No interviews yet....anyone in the same boat?

[JosefStalin87]

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Ahh well I guess our shadowing experience was very different. My Physician allowed me to actually interact with the patients and himself during the routine check ups which I know is not common. I took a lot of notes and asked tons of questions before and after the treatment of patients. I think standing around in the corner silently and not interacting with the physician before or after the treatment can really halt you from building a personal relationship with the Physician. I admit in the beginning the doctor was annoyed by a lot of my questions but later down the road he actually thanked me for making a genuine effort in trying to learn and he probably made that clear in his LOR to med schools. Regardless, I'm sending you my personal statement so maybe you can compare it with yours and see how others have written their PS.

Flodhi, I don't really appreciate you PRETENDING to help me - your goal is to show off, gloat, and rub it in my face with your PS and 4 acceptances.

Yes, your PS about your friend's grueling death and intense fighting in Iraq will make anyone's eyes water -- but how is it suppose to help me improve MY application with MY experience listed above in the community? You want me to join the marines and to kill innocent civilians in foreign sovereign countries?

Do us a favor and don't come back to this thread.

 

[JosefStalin87]

That's odd, because they specifically state that they don't send rejections until the end of the season, if at all. "If you have not received an interview, there is no status update to report." Did they loathe you that much? 🙁

The 3 schools I mentioned (Emory, Drexel. MCW) all sent me rejection e-mails.

 

[sector9]

Flodhi, I don't really appreciate you PRETENDING to help me - your goal is to show off, gloat, and rub it in my face with your PS and 4 acceptances.

Yes, your PS about your friend's grueling death and intense fighting in Iraq will make anyone's eyes water -- but how is it suppose to help me improve MY application with MY experience listed above in the community? You want me to join the marines and to kill innocent civilians in foreign sovereign countries?

Do us a favor and don't come back to this thread.

Alrighty then, Mr. "Retake a 35 for a 31 then proudly proclaim a 33 in every post"🙄

 

[Guero]

The 3 schools I mentioned (Emory, Drexel. MCW) all sent me rejection e-mails.

Unusual as it may be, that sucks man. I'm sorry.

As for all this back and forth, I think he really is trying to help you. I think he sent you his PS so, if worst case scenario you do need to reapply, you can revise your statement into more of a story using his as one of many models. That's how mine reads, as a poignant story peppered with bio, achievements, and epiphanies. Each physician, professor, and layman along the path of my PS revision specifically commented on how mine catches their attention and displays through action that I'm a good fit as a physician. I think, from what you've said, yours may read with less vigor than it could. You're a brilliant applicant, as are so many of us on this thread. Don't let this get you down too much. I honestly think, like Nietzsche inevitably would, that this entire process must be destroyed/dismantled before it can be improved and truly become fair, if ever.

Anyway, I think I've posted enough lately, so I'll try to stay out of it and just wish you the best of luck. Take care, man.

 

[flodhi1]

JoseofStalin no one is trying to show off anything guy you need to relax. All I am trying to explain to you is that it's not about stats there are so many dimensions to getting accepted to medical school. I was actually making an effort into finding out what's wrong because you deserve an interview/acceptance probably even a hundred times more than me. So, I was willing to share my PS and even read yours because other than the personal statement which I have not reviewed your application seems to be perfect to me. I sent my PS to you specifically to help you God forbid if something goes wrong and you really do need to reapply next year. However, you started making low blows and I really did not appreciate that. Good luck with your application, do not give up hope and most likely I guarantee you that you will get accepted this cycle.

 

[shinbeats]

Flodhi, I don't really appreciate you PRETENDING to help me - your goal is to show off, gloat, and rub it in my face with your PS and 4 acceptances.

Yes, your PS about your friend's grueling death and intense fighting in Iraq will make anyone's eyes water -- but how is it suppose to help me improve MY application with MY experience listed above in the community? You want me to join the marines and to kill innocent civilians in foreign sovereign countries?

Do us a favor and don't come back to this thread.

He does not PRETEND to help people, I have seen him continuously post productive posts on this network. It was very nice of him to share his personal statement with you because I sure as hell would not share mine with someone like you. Most likely he shared it to help you remodel your personal statement in the most likely case that you do reapply. The fact that you did not realize that and made such ridiculous comments shows to me and other members of this wonderful network that you're an insecure and not so bright individual.

 

[LizzyM]

Deans are not likely to speak to you now, mid-cycle but if you don't get in anywhere, one or two may be willing to make a telephone appointment to speak with you in late May-early June to help you identify areas where you could improve. It is worth asking after May 15 when things slow down for Deans of Admissions.

 

[FattySlug]

Deans are not likely to speak to you now, mid-cycle but if you don't get in anywhere, one or two may be willing to make a telephone appointment to speak with you in late May-early June to help you identify areas where you could improve. It is worth asking after May 15 when things slow down for Deans of Admissions.

Isn't that too late to start any meaningful changes unless the red flags are quick to be fixed like PS, secondary and stuff?

 

[FTFY]

Flodhi, I don't really appreciate you PRETENDING to help me - your goal is to show off, gloat, and rub it in my face with your PS and 4 acceptances.

Yes, your PS about your friend's grueling death and intense fighting in Iraq will make anyone's eyes water -- but how is it suppose to help me improve MY application with MY experience listed above in the community? You want me to join the marines and to kill innocent civilians in foreign sovereign countries?

Do us a favor and don't come back to this thread.

Woah.. Settle down kiddo. Who are you really angry at? A stranger on the internet, or the medical schools that are not getting back to you?

This may be a time where you want to reflect on what you've said. Reading through this thread, it appears to me that you may have had a miscommunication with Flodhi. Flodhi seemed to have good intentions, but this application cycle seems to have you on edge. The cycle itself can be very stressful because it requires one to become vulnerable and open up one's self to extreme criticism.

All that said, you talk a lot about you and what will help your application. What you may want to focus on getting back to what inspires you, which seems to be (from your ECs) helping others. This cycle could just be bad luck, or it could be that you are a pretty standard candidate. Either way, what is something that will connect you with your community that will set you apart from what you've already done? Are there jobs that could give you a unique perspective?

You mentioned what was on your PS, and although I have not read it, have you thought about how many people may have similar PS's? If mentoring and tutoring truly inspired you, then by all means run with it. However, have you thought that it may just be your foundation for the person that you want to become?

How badly do you want to work in a clinic or a hospital? Have you ever wanted to snatch a person's life from the jaws of death and be a hero for a day? Have you ever consoled another who has been attacked, abused, or even raped? Have you ever seen a close friend pass away due to complications from a chronic illness? Have you ever been the sole caregiver to a family member, friend, or stranger?

If you have, how did you deal with these situations, and what did they help you realize about yourself that makes you ready to be a doctor?

If you haven't, how do you know that spending 60 hours standing in a corner of a room, and helping others learn material that is tough for them has prepared you for the road ahead?

 

[LizzyM]

Isn't that too late to start any meaningful changes unless the red flags are quick to be fixed like PS, secondary and stuff?

It depends on what your definition of "too late" is. It might mean taking a year to buff the application and applying a year after that but if that's what it takes, you do it.

 

[kautionwirez]

JoseofStalin no one is trying to show off anything guy you need to relax. All I am trying to explain to you is that it's not about stats there are so many dimensions to getting accepted to medical school. I was actually making an effort into finding out what's wrong because you deserve an interview/acceptance probably even a hundred times more than me. So, I was willing to share my PS and even read yours because other than the personal statement which I have not reviewed your application seems to be perfect to me. I sent my PS to you specifically to help you God forbid if something goes wrong and you really do need to reapply next year. However, you started making low blows and I really did not appreciate that. Good luck with your application, do not give up hope and most likely I guarantee you that you will get accepted this cycle.

IRL you'd probably respond by beating him up

but then again, he may have not responded like that IRL

 

[SH3]

Just out of curiosity, on average, when do schools send out the last few interview spots?

 

[aSagacious]

Just out of curiosity, on average, when do schools send out the last few interview spots?

March

 

[SH3]

March

😳......🙁

 

[Nymphicus]

One comment I would like to make is it isn't really about what you have on your EC list, but what the reader/adcom takes away from reading it. They can only get as much as you show them, and individuals have very different strategies for explaining what they experienced, how it came about, and what they took away from it that has further led them towards medicine. Some individuals are better at this than others, and/or do not get help to proofread for theme, content, or grammar/writing style.

Also, from my experience, many people do not take advantage of the chance to present their application as a whole as best they can. Their work and activities sections, along with the essays, don't build upon each other to best present a complete and compelling picture of themselves. Instead the essays and EC descriptions are somewhat scattered and disconnected from each other.

These are just my observations, but I feel very strongly that when there are so many applicants that are otherwise so similar, the strategies above are extremely important in differentiating yourself and scoring those interviews.

 

[VectreSpectre]

Well guys, I can officially "leave" this thread!

Here's a convo I just had with admissions at one of my top choices:

"Hi, I'd like to inquire about the status of my application."
"Ok, what's your name?"
"Vectre... V-E-C..."
"Hmm... Oh! Looks like your interview is ready to be scheduled! Tomorrow sound good?"
"😀"

Unbelievable feeling right now.

 

[TheUltimate12]

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[Bartemius]

The 3 schools I mentioned (Emory, Drexel. MCW) all sent me rejection e-mails.

I find this very hard to believe. Emory explicitly says they don't send out rejections until the end of the interview season (from the status page: "No applicant is ever rejected during the interview season"), which isn't for a few more months (I would know; they're my tippy-top choice, and though I'm glad to have had a couple interviews in the Midwest, that hasn't stopped me from checking my Emory status page every single day 😎)

As far as I'm concerned, it's like you're calling a laptop a turkey. No one's going to believe you unless you can provide irrefutable evidence to the contrary (i.e. a scan of the rejection email from Emory). And if you have to come back with something like, "I don't need to prove myself to anybody," just don't even bother responding.

I don't mean to sound rude, but for all intents and purposes, you're being a troll and dragging everyone into a pointless argument. Prove me wrong and I'll take it back.

 

[Nymphicus]

Well guys, I can officially "leave" this thread!

Here's a convo I just had with admissions at one of my top choices:

"Hi, I'd like to inquire about the status of my application."
"Ok, what's your name?"
"Vectre... V-E-C..."
"Hmm... Oh! Looks like your interview is ready to be scheduled! Tomorrow sound good?"
"😀"

Unbelievable feeling right now.

congratulations!

 

[flodhi1]

Well guys, I can officially "leave" this thread!

Here's a convo I just had with admissions at one of my top choices:

"Hi, I'd like to inquire about the status of my application."
"Ok, what's your name?"
"Vectre... V-E-C..."
"Hmm... Oh! Looks like your interview is ready to be scheduled! Tomorrow sound good?"
"😀"

Unbelievable feeling right now.

I knew you would get an interview, you're too strong of an applicant to not. Next step is the acceptance it will come soon, stay strong!

 

[tory]

Well guys, I can officially "leave" this thread!

Here's a convo I just had with admissions at one of my top choices:

"Hi, I'd like to inquire about the status of my application."
"Ok, what's your name?"
"Vectre... V-E-C..."
"Hmm... Oh! Looks like your interview is ready to be scheduled! Tomorrow sound good?"
"😀"

Unbelievable feeling right now.

Living the dream. Usually I just get "CHECK YOUR STATUS ONLINE" from admissions. I'd also like to know what school this is 😀

 

[10Acious]

For anyone who asked, I was complete or secondaries+accompanying material sent it in at most all the schools I applied to at the very beginning of October. I guess that is a bit late.
My school premed committee gave me the highest level of recommendation so I don't think I had any probs with LOR... The one thing I do not have is research experience (which I will have by the end of next semester...) I guess that could be what is preventing me from getting ii's. I have volunteered, done shadowing, did volunteering abroad also and have a few strong interests/activities outside of medicine... Now just waiting patiently for my opportunity, which I hope comes soon because come January I guess I will start re-evaluating to apply next cycle...🙁

 

[FattySlug]

Quick questions: I did take some non science GE classes for P/NP (3 total). Do you think schools look down on that? I find it hard to imagine they would rule me out because of that but just want to know what you guys think.

 

[DBop]

Well guys, I can officially "leave" this thread!

Here's a convo I just had with admissions at one of my top choices:

"Hi, I'd like to inquire about the status of my application."
"Ok, what's your name?"
"Vectre... V-E-C..."
"Hmm... Oh! Looks like your interview is ready to be scheduled! Tomorrow sound good?"
"😀"

Unbelievable feeling right now.

Congrats dude! That's awesome! I'm hoping to hear something soon too. I still am getting radio silence on the interview front

 

[medschool2016]

flodhi1, why do you say that VCU automatically puts you in the bottom if you have a pre-health committee packet?

 

[Northwesterly]

flodhi1, why do you say that VCU automatically puts you in the bottom if you have a pre-health committee packet?

I think he actually said that they'd put you on the bottom of the pile if your school has a pre-health committee letter/packet option that you declined to use.

 

[corpsman33]

Flodhi, I don't really appreciate you PRETENDING to help me - your goal is to show off, gloat, and rub it in my face with your PS and 4 acceptances.

Yes, your PS about your friend's grueling death and intense fighting in Iraq will make anyone's eyes water -- but how is it suppose to help me improve MY application with MY experience listed above in the community? You want me to join the marines and to kill innocent civilians in foreign sovereign countries?

Do us a favor and don't come back to this thread.

Is that how you view our nation's military????

If so, I really hope that you are not accepted anywhere. Perhaps you can practice medicine in some third world nation where freedom isn't readily taken for granted.

That comment literally makes me sick.

 

[WSOXFAN]

Is that how you view our nation's military????

If so, I really hope that you are not accepted anywhere. Perhaps you can practice medicine in some third world nation where freedom isn't readily taken for granted.

That comment literally makes me sick.

+1. From his responses in this thread he is not the type of person I would ever want to go to school with or work with.

 

[flodhi1]

flodhi1, why do you say that VCU automatically puts you in the bottom if you have a pre-health committee packet?

I stated that if your school has a prehealth committee and you do NOT receive a LOR from that committee then you are red flagged by VCU medical school. Here is my supporting proof from VCU medical school itself. I am aware of a couple other schools that have similar policies but unfortunately the names of those schools are not coming to my mind at this moment. I will research the other schools and let you know ASAP. These specific schools honestly do not care what your stats are if you are unable to read and follow their basic requirements.

http://www.medschool.vcu.edu/admissions/md/documents/lettersofrecommend_instructions_2009.pdf

If you are unable to open that document I will quote it for you verbatim.

"If your school has an established pre-medical committee, your letter must come from them. The Admissions Committee policy is that students who attend schools that have formal pre-med advisors or pre-med committees must have a letter from that advisor or committee. Failure to provide this letter can be considered grounds for not pursuing the file further or for evaluating the candidate as less competitive than others. The committee believes those students whose undergraduate institution provides such a service is better able to evaluate the candidate in the context of that schools entire applicant pool. They also believe that students who have not availed themselves of the service may be less well prepared for medical education than those who have participated."

 

[flodhi1]

Is that how you view our nation's military????

If so, I really hope that you are not accepted anywhere. Perhaps you can practice medicine in some third world nation where freedom isn't readily taken for granted.

That comment literally makes me sick.

+1. From his responses in this thread he is not the type of person I would ever want to go to school with or work with.

You guys should not let the immaturity of a young kid online get you hyped up. As a Marine, I and many others have been called a coward, a murderer, piece of **** by many even my own fellow Americans. Did it bother me ever? yes, It bothered me when I was a young boy but now I and many of my fellow Marines have truly matured beyond the superficial words and hopefully you guys will be able to ignore such things through out your healthy long lives.

 

[JosefStalin87]

Is that how you view our nation's military????

If so, I really hope that you are not accepted anywhere. Perhaps you can practice medicine in some third world nation where freedom isn't readily taken for granted.

That comment literally makes me sick.

Hey, what I state is a *FACT*

From Flodhi's PS he stated he served in Haditha, Iraq - where massive human rights violations, including but not limited to, crimes against humanity, torture, ethnic cleansing, and sexual violence were carried out by US marines against civilians. Now Flodhi states that he wanted to become a doctor based on his experience there, but who knows what he really did there. Just like tens of thousands of other marines he could have tortured, raped, molested, and killed countless unarmed Iraq civilians.

However, I'm not being personal against him - US military commits war crimes everywhere. From the shooting of the unarmed SS troops in Europe to the My-Lai massacre in Vietnam to Abu Ghrab prison in Iraq.

I'm just stating a fact - U.S. military is a very dishonorable organization that has been proven time and time again to commit atrocities and war crimes.

 

[corpsman33]

You guys should not let the immaturity of a young kid online get you hyped up. As a Marine, I and many others have been called a coward, a murderer, piece of **** by many even my own fellow Americans. Did it bother me ever? yes, It bothered me when I was a young boy but now I and many of my fellow Marines have truly matured beyond the superficial words and hopefully you guys will be able to ignore such things through out your healthy long lives.

I have matured plenty (I am a 30 year old Corpsman), but you gotta know that "Doc" doesn't take it too lightly when his fellow Marines get called out like that.

I work with the Wounded Warriors on a daily basis (most have only 2-3 limbs left). These guys are heros, and they don't deserved to be called murderers (even by a rediculous troll on some online forum).

Anyways, somebody had to say something, and I have responded to much less meaningful posts - this one seemed more worthy. 😀

 

[corpsman33]

Hey, what I state is a *FACT*

From Flodhi's PS he stated he served in Haditha, Iraq - where massive human rights violations, including but not limited to, crimes against humanity, torture, ethnic cleansing, and sexual violence were carried out by US marines against civilians. Now Flodhi states that he wanted to become a doctor based on his experience there, but who knows what he really did there. Just like tens of thousands of other marines he could have tortured, raped, molested, and killed countless unarmed Iraq civilians.

However, I'm not being personal against him - US military commits war crimes everywhere. From the shooting of the unarmed SS troops in Europe to the My-Lai massacre in Vietnam to Abu Ghrab prison in Iraq.

I'm just stating a fact - U.S. military is a very dishonorable organization that has been proven time and time again to commit atrocities and war crimes.

Troll, troll, troll.

Whatever....no point feeding him anymore.

 

[shinbeats]

Hey, what I state is a *FACT*

From Flodhi's PS he stated he served in Haditha, Iraq - where massive human rights violations, including but not limited to, crimes against humanity, torture, ethnic cleansing, and sexual violence were carried out by US marines against civilians. Now Flodhi states that he wanted to become a doctor based on his experience there, but who knows what he really did there. Just like tens of thousands of other marines he could have tortured, raped, molested, and killed countless unarmed Iraq civilians.

However, I'm not being personal against him - US military commits war crimes everywhere. From the shooting of the unarmed SS troops in Europe to the My-Lai massacre in Vietnam to Abu Ghrab prison in Iraq.

I'm just stating a fact - U.S. military is a very dishonorable organization that has been proven time and time again to commit atrocities and war crimes.

Some guy tries to sincerely help you online by showing you his personal statement as a model and you go around sharing his information and disgracing his life and the organization that he stood for to protect this country. What is a person like you going to do when a patient pisses you off? go around sharing all their personal and medical records with your pals at a bar? and then maybe share that your patient has Herpes or something. You my friend have a serious issue in your moral character. There is a reason why you are not receiving an interview from a single school even with your stats because you do not deserve to be a physician and I pray to God you do not get accepted to any medical school in your whole life.

 

[corpsman33]

Hey, what I state is a *FACT*

From Flodhi's PS he stated he served in Haditha, Iraq - where massive human rights violations, including but not limited to, crimes against humanity, torture, ethnic cleansing, and sexual violence were carried out by US marines against civilians. Now Flodhi states that he wanted to become a doctor based on his experience there, but who knows what he really did there. Just like tens of thousands of other marines he could have tortured, raped, molested, and killed countless unarmed Iraq civilians.

However, I'm not being personal against him - US military commits war crimes everywhere. From the shooting of the unarmed SS troops in Europe to the My-Lai massacre in Vietnam to Abu Ghrab prison in Iraq.

I'm just stating a fact - U.S. military is a very dishonorable organization that has been proven time and time again to commit atrocities and war crimes.

I also just noticed his screen name, lol.

I am pretty sure Stalin never committed any such atrocities .

 

[WSOXFAN]

Hey, what I state is a *FACT*

From Flodhi's PS he stated he served in Haditha, Iraq - where massive human rights violations, including but not limited to, crimes against humanity, torture, ethnic cleansing, and sexual violence were carried out by US marines against civilians. Now Flodhi states that he wanted to become a doctor based on his experience there, but who knows what he really did there. Just like tens of thousands of other marines he could have tortured, raped, molested, and killed countless unarmed Iraq civilians.

However, I'm not being personal against him - US military commits war crimes everywhere. From the shooting of the unarmed SS troops in Europe to the My-Lai massacre in Vietnam to Abu Ghrab prison in Iraq.

I'm just stating a fact - U.S. military is a very dishonorable organization that has been proven time and time again to commit atrocities and war crimes.

I now truly hope you never get into medical school and am very pleased that admissions committees are able to see through any garbage you presented to them. I don't care how good your numbers are; you are a disgrace and are beneath any job in civilized society.

Flodhi wish you all the best as you enter medical school.

 

[JosefStalin87]

I have matured plenty (I am a 30 year old Corpsman), but you gotta know that "Doc" doesn't take it too lightly when his fellow Marines get called out like that.

I work with the Wounded Warriors on a daily basis (most have only 2-3 limbs left). These guys are heros, and they don't deserved to be called murderers (even by a rediculous troll on some online forum).

Anyways, somebody had to say something, and I have responded to much less meaningful posts - this one seemed more worthy. 😀

Corpsman, let me question your logic.

Why did we attack and kill millions during the Vietnam war? Under what basis? How were these rag-tagged Vietcongs a threat to our freedom in USA?

Similarily, why did we attack and kill millions of Iraqis? Under what basis?

The fact that you voluntarily joined the army, knowing of its dark and dishonorable history filled with war crimes, means that you lack a conscious - hence unsuitable to become a physician.

 

[monkeyMD]

JosefStalin87,
Maybe you were a too much of a cookie cutter premed and the drop in MCAT score didn't help either. Maybe the descriptions for your activities in your primary app was too ordinary. Maybe the admissions committee found that you were just "going through the motions" when completing your premed activities, rather from seeking to grow from them. Maybe your tone (in your writing) did not sit well with the med schools. But at the end of the day, if it's meant to be, then you will get an interview invite.
Good luck man.

 

[JosefStalin87]

I consider my father, who burnt his draft card during the Vietnam war era, a true hero. He is someone I looked up to and learned the true meaning of the word "conscious." You do not join the army to kill innocent civilians.

 

[flodhi1]

Corpsman, let me question your logic.

Why did we attack and kill millions during the Vietnam war? Under what basis? How were these rag-tagged Vietcongs a threat to our freedom in USA?

Similarily, why did we attack and kill millions of Iraqis? Under what basis?

The fact that you voluntarily joined the army, knowing of its dark and dishonorable history filled with war crimes, means that you lack a conscious - hence unsuitable to become a physician.

Guy listen to me you're wasting your time with political statements and going into tangents. You need to worry about the application cycle and getting into medical school because that is the task at hand not discussing love and hate stories in Europe, Vietnam and Iraq. As I stated before your numbers are great, your ECs are wonderful but most likely I think your Personal statement/secondaries are holding you back. Have some professional individuals that are not affiliated with your friends, family and maybe even known staff members in school review them so there is absolutely no bias involved. Good luck!

 

[elblackwell]

Personally, I do have objections to some of our military's actions, but I have nothing but respect and admiration for the people who serve in the military. They are willing to go anywhere and sacrifice their lives and their personal obligations to serve the citizens of this country. Please don't attack an individual who has likely made many personal sacrifices and has experienced a great deal of sadness and loss because of you political beliefs. It is disrespectful to him and his family.
By the way, while your user name is your choice, you can't possibly expect people to take you seriously regarding human rights violations with that name.
On a different subject- this is what was written in an email from Emory: If you do not immediately receive an invitation to interview, this does not mean you have been eliminated from consideration. All completed applications are KEPT IN REVIEW THROUGHOUT THE INTERVIEW SEASON (October-February).
So I highly doubt you received a rejection from them.

 

[corpsman33]

Corpsman, let me question your logic.

Why did we attack and kill millions during the Vietnam war? Under what basis? How were these rag-tagged Vietcongs a threat to our freedom in USA?

Similarily, why did we attack and kill millions of Iraqis? Under what basis?

The fact that you voluntarily joined the army, knowing of its dark and dishonorable history filled with war crimes, means that you lack a conscious - hence unsuitable to become a physician.

First, off I joined the Navy, not the Army (Corpsman are in the Navy).

Second, Corpsman are the medics of the Navy and Marines. Corpsman are taught to value human life and are known to frequently treat insurgents at the risk (and often loss) of their own lives.

Your ignorance continues to astound me.

 

[corpsman33]

Guy listen to me you're wasting your time with political statements and going into tangents. You need to worry about the application cycle and getting into medical school because that is the task at hand not discussing love and hate stories in Europe, Vietnam and Iraq. As I stated before your numbers are great, your ECs are wonderful but most likely I think your Personal statement/secondaries are holding you back. Have some professional individuals that are not affiliated with your friends, family and maybe even known staff members in school review them so there is absolutely no bias involved. Good luck!

My bad....somebody put this thread back on track, lol.

 

[monkeyMD]

Guy listen to me you're wasting your time with political statements and going into tangents. You need to worry about the application cycle and getting into medical school because that is the task at hand not discussing love and hate stories in Europe, Vietnam and Iraq. As I stated before your numbers are great, your ECs are wonderful but most likely I think your Personal statement/secondaries are holding you back. Have some professional individuals that are not affiliated with your friends, family and maybe even known staff members in school review them so there is absolutely no bias involved. Good luck!

👍

 

[shinbeats]

Guy listen to me you're wasting your time with political statements and going into tangents. You need to worry about the application cycle and getting into medical school because that is the task at hand not discussing love and hate stories in Europe, Vietnam and Iraq. As I stated before your numbers are great, your ECs are wonderful but most likely I think your Personal statement/secondaries are holding you back. Have some professional individuals that are not affiliated with your friends, family and maybe even known staff members in school review them so there is absolutely no bias involved. Good luck!

👍 👍

 

[Ilikepi]

I consider my father, who burnt his draft card during the Vietnam war era, a true hero. He is someone I looked up to and learned the true meaning of the word "conscious." You do not join the army to kill innocent civilians.

psst... I think you mean 'conscience'. Hopefully things like that didn't creep into your admissions essays...

 

[LizzyM]

As an aside... I'd estimate based on my observations of the past 10 years that active duty in a war zone is good for 5 LizzyM points, active duty following graduation (no war zone) from a US service academy is good for 4 points, active duty (no war zone, no service academy) 3 points.

 

[corpsman33]

As an aside... I'd estimate based on my observations of the past 10 years that active duty in a war zone is good for 5 LizzyM points, active duty following graduation (no war zone) from a US service academy is good for 4 points, active duty (no war zone, no service academy) 3 points.

Thanks for the valuable info!

 

[JosefStalin87]

As an aside... I'd estimate based on my observations of the past 10 years that active duty in a war zone is good for 5 LizzyM points, active duty following graduation (no war zone) from a US service academy is good for 4 points, active duty (no war zone, no service academy) 3 points.

What about conscientous objectors who refuses to bear arms?

 

[stressed07]

Hey, what I state is a *FACT*

From Flodhi's PS he stated he served in Haditha, Iraq - where massive human rights violations, including but not limited to, crimes against humanity, torture, ethnic cleansing, and sexual violence were carried out by US marines against civilians. Now Flodhi states that he wanted to become a doctor based on his experience there, but who knows what he really did there. Just like tens of thousands of other marines he could have tortured, raped, molested, and killed countless unarmed Iraq civilians.

However, I'm not being personal against him - US military commits war crimes everywhere. From the shooting of the unarmed SS troops in Europe to the My-Lai massacre in Vietnam to Abu Ghrab prison in Iraq.

I'm just stating a fact - U.S. military is a very dishonorable organization that has been proven time and time again to commit atrocities and war crimes.

Bro i dont usually comment on these boards that much but i think u need to chill a bit. Yes, certain people in our military have made mistakes and there have been certain incidents that we, as citizens, may not have been particularly proud of but to label the entire US military as a dishonorable organization is pure stupidity on ur part. As someone who lives in the US (or is at least planning to do so), u should be a little more respectful and grateful really for the people that are putting their lives on the line for this country.

And no offense dude but maybe not getting accepted this cycle and taking a year (or 2) off to mature a bit may help u in the long run.......just my 2 cents