No light at the end of the tunnel... Throwing in DO's this late?

[MDPedigree]

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Hey guys please don't quote!

I am extremely lucky to have gotten 8 II's so far. Unfortunately my post-II success rate has been abysmal. 4 WL and 1 Post-II rejection. I had another interview today where my interviewer flat out told me I should consider Caribbean or DO schools because I am already a reapplicant. Is it too late for me to look into those?

I will comment about my interviews though. I'm a non-trad who's been working several years in the non-medical field in a sales related job. I basically speak for a living and have been involved in many very high-stakes interviews in the past; interviews where in my field 1/5 people would be chosen from an interview pool. From the feedback I have received from people higher up than me in my field, I have been told that I interview well. Because of this, I don't believe it is my interviews that are hurting me. I have generally felt decent about them (great at some schools) and gotten the WL hammer. I believe it is my grades that are holding me back (LM~68-69), even though it is at the average of most of these schools. Also, I went to a very small state school in a small state which some interviewers have commented on potentially hurting me as well.

At this point, should I begin preparing for next cycle again? I don't really know what my options are or what to do at this point. Slowly loosing hope.

 

[bananafish94]

First of all, an interviewer telling you to consider Caribbean schools during an interview is a grotesquely inappropriate and incorrect comment.

Second of all, if you don't get one acceptance from eight interviews, I will eat all of my hats. That being said, I think it's wise to be conservative and always try and improve your application in case you don't get in anywhere (just to be clear, I think that is an overwhelmingly unlikely scenario). And I think if you wanted to throw a couple of DO schools into the ring like maybe LECOM, you may have some luck. When do you hear back from the rest of your MD interviews? It might help to know the results of everything before you make decisions like that.

 

[PreMedMissteps]

am extremely lucky to have gotten 8 II's so far. Unfortunately my post-II success rate has been abysmal. 4 WL and 1 Post-II rejection. I had another interview today where my interviewer flat out told me I should consider Caribbean or D

You’ve received 8 IIs so those med schools think you’re qualified, but something is going wrong (IMHO) during the interview. What might that be?

 

[MCATISEZ]

I have had 6 MD II and got waitlisted three times in a row and was put down really badly during my 6th interview. My fourth one came through. Stay positive but you can throw in some DO apps if you would be happy attending their. Good luck, I’m pretty sure you’ll hear good news soon!!


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[MDPedigree]

First of all, an interviewer telling you to consider Caribbean schools during an interview is a grotesquely inappropriate and incorrect comment.

Second of all, if you don't get one acceptance from eight interviews, I will eat all of my hats. That being said, I think it's wise to be conservative and always try and improve your application in case you don't get in anywhere (just to be clear, I think that is an overwhelmingly unlikely scenario). And I think if you wanted to throw a couple of DO schools into the ring like maybe LECOM, you may have some luck. When do you hear back from the rest of your MD interviews? It might help to know the results of everything before you make decisions like that.

Most I think I should hear back in mid-late January. The last 3 I am waiting on I recently interviewed at (2 in early Dec and one today. All said mid-late Jan). At this point, I'm hoping WL's from the 3. I think if I am on 7 WL's maybe something can happen during May and June. Most of my friends last cycle got in off waitlists and were only WL at 2-3 schools. But still, I can't imagine it being May and June and having no plan for the coming year though. Thanks for chiming in!

 

[MDPedigree]

You’ve received 8 IIs so those med schools think you’re qualified, but something is going wrong (IMHO) during the interview. What might that be?

I am very genuine with myself. I know when I did bad on a test, or when I failed at something. I whole-hearedly don't believe my interviews are the problem. At some (most) of these schools, I was told by someone on the admissions team that they are very conservative with their acceptances, and that more than half the class comes from the WL. After hearing things like that, I was almost certain I would not land a straight acceptance at these schools. I agree with you, if they invite me, they must like me. But i just don't feel like I have enough to break the final hurdle. Not really sure why. I have average stats but I also am an MCAT retaker which I think also hurts me.

 

[Goro]

Hey guys please don't quote!

I am extremely lucky to have gotten 8 II's so far. Unfortunately my post-II success rate has been abysmal. 4 WL and 1 Post-II rejection. I had another interview today where my interviewer flat out told me I should consider Caribbean or DO schools because I am already a reapplicant. Is it too late for me to look into those?

I will comment about my interviews though. I'm a non-trad who's been working several years in the non-medical field in a sales related job. I basically speak for a living and have been involved in many very high-stakes interviews in the past; interviews where in my field 1/5 people would be chosen from an interview pool. From the feedback I have received from people higher up than me in my field, I have been told that I interview well. Because of this, I don't believe it is my interviews that are hurting me. I have generally felt decent about them (great at some schools) and gotten the WL hammer. I believe it is my grades that are holding me back (LM~68-69), even though it is at the average of most of these schools. Also, I went to a very small state school in a small state which some interviewers have commented on potentially hurting me as well.

At this point, should I begin preparing for next cycle again? I don't really know what my options are or what to do at this point. Slowly loosing hope.

It's too late in the DO cycle.

Despite your speaking skills, for you to be wait-listed in 6/6 tries say that there is something wrong with your interview skills.m Or you had the bad luck to interview at schools whose normal behavior is to not notify anybody until the end of the cycle?

Either that or a bad LOR?

Don't even think about the Carib!!!!

 

[MDPedigree]

It's too late in the DO cycle.

Despite your speaking skills, for you to be wait-listed in 6/6 tries say that there is something wrong with your interview skills.m Or you had the bad luck to interview at schools whose normal behavior is to not notify anybody until the end of the cycle?

Either that or a bad LOR?

Don't even think about the Carib!!!!

At 3 of the 4 schools I'm WL at, they essentially said "the vast majority of you will be WL. We do this so that we don't fill up the class too early in order to give an equal chance at acceptance for people who interview in August vs April." So I think it may be the former, as I was genuinely not surprised to get the WL even though I thought the interview went well. One of those gives rankings, and I am in the top 1/3.

Hmm. For the bad LOR part, if that were the case, I don't think I would have had this many II to begin with.

 

[tiramisucheese]

At 3 of the 4 schools I'm WL at, they essentially said "the vast majority of you will be WL. We do this so that we don't fill up the class too early in order to give an equal chance at acceptance for people who interview in August vs April." So I think it may be the former, as I was genuinely not surprised to get the WL even though I thought the interview went well. One of those gives rankings, and I am in the top 1/3.

Hmm. For the bad LOR part, if that were the case, I don't think I would have had this many II to begin with.

Have you had any mock interviews specifically for med school? I was also always told that I'm a dynamic interviewer and that I have nothing to worry about, but once I started practicing, it became all too apparent that I kept focusing on my previous career (non-trad, career changer, non-science related). It wasn't something I realized because talking about my previous career has always been so natural, but people pointed out that adcoms don't care about that prior experience on its own. They need to understand how it will relate to my success in med school.

Something to consider.

 

[MDPedigree]

Have you had any mock interviews specifically for med school? I was also always told that I'm a dynamic interviewer and that I have nothing to worry about, but once I started practicing, it became all too apparent that I kept focusing on my previous career (non-trad, career changer, non-science related). It wasn't something I realized because talking about my previous career has always been so natural, but people pointed out that adcoms don't care about that prior experience on its own. They need to understand how it will relate to my success in med school.

Something to consider.

Yup! I had a couple before my very first interview. I stopped doing them because I think I learned what I needed to focus on by then.

 

[Goro]

At 3 of the 4 schools I'm WL at, they essentially said "the vast majority of you will be WL. We do this so that we don't fill up the class too early in order to give an equal chance at acceptance for people who interview in August vs April.".

There ya go.

 

[21Rush12]

You are in a good position, and it is late. As goro points out above, waitlists work differently at different schools. They wouldn’t have interviewed you if they didn’t think you would be a good fit. Waitlists suck, but the odds of coming off of one out of the 4 is good. And, if I understand correctly, you have more interviews coming up.

I bet the carib/DO comment was to see how you would react. I hope you handled it well (but I assume you did, as you seem to be a good communicator and have some sense).

 

[IWillMakeIt1]

Hey guys please don't quote!

I am extremely lucky to have gotten 8 II's so far. Unfortunately my post-II success rate has been abysmal. 4 WL and 1 Post-II rejection. I had another interview today where my interviewer flat out told me I should consider Caribbean or DO schools because I am already a reapplicant. Is it too late for me to look into those?

I will comment about my interviews though. I'm a non-trad who's been working several years in the non-medical field in a sales related job. I basically speak for a living and have been involved in many very high-stakes interviews in the past; interviews where in my field 1/5 people would be chosen from an interview pool. From the feedback I have received from people higher up than me in my field, I have been told that I interview well. Because of this, I don't believe it is my interviews that are hurting me. I have generally felt decent about them (great at some schools) and gotten the WL hammer. I believe it is my grades that are holding me back (LM~68-69), even though it is at the average of most of these schools. Also, I went to a very small state school in a small state which some interviewers have commented on potentially hurting me as well.

At this point, should I begin preparing for next cycle again? I don't really know what my options are or what to do at this point. Slowly loosing hope.

you have 8 II's!! congrats!!! I think you will get an acceptance but you cant focus too much on getting a WL that you will end up with more waitlists. Figure out where things went wrong, and please dont say you are a perfect interviewer. No one is, we are humans and we make mistakes. Good luck!!

 

[MDPedigree]

You are in a good position, and it is late. As goro points out above, waitlists work differently at different schools. They wouldn’t have interviewed you if they didn’t think you would be a good fit. Waitlists suck, but the odds of coming off of one out of the 4 is good. And, if I understand correctly, you have more interviews coming up.

I bet the carib/DO comment was to see how you would react. I hope you handled it well (but I assume you did, as you seem to be a good communicator and have some sense).

I think he was more saying it bc I told him I did not have an acceptance yet. I just nodded when he said that, because he did have somewhat of a point. Thanks very much for the compliments!

 

[MDPedigree]

you have 8 II's!! congrats!!! I think you will get an acceptance but you cant focus too much on getting a WL that you will end up with more waitlists. Figure out where things went wrong, and please dont say you are a perfect interviewer. No one is, we are humans and we make mistakes. Good luck!!

Thanks! And yes I know for sure I am not a perfect interviewer! What I meant to say was that I don’t think interviews are my major problem (i.e I think they were going well, and were not the reason for the WL’s).

 

[On_The_Way_Up]

What is your MCAT?

 

[mcdocky]

Thanks! And yes I know for sure I am not a perfect interviewer! What I meant to say was that I don’t think interviews are my major problem (i.e I think they were going well, and were not the reason for the WL’s).

1) Why would you tell your interviewer you didn't get accepted anywhere else? Why even mention it? If they asked, a better answer would have just been "I've been fortunate to receive multiple interview invites and am looking forward to good news."

2) If you don't get into any of the 6 interviews, you don't have good interviewing skills. Any school sending you an invite is interested in you, if you interview well you will get into at least one unless they were all harvard yale stanford class schools. If you don't, then I'm inclined to believe it is your interviewing skills.

3) don't apply DO.

 

[OUBobcat]

Thanks! And yes I know for sure I am not a perfect interviewer! What I meant to say was that I don’t think interviews are my major problem (i.e I think they were going well, and were not the reason for the WL’s).

Perhaps your application contains a minor flaw that is coming up during the interview, and you are not explaining it appropriately or sufficiently? For example, lots of people here on SDN say that they get asked about Ws on their transcripts, and a good explanation is required to rid yourself of their plague. Are you getting asked about a flaw and maybe giving a poor excuse? Just my .02, I'm just a freshman and I'm assuming that the issue lies within the interview of course.

 

[tiramisucheese]

Thanks! And yes I know for sure I am not a perfect interviewer! What I meant to say was that I don’t think interviews are my major problem (i.e I think they were going well, and were not the reason for the WL’s).

Basically my interviewer said I have a good application, it’s just my MCAT that is holding me back. I politely pointed out to him that based on the interview packet I was just given 15 mins prior to my interview that my MCAT was exactly the school’s median. I then politely told him that 85 students in the current class have an MCAT at or lower than mine (the school has a 170 class size). He then nodded his head no and said “I don’t think so... that can’t be”. I just left it there because I didn’t want to fight with my interviewer lol.

Okay so I guess the interview packet they gave us and MSAR is lying????? WTF?? Does anyone have any explanation for this?? I’m still dumbfounded.

For reference, my MCAT, and the "school's median" is in the low-mid teens.

So I just saw this comment you made on another thread. If this interaction is indicative of your typical interviewing style, you might be coming across too aggressive and pompous with insufficient ego stroking for the interviewer. Polite in your opinion might not be coming across that way to the other person. Just my $0.02.

 

[MDPedigree]

So I just saw this comment you made on another thread. If this interaction is indicative of your typical interviewing style, you might be coming across too aggressive and pompous with insufficient ego stroking for the interviewer. Polite in your opinion might not be coming across that way to the other person. Just my $0.02.

I definitely see your point, and see why and how that could be the case. I used to work as a DA assistant in college many years ago and was taught how to present evidence in a way that is not condescending or implying I deserve an outcome. Simply presenting the evidence to present it. I did that here in an even more polite way and if it did come off as arrogant than I guess I’m just supposed to not have a voice in this process at all? If I believe the interviwer is incorrect about something, I will tell him (in a polite way). My pre med advisor told me an Adcom member once told him they hate interviewees who just roll over and kiss up to the interviewers on whatever they say but prefer candidates who can challenge an interviewer because physicians at the end of the day need to have grit. Not that I think I challenged him in any way, but I just kindly told him the facts of his school.

And also for reference, I did not think this interview went that well. I did think the others did however as they were mainly conversational.

 

[WALL_E8]

I definitely see your point, and see why and how that could be the case. I used to work as a DA assistant in college many years ago and was taught how to present evidence in a way that is not condescending or implying I deserve an outcome. Simply presenting the evidence to present it. I did that here in an even more polite way and if it did come off as arrogant than I guess I’m just supposed to not have a voice in this process at all? If I believe the interviwer is incorrect about something, I will tell him (in a polite way). My pre med advisor told me an Adcom member once told him they hate interviewees who just roll over and kiss up to the interviewers on whatever they say but prefer candidates who can challenge an interviewer because physicians at the end of the day need to have grit. Not that I think I challenged him in any way, but I just kindly told him the facts of his school.

And also for reference, I did not think this interview went that well. I did think the others did however as they were mainly conversational.

Don't you think there is something wrong with you telling the person who is interviewing you "the facts of his school"?

Even if you are right, instead of insisting their knowledge is lacking, you can find a way to communicate the same information in a less obnoxious (from the interviewers perspective) and more humble way. Otherwise, they may find it off-putting.





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[MDPedigree]

Don't you think there is something wrong with you telling the person who is interviewing you "the facts of his school"?

Even if you are right, instead of insisting their knowledge is lacking, you can find a way to communicate the same information in a less obnoxious (from the interviewers perspective) and more humble way. Otherwise, they may find it off-putting.





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I didn't tell him he was wrong. It was more along the lines of "isn't the median a 51x though? thats what the sheet seems to imply". I was more so seeking clarification because I was confused (still am).

 

[WALL_E8]

I didn't tell him he was wrong. It was more along the lines of "isn't the median a 51x though? thats what the sheet seems to imply". I was more so seeking clarification because I was confused (still am).

Okay, well best of luck with the rest of your cycle. You still have a great chance of scoring an acceptance.

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[MDPedigree]

Okay, well best of luck with the rest of your cycle. You still have a great chance of scoring an acceptance.

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Thank you! I appreciate it 🙂

 

[Welshman]

Maybe its the quality of your answers instead of your confidence and articulation in presenting them?

 

[SterlingMaloryArcher]

Hey guys please don't quote!

I am extremely lucky to have gotten 8 II's so far. Unfortunately my post-II success rate has been abysmal. 4 WL and 1 Post-II rejection. I had another interview today where my interviewer flat out told me I should consider Caribbean or DO schools because I am already a reapplicant. Is it too late for me to look into those?

I will comment about my interviews though. I'm a non-trad who's been working several years in the non-medical field in a sales related job. I basically speak for a living and have been involved in many very high-stakes interviews in the past; interviews where in my field 1/5 people would be chosen from an interview pool. From the feedback I have received from people higher up than me in my field, I have been told that I interview well. Because of this, I don't believe it is my interviews that are hurting me. I have generally felt decent about them (great at some schools) and gotten the WL hammer. I believe it is my grades that are holding me back (LM~68-69), even though it is at the average of most of these schools. Also, I went to a very small state school in a small state which some interviewers have commented on potentially hurting me as well.

At this point, should I begin preparing for next cycle again? I don't really know what my options are or what to do at this point. Slowly loosing hope.

 

[MDPedigree]

Maybe its the quality of your answers instead of your confidence and articulation in presenting them?

More or less I just echoed things that were in my PS+secondaries for the basic interview questions (why medicine, why us, tell me about yourself). Everything else just stemmed off of those like a regular conversation. If the answers were good enough to get an invite idk why all of a sudden they would be a problem now... also just from the feedback the interviewers seemed to give, it appeared as if they liked my answers. Then again, idk if interviewers are trained to make it look like they like what you’re saying.

 

[IWillMakeIt1]

More or less I just echoed things that were in my PS+secondaries for the basic interview questions (why medicine, why us, tell me about yourself). Everything else just stemmed off of those like a regular conversation. If the answers were good enough to get an invite idk why all of a sudden they would be a problem now... also just from the feedback the interviewers seemed to give, it appeared as if they liked my answers. Then again, idk if interviewers are trained to make it look like they like what you’re saying.

Did you send thank you emails? And did you get any responses especially from those school that WLed you? <irrelevant but just wondering>

 

[drmantistobbogan]

OP, based on your responses in this thread, I'm guessing you just lack self awareness. People keep suggesting things that could be possible issues and you've been sort of smug and argumentative about it. My guess is this quality is showing in your interviews and you just don't realize it.

 

[tiramisucheese]

OP, based on your responses in this thread, I'm guessing you just lack self awareness. People keep suggesting things that could be possible issues and you've been sort of smug and argumentative about it. My guess is this quality is showing in your interviews and you just don't realize it.

Nah, can't be. OP is an expert in internet forum communications due to his extremely non-traditional background in talking to human beings.

 

[MDPedigree]

Thanks for the input everyone! Really appreciate it! Good luck on the rest of the trail 🙂

 

[non-trad++]

It's too late in the DO cycle.

Despite your speaking skills, for you to be wait-listed in 6/6 tries say that there is something wrong with your interview skills.m Or you had the bad luck to interview at schools whose normal behavior is to not notify anybody until the end of the cycle?

Either that or a bad LOR?

Don't even think about the Carib!!!!

I think your ‘exceptional’ interviewing skills is hurting you. Looks like that over-confidence coupled with a ton of fakery exhibited by professional speakers is turning off the interviewers. And if this is the case, I don’t blame them - they are looking for genuine...

Please forgive me in advance if I am being too generalizing and off the mark.

 

[24blue8]

There could be a lot of things going on. How old are you (or how old do you look)? What's your BMI (my college roommate swore he was getting rejected bc he, "looked fluffy in photos but fat in person")? Did you have a piece of spinach in your teeth at every interview? You've received good advice and feedback in this thread. At the end of the day your cycle isn't over. Hopefully it works out.

 

[Goro]

What's your BMI (my college roommate swore he was getting rejected bc he, "looked fluffy in photos but fat in person")?

No, just no.

All one has to do is look at some med school class photos and see how many overweight people there are.

 

[MDPedigree]

Hey all! To update you guys, I'm sitting on 13 II's now and have gotten some much better luck post-II! It so happens at 2 of the 4 schools the class was full and was only waitlisting people. At another one, the school accepts very few and takes more than a majority off the waitlist. The rejection came from a T10. So thanks everyone for thinking I have ingenuine reasons for medicine and am somehow fake, but I doubt that is the case now and you guys are just very quick to cast judgement on someone on the internet whom you have no idea about.

 

[Anti-PD1]

Hey all! To update you guys, I'm sitting on 13 II's now and have gotten some much better luck post-II! It so happens at 2 of the 4 schools the class was full and was only waitlisting people. At another one, the school accepts very few and takes more than a majority off the waitlist. The rejection came from a T10. So thanks everyone for thinking I have ingenuine reasons for medicine and am somehow fake, but I doubt that is the case now and you guys are just very quick to cast judgement on someone on the internet whom you have no idea about.

13 II is awesome. Any acceptances yet?

 

[MDPedigree]

13 II is awesome. Any acceptances yet?

Thankfully!

 

[non-trad++]

Hey all! To update you guys, I'm sitting on 13 II's now and have gotten some much better luck post-II! It so happens at 2 of the 4 schools the class was full and was only waitlisting people. At another one, the school accepts very few and takes more than a majority off the waitlist. The rejection came from a T10. So thanks everyone for thinking I have ingenuine reasons for medicine and am somehow fake, but I doubt that is the case now and you guys are just very quick to cast judgement on someone on the internet whom you have no idea about.

OP: Unfortunately my post-II success rate has been abysmal. 4 WL and 1 Post-II rejection. I had another interview today where my interviewer flat out told me I should consider Caribbean or DO schools because I am already a reapplicant. Is it too late for me to look into those?

Speaking for my self/post, I was just trying to help; and I resorted to giving a hypothetical situation... based on the DISMAL situation you vividly painted for us. I don't think anyone made any judgement about you, though.

Congrats nevertheless! I am glad you made it... as well as amazed with your spectacular transformation... here in SDN.

 

[MDPedigree]

OP: Unfortunately my post-II success rate has been abysmal. 4 WL and 1 Post-II rejection. I had another interview today where my interviewer flat out told me I should consider Caribbean or DO schools because I am already a reapplicant. Is it too late for me to look into those?

Speaking for my self/post, I was just trying to help; and I resorted to giving a hypothetical situation... based on the DISMAL situation you vividly painted for us. I don't think anyone made any judgement about you, though.

Congrats nevertheless! I am glad you made it... as well as amazed with your spectacular transformation... here in SDN.

Well you said I claimed to have “exceptional” interview skills when I never said such thing... I just said I have been told I interview well. You then said I was overconfident and displayed “fakery” like other professional speakers. Didn’t know that just because you speak for a living automatically makes you fake. Sounds like judgement fam. I’m never disengenious with my clients, ever.

No worries though, I’m not mad or anything. Just pointing out to you that what you may feel is just “trying to help” may come off as offensive if you’re being so explicit without even knowing someone or their story. Good luck on the trail and in the match!

 

[non-trad++]

Well you said I claimed to have “exceptional” interview skills when I never said such thing... I just said I have been told I interview well. You then said I was overconfident and displayed “fakery” like other professional speakers. Didn’t know that just because you speak for a living automatically makes you fake. Sounds like judgement fam. I’m never disengenious with my clients, ever.

No worries though, I’m not mad or anything. Just pointing out to you that what you may feel is just “trying to help” may come off as offensive if you’re being so explicit without even knowing someone or their story. Good luck on the trail and in the match!

I apologize. I realized then that I might've been off the mark and such.

To explain, I didn't mean to attribute all, if any, of those traits I mentioned to you specifically - I meant to say that unfortunetely you may have come across as such. Also, I used single quotes for 'exceptional' (meaning that it is my guess/assumption); and definitely was not sarcastic.

I totally understand your rightful reaction; I should've been much more careful and especially more sensitive while expressing my thoughts.
Lesson learned.

 

[libertyyne]

Hey guys please don't quote!

I am extremely lucky to have gotten 8 II's so far. Unfortunately my post-II success rate has been abysmal. 4 WL and 1 Post-II rejection. I had another interview today where my interviewer flat out told me I should consider Caribbean or DO schools because I am already a reapplicant. Is it too late for me to look into those?

I will comment about my interviews though. I'm a non-trad who's been working several years in the non-medical field in a sales related job. I basically speak for a living and have been involved in many very high-stakes interviews in the past; interviews where in my field 1/5 people would be chosen from an interview pool. From the feedback I have received from people higher up than me in my field, I have been told that I interview well. Because of this, I don't believe it is my interviews that are hurting me. I have generally felt decent about them (great at some schools) and gotten the WL hammer. I believe it is my grades that are holding me back (LM~68-69), even though it is at the average of most of these schools. Also, I went to a very small state school in a small state which some interviewers have commented on potentially hurting me as well.

At this point, should I begin preparing for next cycle again? I don't really know what my options are or what to do at this point. Slowly loosing hope.

Post interview rejection indicates Interview problem. You might have a poor self evaluation skills regarding your interviewing skills for medical school. Interview in other places =/= medical school admission interview. interviewing for goldman sachs is a different ball game.

 

[MDPedigree]

I apologize. I realized then that I might've been off the mark and such.

To explain, I didn't mean to attribute all, if any, of those traits I mentioned to you specifically - I meant to say that unfortunetely you may have come across as such. Also, I used single quotes for 'exceptional' (meaning that it is my guess/assumption); and definitely was not sarcastic.

I totally understand your rightful reaction; I should've been much more careful and especially more sensitive while expressing my thoughts.
Lesson learned.

Lol its okay bud! Not that serious! I appreciate the apology but I too probably shouldn't have been as sensitive. I posted this at a really difficult time for me so it was tough on me to take all the criticism that I have on this post. Just comes to show you that you gotta keep pushing no matter what people say, and hopefully things work themselves out in the end. I'm sure a fellow non-trad like yourself understands this all too well.

 

[MDPedigree]

Post interview rejection indicates Interview problem. You might have a poor self evaluation skills regarding your interviewing skills for medical school. Interview in other places =/= medical school admission interview. interviewing for goldman sachs is a different ball game.

I had one post-II R at a top 10 (nearly top 5) med school where my MCAT is either barely 10th percentile or under it (I can't remember). My interviewer told me my MCAT was a problem for X school, and that I was great for even receiving said interview. He was very transparent with me and told me although he will be writing me a good review, I had an uphill climb because of my MCAT . So my only post-II R(what you claim shows bad interviewing) came very expectedly and I have not gotten another post-II R out of 6 other schools I have heard from post-II (all 6 reject post-II, atleast on SDN).

If I had poor self-evaluation or interview skills, don't you think I probably would have gotten the ax from atleast 1/6?

 

[libertyyne]

I had one post-II R at a top 10 (nearly top 5) med school where my MCAT is either barely 10th percentile or under it (I can't remember). My interviewer told me my MCAT was a problem for X school, and that I was great for even receiving said interview. He was very transparent with me and told me although he will be writing me a good review, I had an uphill climb because of my MCAT. So my only post-II R(what you claim shows bad interviewing) came very expectedly and I have not gotten another post-II R out of 6 other schools I have heard from post-II (all 6 reject post-II, atleast on SDN).

If I had poor self-evaluation or interview skills, don't you think I probably would have gotten the ax from 1/6?

congrats on your acceptance. I am just pointing out that schools are not in the business of inviting someone, wasting interviewer time/resources on interviewing people they will actively reject. Its ok to be proud of your skills, but It is just something I would think about when interviewing for residency. I am curious how many of the II's you will convert to acceptances by traffic day, that might speak to your performance vs what the schools thought of you. and waitlist is as good as getting axed at some schools.