Navy Radiology!!

[deleted489673]

Hi all!

Quick question(s) for you.
I'm currently an MSII HPSP student looking to do Navy Radiology with a transitional year internship
For my audition rotations, should I be rotating in radiology programs?
And then on my application, apply to TY programs?
Do I actually interview with TY programs or radiology programs in my 4th year?
If I am interviewing with TY programs in 4th year, then when do I interview with radiology programs?

I'm just a bit confused about the process. Any help would be much appreciated!

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[Roberie]

You would rotate at radiology programs. They're the ones to impress, and with radiology as an auditioning med stud, "impress" has more to do with having an appropriate level of interest while simultaneously having a personality that jives well with the program.

I didn't have any contact with TY programs before the match. Matching rads will automatically place you in the TY slot for that location. At least that's how it works for the army.

 

[Cooperd0g]

Roberie's info regarding the match may be true for Army, but not Navy. It is a good idea to set up audition rotations with the Radiology department like he says, but you will also need to specifically interview with the Transitional program. Your match will only be for PGY1 so you are going to specifically be applying for Transitional. Probably best to try and get the hospital you would like to eventually do Radiology at, but very few in the Navy go straight through. From what I was told NMCP and NMCSD each take one straight through and Bethesda will only sometimes take someone straight through.

 

[backrow]

NMCSD definitely doesn't take anyone straight through. (Unless someone did this year)

 

[Red Lobster Actual]

Probably best to try and get the hospital you would like to eventually do Radiology at

This is interesting. So it still would be advantageous to do an audition rotation, if possible, at the desired future residency?

I mean, how often do Program Directors and the attending staff change at NMCSD, NMCP, and Bethesda? I have a sneaking suspicion by the time I come back from Diego Garcia or Guantanamo Bay (I'm a pessimist) the people I auditioned with would be gone.

 

[pgg]

This is interesting. So it still would be advantageous to do an audition rotation, if possible, at the desired future residency?

I mean, how often do Program Directors and the attending staff change at NMCSD, NMCP, and Bethesda? I have a sneaking suspicion by the time I come back from Diego Garcia or Guantanamo Bay (I'm a pessimist) the people I auditioned with would be gone.

Program directors tend to homestead a bit longer than the average staff. The ACGME people like to see some stability. My own program has had exactly two PDs since before I started (2006) and now. Also, at the big 3 medcens, senior people and subspecialists tend to homestead and not go to small hospitals. So, less turnover compared to small hospitals.

But you're right, most of the staff will probably have rotated.


I also have to add, you're probably overestimating the value of an audition rotation in terms of boosting your odds at the military GMESB. By that I mean most of the GMESB process is numbers and points. You can sabotage yourself by being awful and unlikeable on an audition rotation, but in truth it's hard for a med student to so impress people that it makes a difference when the numbers are on the table.

At least for the Navy, which pays attention to the numbers. I'm led to believe the Army and AF just take who they want and then make the numbers fit.

 

[Red Lobster Actual]

I also have to add, you're probably overestimating the value of an audition rotation

Thanks pgg

Alrighty! Off to GMO land and phone interviews for me then.

 

[Red Lobster Actual]

By that I mean most of the GMESB process is numbers and points.

Speaking of points. To qualify for the 3-4 Navy GMESB points allocated for published articles in peer reviewed journals, what are the specific requirements?

And I am talking about do I have to be first author? Must the research be done during med school/intern year? Does it have to be specific to the specialty you are applying for? etc.

Or is it more like, "Hey look, I'm in PubMed in the Journal of Such and Such," and I get 3 points?

 

[pgg]

Last I looked, I think it was
1 - one abstract or poster
2 - two of those
3 - one peer reviewed something
4 - two of those

Any specialty is ok. I got points for some abstracts I did in monkey lab in college.

 

[j4pac]

You need to find out who your specialty leader is and impress him/her. It is actually pretty important.