Now I just wanted to pass along some advice to those possibly in my situation, and reassure you that it CAN happen.
1) Hard work goes a long way - but make sure the right people know. Luckily for me I worked with senior residents who were vocal about my performance and talked me up to the attendings who matter. Your home school, or one you've done an elective at know you the best, so make it count.
2) When it comes down to it, SCORES are most important. Someone with a step 1 of 215 or above and US grad should have no excuse not matching, especially if you're willing to go anywhere. Interviews are only 15-30 min, and most places don't even read your app until you're sitting in front of them. When they sit down to make the list months after your interview, what do you think will REALLY make up the rank list?
3) Be persistent - if you're at a place that has an anesthesia program, keep showing your face and interest, without being too annoying.
4) Be realistic - if your scores aren't great and you really want to do anesthesia, be willing to go anywhere. There are pros and cons to every program; didactics, hrs, cases, probation etc., but you'll be an anesthesiologist in the end, right? Save your money on ERAS fees if you know you can't match somewhere. (for me, UCSF, Stanford, MGH, BWH, BID, Columbia, Cornell, JH, etc., you get the drift). And do an elective at a place just a little out of reach without one.
5) Do your own research - I used the ACGME website, scutwork, and these forums a lot during my search. You can "predict" open spots by cross referencing the ACGME approved spots per year in a program with the matched total. I targeted these programs first.
Programs I had interviews with in 2003:
UCLA, Loma Linda, USC, Harbor-UCLA, SUNY-Stony Brook, Yale, Cleveland Clinic, Case Western, Metrohealth-CRWU (did not rank), NYMC-Westchester (did not rank), St. Lukes-Roosevelt, BU, Loyola
Programs that had PGY-2 spots in 2004 in 8/2003 (many programs save spots outside match for people who want to switch) - this may vary year to year, many of these programs already filled these positions.
1)UTSW - always does yearly - variable # - rejected for interview
2)UT-Galveston - 2-3 every year, got interview - rejected for spot
3)UW - 4 this year, rejected for interview
4)UM - ?#, rejected for interview
5)UPenn - 1 spot, own app, rejected for interview
6)Stony Brook - 1 spot this year, I REJECTED them for interview (they didn't rank me in the match...bastards)
7)USF - the way their program is set up, they have 7 PGY-2 spots to fill outside match yearly, need to send app through ERAS, got interview, rejected for spot
8)Cook County - the way their program is set up, they have 5 PGY-2 spots to fill outside match yearly, need to send app through ERAS, got interview, rejected for spot
9)UAriz - 1 spot this year, rejected for interview
10)Cleveland Clinic - always does - variable #, got interview, rejected for spot, was told I was 10 spots on their list from matching, they went down to 40% on Advanced & 55% on Categorical in 2003.
11)Advocate Masonic (Chicago) - always fill some outside match, own app, no interview
12) MGH - 1 spot, what was i thinking?
13) BWH - 1 spot, ditto as MGH
13) USC - 2 spots, said they knew me from previous interview, rejected for spot.
14) UCLA - recent increase in residency size so had ?2 spots this year. PC told me I didn't have to interview, rejected for spot.
15) OHSU - 1-2 spots this year, rejected for interview
16) Henry Ford - 2 spots this year, got interview, couldn't make it
17) Baystate - 2 spots this year, got interview, couldn't make it
18) UT-San Antonio - 1 spot this year, rejected for interview
19) Carnitas-St. Eliz - 1 spot this year, rejected for interview (min Step 1 - 85)
20) UMDNJ-Robert Wood Johnson (Camden) - brand new program at Cooper Hospital, 3 spots per year, got interview, couldn't make it, they said they WILL scramble for 2005 PGY-2 spots on 3/16/04.
Programs that I interviewed at for 2005 (I was limited in time, so I went to some programs I hadn't visited before)
Loma Linda, Harbor UCLA, U Rochester, SUNY Upstate, St. Lukes-Roosevelt, UMDNJ-Newark
Did not go to but offered interviews: Case Western, BU, Henry Ford, Baystate, some others but can't remember.
Rejections: Many, but some that I remember, Loyola (not THIS year, i guess), MUSC (USMLE step 1 min 200 on 1st attempt)
I've been all over the country several times and I've visited a lot of programs these past 2 years. I welcome more specific questions about programs I interviewed at and general advice about looking for out of match positions through this forum. This post is not meant to gloat or anything, but just hope my experience can help someone. Congrats to all that matched, don't lose hope for those who didn't...