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Would any previous recipients of the NHSC Scholarship please tell me what kind of credentials you have? I'm just wondering how competitive the scholarship is and what my chances are.

Please and thank you!!😀

 

[dentalWorks]

im interested in this as well.

 

[JLum]

bump, I would love to hear from those who received the scholarship.

 

[whodat4life]

Hey guys, I just posted a response on another thread. The NHSC actually has VERY LITTLE to do with your "stats." I'll leave the link below to the other thread with an attachment I put up. But, let's think about this for a second.

Would a dentist with numbers like JLum (using him just as an example) be willing to spend the rest of his career doing public health or someone who still has decent numbers, but doesn't graduate at the top of his/her class? This is where it gets tricky...because they don't want someone who is just going to serve four-five years and then go off and specialize or go into private practice and never give them service anymore. They are looking for candidates that will spend a significant amount of time in their public health system.

Also, do you think someone who has struggled all of their lives to make ends meet, instead of letting mommy and daddy pickup the tab will be more likely to stay? One of the main driving factors of one going into public health is to try and go back and help those with whom you can "identify" most with. If you've never struggled to make ends meet, chances are you're not going to be as likely to have a soft spot in your heart and let public health be your passion. People that grow up in wealth need it A LOT more than those of us who've struggled to make ends meet. You can't miss what you've never had, right?

Now, I know this thread is going to rub some people the wrong way..and that's fine. I'm just simply stating my opinion on why they've set the system up like they have. Am I saying that people born with a silver spoon will never be kind and give of their time? Absolutely not. I've seen some of the most successful docs (from "well-to-do" families) around my home city go out and do TONS of charity work. But looking at this from their viewpoint, and I'm sure it's been statistically proven by someone, people coming from struggle/poverty are far more likely to stay and help those under the conditions which they grew up in for a longer period of time. Their "investment" in you will benefit them more.

Hope this helps!

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=834786

 

[TheOMSProject]

Would a dentist with numbers like JLum (using him just as an example) be willing to spend the rest of his career doing public health or someone who still has decent numbers, but doesn't graduate at the top of his/her class?

You might want to be more considerate and thoughtful before you post. This will clearly offend other applicants.

The site clearly says that students commit to serve 2 to 4 years in an underserved health professional shortage area.

 

[whodat4life]

You might want to be more considerate and thoughtful before you post. This will clearly offend other applicants.

The site clearly says that students commit to serve 2 to 4 years in an underserved health professional shortage area.

I didn't consider it to be disrespectful at all, I was actually commending him on his high scores, hence...they may think you'll go on to only do the minimum time and then go specialize or go into private practice....

I know well what the site says, and I also know someone who works for the NHSC. They favor people they think will stay in public health for the remainder of their careers, it is what it is. How is stating facts being "inconsiderate?"

For the record, I fall under the EFN, disadvantaged background label...so it would make no sense for me to take a strike at someone else who does as well.

 

[jeffity]

It makes sense that they would attempt to accept those who will go beyond the 2- or 4-year mark. Two/Four money is an incentive. Perhaps they prefer those who see it as a bonus to a direction they were going to take to begin with. It's better to have people serving those populations who want to be there rather than those who hate being there but stick it out for just the money and then split.

That being said, I'm sure numbers fit into the equation.

 

[TheOMSProject]

I didn't consider it to be disrespectful at all, I was actually commending him on his high scores, hence...they may think you'll go on to only do the minimum time and then go specialize or go into private practice....

I know well what the site says, and I also know someone who works for the NHSC. They favor people they think will stay in public health for the remainder of their careers, it is what it is. How is stating facts being "inconsiderate?"

For the record, I fall under the EFN, disadvantaged background label...so it would make no sense for me to take a strike at someone else who does as well.

Because there are applicants who come from disadvantaged backgrounds, love public health, and still manage to get good grades. Just because an applicant has outstanding numbers doesn't mean she/he should be disqualified from getting the scholarship.

The subtle notion that only "average applicants" merit the NHSC scholarship is simply outrageous. That's how I felt when I read your post. If I'm wrong, I do apologize.

 

[JLum]

Hey guys, I just posted a response on another thread. The NHSC actually has VERY LITTLE to do with your "stats." I'll leave the link below to the other thread with an attachment I put up. But, let's think about this for a second.

Would a dentist with numbers like JLum (using him just as an example) be willing to spend the rest of his career doing public health or someone who still has decent numbers, but doesn't graduate at the top of his/her class? This is where it gets tricky...because they don't want someone who is just going to serve four-five years and then go off and specialize or go into private practice and never give them service anymore. They are looking for candidates that will spend a significant amount of time in their public health system.

Also, do you think someone who has struggled all of their lives to make ends meet, instead of letting mommy and daddy pickup the tab will be more likely to stay? One of the main driving factors of one going into public health is to try and go back and help those with whom you can "identify" most with. If you've never struggled to make ends meet, chances are you're not going to be as likely to have a soft spot in your heart and let public health be your passion. People that grow up in wealth need it A LOT more than those of us who've struggled to make ends meet. You can't miss what you've never had, right?

Now, I know this thread is going to rub some people the wrong way..and that's fine. I'm just simply stating my opinion on why they've set the system up like they have. Am I saying that people born with a silver spoon will never be kind and give of their time? Absolutely not. I've seen some of the most successful docs (from "well-to-do" families) around my home city go out and do TONS of charity work. But looking at this from their viewpoint, and I'm sure it's been statistically proven by someone, people coming from struggle/poverty are far more likely to stay and help those under the conditions which they grew up in for a longer period of time. Their "investment" in you will benefit them more.

Hope this helps!

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=834786

Thanks...? I think he meant no harm with the above comment. Although, it certainly reads that high stats somehow correlate with a well-to-do upbringing. Certainly not the case in my life and numerous others.

On a side note, I believe you are wrong on selection process. See pg. 8 of the document you attached. Selection process clearly includes academic performance, followed by a passion to work in communities with great need.

Funding priorities, including EFN and disadvantaged backgrounds, are only considered after an applicant has been deemed "eligible and qualified"

Perhaps my interpretation is off.

 

[whodat4life]

Because there are applicants who come from disadvantaged backgrounds, love public health, and still manage to get good grades. Just because an applicant has outstanding numbers doesn't mean she/he should be disqualified from getting the scholarship.

The subtle notion that only "average applicants" merit the NHSC scholarship is simply outrageous. That's how I felt when I read your post. If I'm wrong, I do apologize.

No, you took my post completely wrong. I didn't mean there was anything wrong with having excellent numbers, but I was trying to indicate that they want people who will stay with them, that's all.


My post was a little misleading because it sounds like I meant all people with excellent grades/DAT scores come from a silver spoon lol. That's not what I meant. Oh well, you guys get what I'm saying. Basically, the less your parents make, the more underrepresented your ethnic group is, and the more disadvantaged of a background you come from...the better your chances. Which, IMO...is the way it should be (outside of the ethnicity preference, but that's purely my opinion).

 

[whodat4life]

Thanks...? I think he meant no harm with the above comment. Although, it certainly reads that high stats somehow correlate with a well-to-do upbringing. Certainly not the case in my life and numerous others.

On a side note, I believe you are wrong on selection process. See pg. 8 of the document you attached. Selection process clearly includes academic performance, followed by a passion to work in communities with great need.

Funding priorities, including EFN and disadvantaged backgrounds, are only considered after an applicant has been deemed "eligible and qualified"

Perhaps my interpretation is off.

haha, SORRY it reads like that...I promise I didn't mean it that way.

 

[whodat4life]

It makes sense that they would attempt to accept those who will go beyond the 2- or 4-year mark. Two/Four money is an incentive. Perhaps they prefer those who see it as a bonus to a direction they were going to take to begin with. It's better to have people serving those populations who want to be there rather than those who hate being there but stick it out for just the money and then split.

That being said, I'm sure numbers fit into the equation.

This is exactly what I was TRYING to say, thanks.

 

[TheOMSProject]

No, you took my post completely wrong. I didn't mean there was anything wrong with having excellent numbers, but I was trying to indicate that they want people who will stay with them, that's all.


My post was a little misleading because it sounds like I meant all people with excellent grades/DAT scores come from a silver spoon lol. That's not what I meant. Oh well, you guys get what I'm saying. Basically, the less your parents make, the more underrepresented your ethnic group is, and the more disadvantaged of a background you come from...the better your chances. Which, IMO...is the way it should be (outside of the ethnicity preference, but that's purely my opinion).

Point taken. My fault.

 

[whodat4life]

Point taken. My fault.

It's cool man, I just wanted to make sure you knew what I really meant. 🙂