New program at Case DMD-MD

[drtre1]

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Has anyone heard of this program? Web site says it is scheduled to start in July of 2007.
My question is WHY????
This is not an OMS program... just a general dentist who is also licensed to practice medicine?????
http://dental.case.edu/dmdmd/

 

[Starby]

I think it sounds cool🙂
If you're interested, you could really practice *whole-person health*, and no need for medical &/or dental referrals! ...Or it could also be a way to keep your options open--facilitating easy career switch down the road...? Wish my school had that program.

 

[Jdreb]

I am really interested in this program. I was wondering if anyone else is applying for this in the 2008 cycle? Also, since it is starting in July 2007, does this mean that the first cycle of applications will be 2008?

Thanks!

Jdreb

 

[Tooth]

I don't think this program is getting a lot of attention but it should. I've heard of dentists in small communities who are the town doctor, dentist, vetrinarian, everything. From what I hear, they rake it in. Maybe this kind of program would be good for people who want to practice in the boonies.

 

[toofache32]

This has been tried before at Kentucky and somewhere else I can't remember. It was dropped after 4-5 years because of little interest and little practicality.

If you want a medical license, you still have to do at least one year of medical residency after you graduate. And one year won't get you much....it especially won't get you board-eligibility in any specialty (which are a minimum of 3 years of residency).

 

[groundhog]

Doc Baker (Vet) Little House on the Prarie community health care provider.

On a serious note: This concept might not be so easily implemented once state medical and dental boards get involved. Heck, in some states within the dental community alone, specialists and GP's are constantly at each others throats in trying to influence the outcomes of regulations adopted by dental boards. Think of what may happen if the same struggle rises to the level of dental vs medical? Special interest politics can be a real shoot out.

 

[ItsGavinC]

I think it sounds cool🙂
If you're interested, you could really practice *whole-person health*, and no need for medical &/or dental referrals! .

IMO that is ridiculous. It's impossible to practice whole-person health. It's not feasable from a financial standpoint, or from a time standpoint. Futher, I'd argue that a jack of all trades is a master of nothing.

 

[drtre1]

So the basic idea is that a person comes in for their yearly, and gets both medical and dental in one shot??
What dentist wants to waste their time doing annual physicals, their time can be better spent actually making money by doing procedures!!!!

 

[Jdreb]

So there isn't anyone interested in this program?

 

[coolraz]

IMO that is ridiculous. It's impossible to practice whole-person health. It's not feasable from a financial standpoint, or from a time standpoint. Futher, I'd argue that a jack of all trades is a master of nothing.

Gavin, are you going to specialize you overachiever ; )

 

[Dr. Dai Phan]

I don't think it is going to go through.... DP

 

[S Files]

I don't think it is going to go through.... DP

My younger brother (yes, i always get a good chuckle when SDN'ers say "my friend" or "my brother," but in this case it is true!!!) who thinks he wants to be an oral surgeon even though he's a senior in college emailed the admissions office at the Case med and dent schools and they both emailed him back encouraging his application and said the first class will matriculate in 2007. Yes 2007. DP with all due respect i'd take the AdCom Directors word over yours.....unless you have some hot gossip about this 🙂

My bro said the pre-whatever advisors at his college are getting a lot of interest about this. Interestingly, his advisor told him most pre-meds want to do med ONLY if they could get into derm, ophtho (or any of the "lifestyle" specialties) - otherwise they'd want to do dentistry. An interesting shift in the so-called health care hierarchy voiced by advisors. So it could attract that crowd that would do this 5 yrs, do the 1 yr gen surgery, then apply to match for med and dent specialties, throw it all in the air and see what happens..

Obviously the other crowd that it's attracting is the OMFS gunners.

My opinion is Case is trying to attract 2 types of ppl:
1. Researchers who can pursue the systemic inter-relationships bridging dent and med. (even though a DDS/PhD could do this better) I guess in the public's eye and perhaps some funding agencies eye the DDS/MD would add credibility. (there is a question on the application about such an interest)
2. Rural types - even though this is not the best way to make money, is not very efficient, perhaps some people would like to practice this way - even though it's a very long haul. Would have to do family med, gpr, etc. His advisor gave him an article about rural New Hampshire MD's who tried to start a program about learning how to take out mobile teeth b/c no dentists were available.

 

[USAF_Dentman]

Yeah, that's what I would do..Get a DDS/MD, then see if I get into something like Derm, RAD, Rad/onc; If not I would do dentistry and still have an MD..


Sounds cool...

 

[groundhog]

IMO that is ridiculous. It's impossible to practice whole-person health. It's not feasable from a financial standpoint, or from a time standpoint. Futher, I'd argue that a jack of all trades is a master of nothing.

I agree.

Renaissance man health care providers were viable back in the days when known medical science (pseudo-science?) proposed that many illnesses could be diagnosed by the color and smell of a patient's various bodily fluids. Today, the breadth and geometric expansion of medical science is a compelling arguement for greater specialization of providers within the health care arena.

 

[Mainer in Exile]

I think it would pretty damn cool if, for example, some FPs working in rural areas could treat basic dental problems. Right now, their only option is to give antibiotics and narcotics until their patient can get to a dentist. If you know anything about the shortage of health care providers in really rural areas (ESPECIALLY dentists), this is a big deal. It could really ease a lot of misery, regardless of whether or not it is "efficient". Now, would it make sense for these people to do be doing all kinds of C&B, endo, etc? No. But they might very well be able to treat some serious and unfortunately common dental problems, before the patient ends up in a hospital on IV antibiotics. I actually thought about the idea of some shortened type of dental training for primary care docs a couple of years ago, and when I mentioned it to a couple of people, they said the ADA would probably never allow such a thing to happen. I guess this circumvents the whole thing by having the student actually earn both degrees? Kind of innovative.

 

[BuckyBoy_DDS]

I think it would pretty damn cool if, for example, some FPs working in rural areas could treat basic dental problems. Right now, their only option is to give antibiotics and narcotics until their patient can get to a dentist. If you know anything about the shortage of health care providers in really rural areas (ESPECIALLY dentists), this is a big deal. It could really ease a lot of misery, regardless of whether or not it is "efficient". Now, would it make sense for these people to do be doing all kinds of C&B, endo, etc? No. But they might very well be able to treat some serious and unfortunately common dental problems, before the patient ends up in a hospital on IV antibiotics. I actually thought about the idea of some shortened type of dental training for primary care docs a couple of years ago, and when I mentioned it to a couple of people, they said the ADA would probably never allow such a thing to happen. I guess this circumvents the whole thing by having the student actually earn both degrees? Kind of innovative.

Yeah but I doubt many people in this program will ever go into rural health care..

 

[eric275]

In a town 30 miles from where I lived in Oregon there was a DDS/MD that attended both schools seperatly. He practiced dentistry three days a week and family practice medicine two days a week, he seemed to be pretty happy.