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[sdn2016]

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Hey guys I want to apply soon but I wanted to know if you guys had any recommendations of which schools on I should get rid of or possibly OOS friendly schools that I should add to my list. I was wondering if applying to 10-12 schools would be enough?

Illinois residency
oGPA: 3.79
sGPA: 3.74
DAT: TS- 22 PAT- 24 AA- 23
150 hours shadowing general dentist
200+ hours research
200+ hours various volunteering

UIC
SIU
Midwestern IL
Michigan
Detroit Mercy
Marquette
Iowa
Pitt
Rutgers
Creighton
VCU
Harvard

Let me know what you guys think. Thanks

 

[Soleus715]

your stats are really really good.. I think you'll be fine for the most part. Some might even say you can apply to a lot less, but I personally wouldn't risk applying to less than 10.
I would take out Rutgers though. Out of 1415 OOS applicants, 190 were interviewed and only 30 were accepted. that's a 2% acceptance rate.

 

[sdn2016]

I guess I missed that about Rutgers, thanks. Do you know of any other OOS friendly schools I can apply to?

 

[BeaverLover]

Harvard's class size ~35, you are required to present and defend a thesis to obtain your degree so keep that in mind if you're not sure about continuing research or not.

 

[Soleus715]

Here's the list of schools I applied to. These schools have high acceptance rates for OOS, and does not favor bordering states for the most part. Hope this helps

OOS Accepted/Applied (%)

1. UIC (in-state)
2. Midwestern - IL (in-state)
3. SIU (in-state)
4. Marquette (favors IL applicants)
5. Lecom (7.5%)
6. Midwestern- AZ (9.7%)
7. Temple (7.7%)
8. NYU (over 11.5%)
9. Virginia (7.7%)
10. Iowa (9.5%)
11. Case Western (9.6%)
12. Louisville (7.2%)
13. Detroit Mercy (14.3%)
14. New England (9.3%)
15. Michigan (6.3%)
16. Minnesota (12.5%, longest secondary app you'll ever ever ever do)
17. Columbia (7.8%)
18. Penn (N/A, 11% interviewed)
19. Pittsburgh (N/A, 18.7% interviewed)
20. Ohio (8.2%)
21. Tufts (9.8%)
22. USC ( ~5%)
23. Western ( ~5%)
24. Maryland (5% OOS, 10% including neighboring states)
25. Creighton (7%)

 

[gsquared]

what are your stats soleus?

 

[Soleus715]

what are your stats soleus?

3.08 GPA 🙁 and DAT: 23 AA/ 23 TS/ 24 PAT/ 24 RC

 

[shaidester]

Here's the list of schools I applied to. These schools have high acceptance rates for OOS, and does not favor bordering states for the most part. Hope this helps

OOS Accepted/Applied (%)

1. UIC (in-state)
2. Midwestern - IL (in-state)
3. SIU (in-state)
4. Marquette (favors IL applicants)
5. Lecom (7.5%)
6. Midwestern- AZ (9.7%)
7. Temple (7.7%)
8. NYU (over 11.5%)
9. Virginia (7.7%)
10. Iowa (9.5%)
11. Case Western (9.6%)
12. Louisville (7.2%)
13. Detroit Mercy (14.3%)
14. New England (9.3%)
15. Michigan (6.3%)
16. Minnesota (12.5%, longest secondary app you'll ever ever ever do)
17. Columbia (7.8%)
18. Penn (N/A, 11% interviewed)
19. Pittsburgh (N/A, 18.7% interviewed)
20. Ohio (8.2%)
21. Tufts (9.8%)
22. USC ( ~5%)
23. Western ( ~5%)
24. Maryland (10%)
25. Creighton (7%)

I remember reading the Maryland statistics on ADEA and it looked like they did favor the neighboring states quite a bit. A lot of OOS acceptances came from VA, NY, and a few others.

 

[Soleus715]

You're right.. about half the seats went to those states. It's probably closer to 5% for the OOS states. Thanks for the info, I completely missed that

 

[gsquared]

I see. And are your pulling the school stats from the ADEA 2014 guide?

 

[Soleus715]

I'm using this year's guide. I'm glad I got it, although this online version is really annoying to use. I should have gotten the physical copy 🙁

 

[sdn2016]

Thanks for the list Soleus. A lot of those schools are just too expensive so I added just Temple and Case Western to my list.
So right now I have:

UIC
SIU
Midwestern IL
Michigan
Detroit Mercy
Marquette
Iowa
Pitt
Creighton
VCU
Harvard
Temple
Case Western

 

[gsquared]

Harvard=stat match, but kinda research heavy. That what you want to go into?

 

[sdn2016]

I heard their residency percentages are higher after graduation? I don't know if that is true. How do we find out about graduates that went into specialties for each school?

 

[ajj70]

I heard their residency percentages are higher after graduation? I don't know if that is true. How do we find out about graduates that went into specialties for each school?

Harvard has a high residency acceptance because more students apply for residencies. That is not a reason to apply if that is your end goal. You can get accepted out of any dental school. If you want to go to Harvard and do research, etc. , great, but don't apply if you think it's your only chance to get into a residency.

 

[cotoncub]

Harvard has a high residency acceptance because more students apply for residencies. That is not a reason to apply if that is your end goal. You can get accepted out of any dental school. If you want to go to Harvard and do research, etc. , great, but don't apply if you think it's your only chance to get into a residency.

Exactly. Most people will practice general dentistry and of that I feel like more than half go straight into practice. The only information that would matter is applied/accepted stats for residencies at the school in question. I don't even know if that info is available/exists.

 

[Tom_Ato]

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/advice-for-new-applicants.1132380/#post-16416157

 

[dds2b219]

Add Columbia, upenn, UCSF will love the research! Great stats! Good luck!

 

[sdn2016]

Add Columbia, upenn, UCSF will love the research! Great stats! Good luck!

Thanks for the help. I looked at Columbia and Penn but they are just too expensive for me. Also UCSF is not that OOS friendly.

 

[gsquared]

Midwestern might be OOS friendly, but it is pretty expensive as well...

 

[sdn2016]

I'm applying to Midwestern because it is in-state.

 

[shaidester]

I'm applying to Midwestern because it is in-state.

Isn't it private though?

 

[syedj94]

If you're from UIC, you have the highest chance of getting into UIC.

 

[Lock_Jaw]

I'll second maryland being oos friendly. I was offered an interview, but they wouldn't allow me to reschedule it, so I never went. I would remove rutgers, look into Pitt and Penn, Case, and Louisville. I interviewed at Case, Louisville, UDM, Marquette, OSU, UM. Of which I would say all but OSU was oos friendly, especially UDM, Case, and Louisville.

 

[sdn2016]

Isn't it private though?

It is but it is close to home so I am applying out of convenience.

If you're from UIC, you have the highest chance of getting into UIC.

Unfortunately I don't go to UIC.

I'll second maryland being oos friendly. I was offered an interview, but they wouldn't allow me to reschedule it, so I never went. I would remove rutgers, look into Pitt and Penn, Case, and Louisville. I interviewed at Case, Louisville, UDM, Marquette, OSU, UM. Of which I would say all but OSU was oos friendly, especially UDM, Case, and Louisville.

I removed Rutgers and added Case Western but I'm not feeling Penn and Louisville because they are going to be pretty expensive.

 

[Lock_Jaw]

Louisville is cheaper than Case, also a much nicer school from my experience, both were great, just Louisville had everything new. It was the nicest of all the ones I visited.

 

[dds2b219]

Be careful when you're looking at prices... I thought going to my state school was cheap vs. other schools since tuition was only 40k a year, but turns out all the costs are about 70k+. Just make sure you look at all costs when comparing schools.