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ok,so here's another way these guys are gonna make some money..anyone who has some to spare go right ahead!!!

NEW WEB-BASED SELF-ASSESSMENT SERVICE NOW AVAILABLE

The National Board of Medical Examiners(r) (NBME(r)) has introduced a new
web-based self-assessment program for basic science content for U.S. and
international medical students and graduates. The Comprehensive Basic
Science Self-Assessment (CBSSA) uses multiple-choice items based on
information typically covered during basic science medical education courses
in the United States. The content of the CBSSA items resembles the content
of those in Step 1 of the United States Medical Licensing Examination(tm)
(USMLE(tm)). Although the CBSSA is not intended to predict performance on
Step 1, individuals preparing to take Step 1 may find the CBSSA to be a
valuable tool.

The CBSSA is available via the Internet. Interested individuals can request,
pay for and take the assessment from their home computers. Users can choose
to take the assessment in a timed format or can complete the items at their
own pace. Participants will be provided with immediate feedback in the form
of performance profiles. These profiles will indicate the relative strengths
and weaknesses in general topic areas. The cost for each assessment is
US$45.

For more information, to view a sample assessment, or to purchase an
assessment, visit the NBME Self-Assessment web page at
http://www.nbme.org/sas

The NBME anticipates that a self-assessment for clinical science content
will be available in September 2003. The multiple-choice items presented in
the clinical science self-assessment will be based on information typically
covered during the clinical core clerkships in the United States and will
resemble the content of USMLE Step 2.
 
Has anyone taken these yet? and then Step I? how close are they in form and content?

even if you haven't taken step i, but have taken this exam, i'd be interested in your thoughts....wondering if it's worth shelling out more for this.....😕
 
there are two forms that you can sign up for on the website. are they the same or are they different?
 
I took the free beta version of this test they offered a couple of weeks ago. Assuming it's the same test, I wouldn't waste my money. It's also a waste of time because it doesn't tell you the correct answers or even how many you missed. All you get at the end is a so-called performance review where it shows you how you did by subject (basically just rates you on a scale of "below average", "borderline", "above average", etc). Very frustrating! I'm angry that I wasted my time doing the beta test when I should have been studying harder for my Pharm shelf!
Save your money for QBank instead.
 
Has anyone else taken either of these 2 NBME exams? What did you think? Should one just stick to QBANK and other question sources? Since the questions are made by NBME, I am wondering how similar they will be to the actual USMLE. So, they dont even give you the correct answers after you finish the exam? That would not be helpful.
Any other thoughts?
 
i just took the asessment today- i got a 620. i have no idea what that means. they say they scale the test so that the average is 500 with an sd of 100. is this the 1st year they are offering it? what was the deal with that guy who said that the test is supposed to tell you your score within 5 pts? i don't know what to make of the results....any ideas? anyone take this exam and the boards or kaplan full lengh? any comments on correlations?
 
It is scaled 200-800 with mean=500 and standard deviation=100. Since 182 is passing on the real exam with mean=215 and SD=20 (approximately), then 182 is 1.65 standard deviations from the mean. For the NBME assessment, 335 would be the passing score (roughly) because it is 1.65 standard deviations from 500 on the 200-800 scale. I scored 350 and I'm getting about 55-60% on Qbank right now. Then again, I could be totally wrong. I would like to hear how other people's score compares with their Qbank score.
 
For those of you that just took it,
did they not tell you the correct answers after you finished? I personally think that if you can not view the explanations and see what you got wrong, it would not be good use of your time.....but, let us know if you think it was helpful, etc....
Thanks!
 
The NBME people never said you get to review your answers. I think the idea is to use the exam as a measuring-stick to see how well prepared you are for the real USMLE, not as just another study tool. Thats why it is exactly like the real deal...except you get your results immediately. You don't get to know the answers after you take the real USMLE. The value is in assessing how well you will do on the real exam. If you want "Q&A" with annotated answers, you should go to one of those commercial sources like Kaplan or NMS.
 
Originally posted by toofache32
I would like to hear how other people's score compares with their Qbank score.

It looks like we are both in the same (hopefully passing) range. I've taken 6 sets of 50 kaplan questions, and my scores have ranged from 44% to 66% with an average of 55% My self assessment score was 400. I'm taking the usmle on the 26th, and I think I'll take the other assessment about 4-5 days before the test.

I think this assessment was worth taking. The questions seem similar to shelf test questions, and also to Q bank, so I think it will be a good indicator of board performance. I'm sure they are saying it isn't a predictor in order to protect their butts.
 
one thing about this test is still confusing to me- do they get the mean of ppl taking the test at some random time- or are these scores of people taking unscored questions during the same exam?- obviously ppl would do much better if they were taking this assessment the day of the exam. what do you guys think? they say the average is of first time test takers from us med schools- but that seems a little ambiguous. i took the kaplan full length cd about 3 weeks ago- at the end of school- i had done neuro and half of behavioral- and got a 62%- if that helps our statistcal analysis at all.
 
KCRD-

I agree that the NBME's statement about not being a predictor for performance is just to protect them from people who barely pass the assessment, then don't pass the USMLE. I think the formal legal terminology is "C.Y.A."

My overall q-bank average is exactly 60% after about 1200 questions, with a range between 46% and 72%. My earlier scores averaged around 55% and know they average around 62%. I think it's interesting that my Qbank scores appear a little higer than yours, but that your NBME assessment is a half standard deviation higher than mine. But you haven't done as many Qbank questions, so maybe that average is not as valid. Then again, 360 Qbank questions is basically the same as 350 NBME questions.

One of my friends took it today and said his exam has VERY little anatomy (mainly those hand nerve lesions) and A LOT of endo stuff with all that dumb DAG, IP3, etc.
 
Did you guys take both 200 question exams or just one of them?

Thanks for all the info.! It is really helpful!
 
I did just one of them about a month ago when it was offered for free for the first however-many people signed up. I think it was free so they could test the software and make sure it worked across the internet. I plan on taking the second one this week to see if I have improved any. I'm taking the USMLE next Tuesday, June 10.
 
$45 for 200 questions. I did the math (I was a business major) and that's 22.5 cents per question. The NBME can go F. themselves for all I care. That's just a ridiculous amount of money to charge people, especially students with no income. I didn't really think that the NBME was a business out to make money, but apparently it is. Shame and woe to them. I'm boycotting (for now).
 
Yeah. No doubt the NBME will be making big bucks off this. Think about it: most students will pay the 90 bucks to take the test because they don't want to be at a disadvantage from others who will most likely be doing so... not to mention: what is some of the questions from this NBME practice test show up on the real exam. you'd kick yourself if you didn't take the tests.

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if in the future schools just pay the fees so that students can take themm
 
Actually, the NMBE is registered as a for-profit organization and they clearly violate anti-trust laws because they have a monopoly on the "medical licensing buisness." They proabably figured that since Kaplan Qbank is so popular they could cash in on the idea and offer some questions. I took the Beta-test version in April and I would NOT suggest anyone take it. I don't think the questions were very hard and my grade on it was very different from my grade on the Basic Science shelf. I think the exam is probably going to be more like the Basic Science shelf. Regardless, the NMBE blows!
 
Originally posted by yigit
$45 for 200 questions. I did the math (I was a business major) and that's 22.5 cents per question. The NBME can go F. themselves for all I care. That's just a ridiculous amount of money to charge people, especially students with no income. I didn't really think that the NBME was a business out to make money, but apparently it is. Shame and woe to them. I'm boycotting (for now).

You think this is bad, look at step 2b - $1000 test (excluding travel) and that's mandatory. At least this is merely an option. I still can't believe the class below me is gonna have to take 2b while I get off scot free.
 
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