New Programs

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Before anyone replies with sarcastic comments, the following do NOT have new residencies planned:

IN N Out Burger
Ruby Tuesdays
TGIF
Bennigan's
Outback
Pizzaria UNOs
Culver's
McDonald's
Burger King

Now maybe some other university programs may have some in the future, but there are no restaurant-franchise planned residencies in the near works. Hopefully someone will have some academically based programs popping up.

Q
 
DrQuinn said:
Before anyone replies with sarcastic comments, the following do NOT have new residencies planned:

IN N Out Burger
Ruby Tuesdays
TGIF
Bennigan's
Outback
Pizzaria UNOs
Culver's
McDonald's
Burger King

Now maybe some other university programs may have some in the future, but there are no restaurant-franchise planned residencies in the near works. Hopefully someone will have some academically based programs popping up.

Q
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Yeah, but that new Chick-Fil-A residency is gonna be pretty tough.

/end distracting post by socute
 
There have been long standing rumors of a program in Miami and possibly one in Charleston, SC. I dont know much about these.

I can say that there may be a new residency in Arizona by 2009 but nothing is certain as of yet.
 
Heard rumors Baylor Houston and Methodist San Jacinto have applied and are awaiting approval.
 
FoughtFyr said:
Madison WI is in the works, may be taking a class in 2007...

- H
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Really?
[WilcoWorld looks about the forum with shifty eyes wondering who else might want an attendingship in close proximity to the Terrace & Dotty Dumpling's Dowry (best hamburgers ANYWHERE)]
 
palms west hospital in west palm beach, fl in the maybe category.
 
A new osteopathic residency is slated for 2008 in Johnstown, PA. I think they have a regional Level I trauma center, conemaugh I believe is the spelling...
 
Bent Aub said:
How

Really? That can't be, Ken Mattox is still alive, and I didn't think we would get one except over his dead body.

However, I did make an appeal to my good buddy Chuck to call up the administration and intimidate them a bit. Looks like he came through for me.
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The reason Baylor is initiating an EM residency is b/c their arch enemy is starting one. Methodist is trying to get the city to approve for another level 1 trauma center at their San Jacinto hospital. San Jacinto only has a FM residency. They are trying to start up an EM residency in anticipation of this change. It's one of those "whatever you do I can do better" between the two previously partnered institutions. BTW, Ken Mattox is an a-hole.
 
New programs approved this year:

Corpus Christi
Galveston
University of Wisconsin (Madison)
 
Snoopy said:
New programs approved this year:

Corpus Christi
Galveston
University of Wisconsin (Madison)
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Will the Corpus Christi program be MD or DO?
 
hyperbaric said:
Will the Corpus Christi program be MD or DO?
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Heard from a friend in the FM program down there that the EM program is having some issues. They were denied accredidation two years in a row until this year due to staffing and logistic issues. They are still not fully staff with academic ER physicians and are facing some financial problems.

I do not know anything about the UTMB program. Is it in Austin or Galveston?
 
I searched the internet for the UTMB program...but did not find anything. Then I heard a rumor it was going to be filled by upper level Family Practice residents or something (unsure if this is actually true)......not even sure if they are taking pg1s this year.....anyone have any better info?
 
I believe this is the UTMB Galveston program after asking around. PD name is Brian Zachariah. My significant other is doing EM so I'm invested. I doubt that a newly developed program would take strictly residents from the FM program. This would leave the FM program short handed and not courteous. Also, they are bound to take PGY 1s. It's hard to find PGY 2s willing to transfer to Galveston. BTW, previous FM training may not count toward EM training. In any case, newly developed programs are so hard to judge. Why go to a new program when there are so many positions to apply to at well established institutions. Like it or not it does matter where you trained when applying for jobs later on. Finally, who the heck want to live in Corpus Christi, Galveston, or Madison? These are such undesirable locations. Now if only the UTMB program was in Austin!:laugh:
 
Was told this morning that UTMB Galveston and Corpus Christi programs initial approval are on hold until Feb 2007 due to "minor" details. Both will miss the match this yr.

Regarding Baylor EM - you're right that they do not have any EM faculty on board yet; however with all the financial contraints at Ben Taub they cannot afford to hire board certified EM faculty until they hear something back from the ACGME first.
 
suguha said:
Was told this morning that UTMB Galveston and Corpus Christi programs initial approval are on hold until Feb 2007 due to "minor" details. Both will miss the match this yr.

Regarding Baylor EM - you're right that they do not have any EM faculty on board yet; however with all the financial contraints at Ben Taub they cannot afford to hire board certified EM faculty until they hear something back from the ACGME first.
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I attend UTMB and I've heard that the ER program has been in the works for years. And always it's just a rumor. I'm gonna have to hunt this Zachariah guy down and find out more. And you are right, who wants to live in Galveston anyway? I can't wait to leave, but it is a good teaching hospital. We get a nice variety of patients because we have a high population of lower socio-economic patients with all kinds of problems who travel sometimes accross Texas to come to UTMB since we have contracts with a lot of Texas. And people know, that if you don't have insurance, got to UTMB. Not to mention the inmates. Now the ER I hear can be slow at times, well I assume because of location. But we'll see.
 
chocomorsel said:
I attend UTMB and I've heard that the ER program has been in the works for years. And always it's just a rumor. I'm gonna have to hunt this Zachariah guy down and find out more. And you are right, who wants to live in Galveston anyway? I can't wait to leave, but it is a good teaching hospital. We get a nice variety of patients because we have a high population of lower socio-economic patients with all kinds of problems who travel sometimes accross Texas to come to UTMB since we have contracts with a lot of Texas. And people know, that if you don't have insurance, got to UTMB. Not to mention the inmates. Now the ER I hear can be slow at times, well I assume because of location. But we'll see.
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I personally think that an EM program is better served in Austin than Galveston. You can attract a lot more applicants to Austin than Galveston and the clinical volume at Brackenridge is higher and more diverse. The EM department would also be more independent and autonomous from the surgery department in Austin.
 
UCSF will finally have a program for next year's match (2008). It will be a 1-4 format with an emphasis on research.
 
Corpus contacted me today, they sent a word doc with sort of an outline of their curriculum and pay/benefits, and an official letter detailing their application and acceptance process. All materials must be in by Nov 6, interviews will be the last half of Nov, and acceptances dolled out in mid december.
 
ElZorro said:
Corpus contacted me today, they sent a word doc with sort of an outline of their curriculum and pay/benefits, and an official letter detailing their application and acceptance process. All materials must be in by Nov 6, interviews will be the last half of Nov, and acceptances dolled out in mid december.
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Corpus Christi, Texas? I just want to be sure.

Sending you a PM.
 
Just talked to my med school about it. Apparently if I want to apply, I need to have all my letter writers send my lors there. Even though my dean's office has a copies for the eras application; they are not allowed to send out those....geeze.....what a headache.....
 
here's a thought....are we even allowed to apply to programs that are not in the match????

I remember signing my life away recently.....to apply to be in the match....
 
c.bear said:
here's a thought....are we even allowed to apply to programs that are not in the match????

I remember signing my life away recently.....to apply to be in the match....
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Most of the new programs are in the match but are not using ERAS. So, you apply there on paper, but the rest goes just like the match.

- H
 
From my Corpus letter:

"Due to the timing of this accreditation we will not be participating in the National Residency Match Program (NRMP) this year. "

I guess I need to reread the NRMP rules/restrictions. I just don't wanna be kicked out of the regular match or something. At the same time, I am sure my school would have warned me....
 
c.bear said:
From my Corpus letter:

"Due to the timing of this accreditation we will not be participating in the National Residency Match Program (NRMP) this year. "

I guess I need to reread the NRMP rules/restrictions. I just don't wanna be kicked out of the regular match or something. At the same time, I am sure my school would have warned me....
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Wow. My year they all made it into the match. I believe, but check the rules, that you can withdraw from the match prior to the day ROLs are due without violating. Once the ROL is in that is a commitment to abide by the match results. So I think you could accept a position in December or January and "safely" withdraw, but not once the ROLs are in.

- H
 
Wahoo said:
UCSF will finally have a program for next year's match (2008). It will be a 1-4 format with an emphasis on research.
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Wahoo, is this info on a website somewhere? How did you find out about it?
 
FoughtFyr said:
Wow. My year they all made it into the match. I believe, but check the rules, that you can withdraw from the match prior to the day ROLs are due without violating. Once the ROL is in that is a commitment to abide by the match results. So I think you could accept a position in December or January and "safely" withdraw, but not once the ROLs are in.

- H
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Thanks...apparently they interview in November and make offers in December. I just need to check the rules out because I don't wanna shoot myself in the foot (get kicked out of the match)......maybe this weekend I will do the research needed...just hate reading the legal mumbo jumbo I need to....
 
As entertaining as this discussion has been here is the truth regarding the TX EM programs. UTMB did not get approved for this year, are hoping for accreditation by february, too late for the match though. Brian Zachariah is the ER chairman not the program director, Jerry Baskerville previously of Scott and White is the residency director. By the way, the ED volume at UTMB is almost 90,000 per year, Brac. is no where close to that. On to Corpus, they were approved, accepting applications outside the match, lots of work though, not sure it's worth it for a new program, probably better off going to an existing one. San Jacinto Methodist is not a trauma center, merely a small community hospital which would be a poor choice for an EM residency, certainly not anywhere close to achieving Level One or even Two status. Methodist downtown has more potential but that would put a third Level One on the block, probably not the demand for it. Bring on the entertainment.:laugh:
 
In da know said:
As entertaining as this discussion has been here is the truth regarding the TX EM programs. UTMB did not get approved for this year, are hoping for accreditation by february, too late for the match though. Brian Zachariah is the ER chairman not the program director, Jerry Baskerville previously of Scott and White is the residency director. By the way, the ED volume at UTMB is almost 90,000 per year, Brac. is no where close to that. On to Corpus, they were approved, accepting applications outside the match, lots of work though, not sure it's worth it for a new program, probably better off going to an existing one. San Jacinto Methodist is not a trauma center, merely a small community hospital which would be a poor choice for an EM residency, certainly not anywhere close to achieving Level One or even Two status. Methodist downtown has more potential but that would put a third Level One on the block, probably not the demand for it. Bring on the entertainment.:laugh:
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You failed to address Baylor. Also, could you elaborate on Corpus? I'm interested to hear since you are 'In da know'.
 
Baylor could go in with Ben Taub as their primary teaching facility for an EM program. The issue there would be that the ED at Ben Taub is surgery driven, which would require a major revision to place an EM residency. I suspect this same issue is part of what hurt UTMB. It would be difficult for them to go in with Methodist or St. Lukes as their primary facility. The program at Corpus should be an interesting one to watch, i think after their first year it should begin to blossom, time will tell. They are a sufficent distance from San Antonio and Houston that they essentially stand on their own and provide a substantial referal base, something else that probably hurt UTMB. They also have a flight program, something UTMB does not have but Hermann has a very busy one that occasionally serves UTMB. Things against them, they are a Level 3 facility, but a strong one, pediatrics are primarily treated at Driscoll instead, but rotations there are possible. It's in Corpus Christi, not a large teaching facility, may be bad or good for residents. They seem to have an affiliation with Texas A&M HSC which may serve as their major referal base for residents....Time will tell. Any other specific questions?
 
In da know said:
As entertaining as this discussion has been here is the truth regarding the TX EM programs. UTMB did not get approved for this year, are hoping for accreditation by february, too late for the match though. Brian Zachariah is the ER chairman not the program director, Jerry Baskerville previously of Scott and White is the residency director. By the way, the ED volume at UTMB is almost 90,000 per year, Brac. is no where close to that. On to Corpus, they were approved, accepting applications outside the match, lots of work though, not sure it's worth it for a new program, probably better off going to an existing one. San Jacinto Methodist is not a trauma center, merely a small community hospital which would be a poor choice for an EM residency, certainly not anywhere close to achieving Level One or even Two status. Methodist downtown has more potential but that would put a third Level One on the block, probably not the demand for it. Bring on the entertainment.:laugh:
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I merely wrote what I heard. Some are rumors, some are true - as in the case with new programs. Under the impression Zachariah is both chairman and director at UTMB. Anyway, ED volume at Brack is more diverse and acute than UTMB. Regarding Methodist, they want to get a level one designation. However, putting a third level one trauma center in the med center is absurd. San Jacinto seems most logical in terms of location. They no question have the capacity to be the third level one trauma center in Houston.
 
There was a study done by HGAC that determined the location that would serve the most people and was most of in need of a Level 1 was northeast houston...Baytown etc. If that does go through it will be 10 years from now before they start accepting residents. The problem with that area is the low payor mix poorly supports medical care. Should be interesting to see though.
 
In da know said:
Baylor could go in with Ben Taub as their primary teaching facility for an EM program. The issue there would be that the ED at Ben Taub is surgery driven, which would require a major revision to place an EM residency. I suspect this same issue is part of what hurt UTMB. It would be difficult for them to go in with Methodist or St. Lukes as their primary facility. The program at Corpus should be an interesting one to watch, i think after their first year it should begin to blossom, time will tell. They are a sufficent distance from San Antonio and Houston that they essentially stand on their own and provide a substantial referal base, something else that probably hurt UTMB. They also have a flight program, something UTMB does not have but Hermann has a very busy one that occasionally serves UTMB. Things against them, they are a Level 3 facility, but a strong one, pediatrics are primarily treated at Driscoll instead, but rotations there are possible. It's in Corpus Christi, not a large teaching facility, may be bad or good for residents. They seem to have an affiliation with Texas A&M HSC which may serve as their major referal base for residents....Time will tell. Any other specific questions?
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Is the program in Corpus at Spohn or Bay? I'm guessing Spohn...
 
The CC program will be at Spohn.

Baylor will never have an EM residency as long as Mattox is alive...

This is the first I have heard of San Jac Methodist getting a program. It is a small community hospital that would need a big expansion to land level 1 designation. Methodist in the Medical Center has hired MANY trauma surgeons and orthopods from Hermann in the past year, leading me to believe something is in the works at one of their facilities. However, this would take more than a few years to pull off.

Galveston is something I have been hearing about for several years, but have not seen any big movement on.

UT-Houston is expanding the program to 14-16 residents for either the 2007-08 or 2008-09 match, when residents begin rotating at LBJ Hospital. I anticipate this happening sooner rather than later, as the UTH EM Dept Chair, Dr. King, is now Chief of Staff at LBJ. On a related note, I anticipate LBJ being much more highly considered as the next Level 1 instead of San Jacinto Methodist, since they already have a full complement of consulting services available there via the UTH reisdency programs.

Good luck to everyone applying this year!

-EM Junkie
UT-Houston EM R1
 
will CC be a 3 year or 4 year program.. and do they have application material online somewhere?
wish I had more info on the match vs. out-of-match guidelines to help out.. but I'll research that.
 
I apologize to all those who have PM'd me about corpus...I will PM you back today. It is a 3 year program based at Spohn hospital and has already received provisional accreditation. I honestly know nothing more about the program or the ED, I have never laid eyes on Spohn hospital nor do I know any faculty that will be there.
 
I was looking for info on the new CC, TX program and I saw their hospital's website but nothing about residents at all. Anyone know where to get info or a phone number to call about them?
 
Holy crap! This turned into the southeast TX EM discussion.

And on that note, how is the TCH ER regarded in the EM community? TCH hasn't acquired Level II trauma status, but we handle lots of medical codes. So I hope we're thought of as 'strong' - but I'm only guessing.

Eh?
 
I've been tied up on a strange schedule. The CC is going to be 3 years, though my understanding is there may be an attempt to start this jan. and give advanced credit....seems unlikely and illogical. It is based out of Christus Spohn, i think their only other residency is FP right now. Still working on contact information, maybe try calling the hospital. In regards to TCH, care is overall highly rated, trauma somewhat less due to the lack of Designation per DSHS, it also doesn't help when you don't have your own helipad, they can go to Hermann Childrens a Level 1 and walk into the ER off the pad. Still the high end paediatric hospital in the area.
 
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