National Spine and Pain

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Looked through the old posts at not much since 2021.

Talked to one of the docs in the group about a job opening with NS and P.

20-25 patients a day. Base 300 but you get that or 20% of gross collections, facility fees, pro fees, UDS and DME.

Does this make any sense? Anyone currently working with them?

 

[Ducttape]

there was this thread for national spine and pain from, um, 12 days ago.

https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/national-spine-and-pain-in-trouble.1487974/#post-24091810

seems like there is a lot of innuendo going on.



fyi, for 20 patients a day, 300k doesnt seem unreasonable, but 20% of gross is, well, real crappy.

and you cant get a % of facility fees.

 

[Agast]

there was this thread for national spine and pain from, um, 12 days ago.

https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/national-spine-and-pain-in-trouble.1487974/#post-24091810

That thread was in the restricted forum so most people probably didn’t read it.

 

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yea I cant see that thread.

I was just told those numbers on the phone and asked again about the facility fee. 20% of collections is trash but then throwing in 20% of the others (dme facility pro uds) makes me wonder what end result would be of a traditional 40-50% of collections.

Anyone work there or seen that model? If its mentioned in that thread would like to hear any thoughts.

 

[Baron S]

The problem is if you want to practice in the DC metro area there's not a lot of other options.

 

[RoloTomassi]

You should have another phone call, record it, and be a stark law whistleblower

 

[Ducttape]

sorry my bad. there was talk about National spine having issues, but seems to be just rumor

 

[sevo00]

Looked through the old posts at not much since 2021.

Talked to one of the docs in the group about a job opening with NS and P.

20-25 patients a day. Base 300 but you get that or 20% of gross collections, facility fees, pro fees, UDS and DME.

Does this make any sense? Anyone currently working with them?

So prob can expect to made mid 400s pretty early into practice. Not bad

 

[clubdeac]

300k for 20 patients a day sucks. I guess it’s reasonable if you’re only doing med management

 

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So prob can expect to made mid 400s pretty early into practice. Not bad

this is what I was quoted by them thanks...the facility fee thing is strange to say the least. Its the biggest pain group there is so I imagine they have a team of attorneys that somehow make sure this doesnt violate stark law.

 

[Baron S]

this is what I was quoted by them thanks...the facility fee thing is strange to say the least. Its the biggest pain group there is so I imagine they have a team of attorneys that somehow make sure this doesnt violate stark law.

Pain Management Organization Pays $5.1 Million to Settle Criminal Medicare Kickback Violations

www.justice.gov

 

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wow guess they didnt learn their lesson