NJMS or Einstein?

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  1. Doctor P

    Doctor P Junior Member

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    I am currently wait-listed at Albert Einstein...and I am currently accepted and going to NJMS ....if I get off the wait-list at Einstein...which is likely... i dunno what I am gonna do. NJMS is cheaper. Einstein has a name and research. Both however place there students into real competitve residencies in the end though!!! What does everyone think?

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  3. BushBaby

    BushBaby Nipplelina

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    Do you know when Einstein's waitlist begins moving/how much movement they have? You might hold on to UMDNJ while keeping in touch with Einstein (regarding your waitlist status).....by early April I think you should know where you stand on their list and your chances of getting off the list.
     
  4. Doctor P

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    Einsteins list moves pretty quickly I heard....I fact I high percentage of their students/class are usually from the wait list....I am holding onto the NJMS offer....I just don't know if it would be worth it to go to Einstein over NJ!
     
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    I also got into both schools and I chose Einstein over NJMS. The students were more positive at Einstein, I prefer the curriculum, Einstein has housing, and the area is a little better.
     
  6. megkudos

    megkudos Senior Member

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    Hi:)

    That's a pretty tough call. Einstien was actually one of the schools I would have condsidered going to over NJMS. Luckily they made it easy for me and I got rejected from Einstien and accepted to NJ Med.

    For me it would have been weighing the cost vs. the quality of education. If the match rates and board scores are pretty similar, I think I'd go for the cheaper option in NJMS. When it comes down to it though, you'll probably get where you want to be at either school. Einstien is better but it's not like it's top 10 or something. These are just the thoughts off the top of my head, I can see your dillemna.

    I would look really deeply into the quality of the two educations. One thing I really like about NJMS is the clinical experience the students get. They even have a student run free clinic where first and second years get to treat patients. Just the nature of being in Newark seems to provide students with lots of hands on experience. I suppose you would get this at Einstien too though.

    Well good luck in your decision and make sure to let us know where you are headed! Maybe we'll be classmates :)
     
  7. Dr. Kermit

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    I'm leaning toward choosing Einstein over my state school, Temple. The only thing that would really sway me is a lot of scholarship $$ from Temple. For me, the overall cost at Temple is 41K (Tuition: 26K, Living: 15K) and Einstein is 46K (Tuition: 32K, Living: 14K). My parents are helping with the living aspect, so I'd like to save them money and take the rest of the burden on myself.

    I think the training at Einstein is superb. I have a friend who is about to graduate from Einstein and she said that her clinical years at Einstein were amazing. She started shadowing a doctor her first year, worked in a free clinic second year, and trained in both the Bronx and Manhattan. Jacobi is one of the largest public hospitals in NYC after Bellevue.

    They also have a lot of endowment $$ from NIH and other organizations. My friend was able to earn a MPH at Columbia tuition-free thanks to Einstein and then she also went abroad after her third year for two months. Einstein will pay for you to do practically anything, well within reason.

    I'm interested in doing my residency in NYC and eventually practicing there, so I'm choosing the more expensive private school over my state school. 40% of student at AE eventually train at one of their eight hospitals. 70% stay in NYC and the rest get residencies in top hospitals. You have to really try hard to do poorly during your clinical years and boards not to get one of your top 3 choices. Temple students tend to stay in the Philly or Pittsburgh area, and I think that my options would be limited. Those who do leave PA are like the top 10% of their class!

    Finally, Einstein is P/F, straight up. Second year, it's H/P/F and during your clinical years, they add on narrative evaluations. I also heard that since many of the residents were once AE students, you tend to be treated less poorly than at other schools!

    I could elucidate on the few negative aspects that I wish Einstein had such as the strong Orthodox influence (library and gym closed after sundown on Friday through Saturday), the lack of a bookstore, the non-existant social life around the Bronx, and the shared apartments for first and second years, but it's pretty trivial in the grand scheme of my decision. I also don't mind the area too much because I'll have a car. (Yes you have shotgun if you read this souljah) I'm bringing my car, so I'll be able to get out of the area and study, shop, or unwind.

    Good luck with your decision. Sorry I can't tell you more about NJ!
     
  8. souljah1

    souljah1 Attending

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    hehehe...

    Did someone say I had shotgun? <img border="0" alt="[Wowie]" title="" src="graemlins/wowie.gif" /> sweeeet! now for my two cents. I interviewed at both aecom and umdnj-rwj. aecom's curriculum is a lot better than jerz. (classtime, blocks, p/f, taught by mds and not phds, etc). clinically i dug both schools (i really appreciate rwj's commitment to community medicine and i also was impressed by aecom's devotion to early clinical exposure). Location...the bronx (yeah it was the home of j-lo and krs-one but other than that i guess they have good penne marinara). Piscataway/New Brunswick...kind of chill but kind of ill.

    It is up to the person. I think nationally aecom has a better reputation and this may help you if you want to get out of dodge after four years. It is all up to you.

    kermit and i will be listenin to ludacris' "roll-out" cruising around the bronx lookin for some action. :D
     

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