Navy PRT

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For the Navy PRT do I need to just make an average passing score or do I need to pass each individual subset of the test? Also is there any advantage for my career if I do significantly better than passing or is it pretty much a pass/fail test? My I issue here is the swimming section: I'm doing well on everything else but I still swim pretyt much how a duck runs. I want to know if I should be spending a lot of time in the pool.

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You have to pass every component (push ups, sit ups, stretch, and run/swim). If you don't swim well, work on the run. It's either or, not both.

I know that failing it can kill a career. Doing great at it might be a fitrep bullet, but that's it.
 
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Wait, it's swim OR run?

Never mind then.

im actually pretty sure that on the inprocessing PRT at ODS that it is only a run (swim is not an option). and yes, it is a run or a swim and i think in some cases later in your career an elliptical option.
 
At ODS, unless something's changed, you will be running it, but as Tired says, you have other options if you command permits this. You need to pass everything including the BCA (weight in) unless you have a waiver for a particular event. You total score is an average of your score on the situps, pushups, and run (or swim or bike or elliptical or run it on a treadmill). If you get an outstanding, some commands will give you a day of liberty or a 96er (a weekend off plus two days). If you fail it, you are placed in a program called FEP that has manditory workout sessions, mock PRTs, weekly weigh-ins, and it can adversely affect your career.

Since you are probably wondering how you can stationary bike or elliptical it, it is based on your weight and how many calories you burn in 12 minutes time, and there are only certain machines that are authorized for this.
 
I know that failing it can kill a career. Doing great at it might be a fitrep bullet, but that's it.

One of our attendings, now out of the Navy, allegedly deliberately failed 3 consecutive PRTs to see what would happen (specifically, would they kick him out despite his ADSO). To hear his description, other than some mandatory remedial group PT, which he was rapidly excused from when it was obvious he was not really out of standards, there were no repercussions.

When I was promoted to O4, the silly command checklist signature scavenger hunt paper I had to get checked off included a stop at command fitness. Presumably if I'd failed the most recent PRT it could have affected my promotion. I'm not sure how - I'd already retaken the oath of office, picked up a new ID card, and the DFAS/pay changes were automatic. I'm skeptical that the command CO has veto authority over the selection board and the United States Congress. No doubt he could hold up an E3's promotion to E4 over a PRT, but I've never heard of an officer having a promotion rescinded because of a failure.

Fitrep bullets are mostly fluff. The O4 promotion is automatic, provided you've got a pulse and haven't been convicted of any felonies. I know lots of physicians have failed PRTs, but nearly everyone gets selected to O4. If you're up for O5, fitreps matter, and I guess a fail could hold things up, but I doubt that a good vs weak passing PRT score would affect selection.

My impression is that for physicians a failed PRT is more of a beaurocratic hassle involving scolding emails than a career problem.
 
One of our attendings, now out of the Navy, allegedly deliberately failed 3 consecutive PRTs to see what would happen (specifically, would they kick him out despite his ADSO). To hear his description, other than some mandatory remedial group PT, which he was rapidly excused from when it was obvious he was not really out of standards, there were no repercussions.

When I was promoted to O4, the silly command checklist signature scavenger hunt paper I had to get checked off included a stop at command fitness. Presumably if I'd failed the most recent PRT it could have affected my promotion. I'm not sure how - I'd already retaken the oath of office, picked up a new ID card, and the DFAS/pay changes were automatic. I'm skeptical that the command CO has veto authority over the selection board and the United States Congress. No doubt he could hold up an E3's promotion to E4 over a PRT, but I've never heard of an officer having a promotion rescinded because of a failure.

Fitrep bullets are mostly fluff. The O4 promotion is automatic, provided you've got a pulse and haven't been convicted of any felonies. I know lots of physicians have failed PRTs, but nearly everyone gets selected to O4. If you're up for O5, fitreps matter, and I guess a fail could hold things up, but I doubt that a good vs weak passing PRT score would affect selection.

My impression is that for physicians a failed PRT is more of a beaurocratic hassle involving scolding emails than a career problem.

I know one guy who got passed over for PRT failure. This guy was one of only a few above zone LTs a couple of years ago. However, he had been an intern, GMO, resident, and now attending without EVER even passing the PRT, and he looked the part. I can see how requiring an outstanding or excelent is a little harsh, but there isn't much of an excuse for not passing the Navy PRT in 6 years.
 
I had always heard that they would take your bonus pay if you didn't pass.
 
A PRT failure, at least according to official Navy policy, red-flags your file and prevents you from being promoted until you pass one. I agree, that I doubt they could rescind a promotion, but I've heard of plenty of people who never get that far because of the PRT.

It is also supposed to prevent you from PCS'ing, so I guess if you really like your duty station, that's one way to homestead.

I don't know about failing the active portion of the PRT, but being out of body fat standards can and does hold up promotions. Even if you are selected, your CO can block you from moving up.

Also, failing a PRT makes you ineligible for selection for GME-2+.
 
I saw "Navy PRT" and thought Provincial Reconstruction Team...which would be quite an experience for a physican to be on one of those...but alas physical fitness is much less interesting
 
There are 4 parts that you must pass.

1. Sit and reach
2. sit-ups
3.push-ups
4.cardio (swim, run, etc.)!!!!!!!

The monitors are a little more forgiving on pushups and situps if your form is not good or you slightly fudge your numbers by 1 or 2. However, the cardio speaks volumes. Just last week, I had to fail a guy on pushups. He was 26 and only did 23 pushups. I tried to fudge his numbers up to 30, but he still failed. Moral of the story, aim to really pass all parts of the PRT.

Failure = FEP (Really embarrasing mandatory exercise & weekly weigh in for Officers and enlisted) Avoid it at all costs. I heard it could be really annoying, especially for a resident trying to fit that crap into their busy schedule.
 
You're not very nice. My last PRT of my last command, I was partnered with some enlisted kid. Not sure what his problem was, he was thin, could do 80 pushups and finished the run in 10:30. But on situps, he literally could only do 30 (needed like 60 to pass). I just told the proctor he did 61, and told him he needed to see doctor because that's just not normal.

The real moral of the story is to make sure you can do the run, and always go take the test with a friend.

Well done.

I haven't touched my toes without bending my knees since I was about 10 years old. Never failed a PRT though. 🙂
 
Well done.

I haven't touched my toes without bending my knees since I was about 10 years old. Never failed a PRT though. 🙂

I disagree. I agree that the toe touch is a little weird, but it's also really pushing it to have to lie in order to PASS any other part of a Navy PFA. Seriously, 2 weeks of preparation and my great grandmother could pass the PFA. If you are having to lie for someone in order for them to just pass the minimum then you are doing that person no favors. If you can't pass it, then you can't pass it. Deal with the consequences. Or go to sick call and get an excuse. Frankly, it's embarrassing looking at some of the excuses for military members that are running around the hospital. I feel like I'm back in Wal-Mart in Mississippi sometimes. If you don't want to follow the standards then please just get out. Or, better yet, change the standards so we aren't pretending that physical fitness is a priority in the Navy.
 
If you don't want to follow the standards then please just get out. Or, better yet, change the standards so we aren't pretending that physical fitness is a priority in the Navy.

Physical fitness is not a priority in the Navy...it's all RVU's nowadays.
 
For the Navy PRT do I need to just make an average passing score or do I need to pass each individual subset of the test? Also is there any advantage for my career if I do significantly better than passing or is it pretty much a pass/fail test? My I issue here is the swimming section: I'm doing well on everything else but I still swim pretyt much how a duck runs. I want to know if I should be spending a lot of time in the pool.



If you are lucky, you might get an extra liberty day with a good PRT score. That’s about it…
 
You're not very nice. My last PRT of my last command, I was partnered with some enlisted kid. Not sure what his problem was, he was thin, could do 80 pushups and finished the run in 10:30. But on situps, he literally could only do 30 (needed like 60 to pass). I just told the proctor he did 61, and told him he needed to see doctor because that's just not normal.

The real moral of the story is to make sure you can do the run, and always go take the test with a friend.

I am not mean 😡....I tried to hook this poor guy up. The problem is, the monitors were standing right over him because his form sucked. There was no way I could skip from 23 to 60. Befor he started, I asked him how many he needed, His reply, " I don't know." This guy has already failed the PRT 4 previous times. Personally, I have no idea why he was still able to test it. I thought 3 strikes and you are out.
 
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