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I moved to Vegas last year to try to focus my efforts towards UNLV, now the whole town is talking about dropping the Dental program all together. My friend who is already in the program is petrified because he doesn't know what will happen to the ones already matriculating. He was told that whether it happens this year or next or even the next, he could be screwed.

what do you guys think, i'm pissed off for waisting the past year if the school is going to be dropped.
 

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wow i havent heard that one before, but if its true, it really sucks. best luck to you. do you have any public notices on that i.e newspaper articles or links?


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I moved to Vegas last year to try to focus my efforts towards UNLV, now the whole town is talking about dropping the Dental program all together. My friend who is already in the program is petrified because he doesn't know what will happen to the ones already matriculating. He was told that whether it happens this year or next or even the next, he could be screwed.

what do you guys think, i'm pissed off for waisting the past year if the school is going to be dropped.
 

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titan3035 said:
I moved to Vegas last year to try to focus my efforts towards UNLV, now the whole town is talking about dropping the Dental program all together. My friend who is already in the program is petrified because he doesn't know what will happen to the ones already matriculating. He was told that whether it happens this year or next or even the next, he could be screwed.

what do you guys think, i'm pissed off for waisting the past year if the school is going to be dropped.
What is the basis for the rumors? - Funding? Have your come across any 'reliable' evidence such as a newspaper article or official word from the school or those connected to it?
 

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I got a great laugh out of that article. The whole auto mechanics thing cracks me up. I know i take much better care of my car than i do my teeth, doesn't everyone?
 

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I got a great laugh out of that article. The whole auto mechanics thing cracks me up. I know i take much better care of my car than i do my teeth, doesn't everyone?

i still have not been able to access the link
 

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i still have not been able to access the link
Here it is:

REVIEWJOURNAL.COM

Thursday, March 03, 2005
Copyright © Las Vegas Review-Journal

Dental school seen as 'burden'

Lawmakers question further funding of UNLV program

By K.C. HOWARD
REVIEW-JOURNAL

Several lawmakers want to disband UNLV's dental school despite concerns that such a move would deprive low-income residents of oral health care.

"I just think we need to revisit the whole issue," Assemblywoman Chris Giunchigliani said Wednesday. "I think at this point it (the dental school) has become a burden on the state."

The dental school budget this year is $26.3 million. Of that, only $4.5 million is drawn from the state's general fund, UNLV President Carol Harter told a legislative finance committee Wednesday.

"The operation is a very large operation with the vast amount of the dollars coming from nonstate sources," Harter said. Clinic revenue funds much of the budget, and tuition is fairly high at $15,000 a year for Nevada residents, she said.

But Giunchigliani, D-Las Vegas, said state support will rise to $7.5 million next year and $7.7 million the following year, according to Gov. Kenny Guinn's proposed budget.

And with interim Chancellor Jim Rogers asking for hundreds of millions more than proposed in the governor's budget, extracting the dental school is becoming more appealing to lawmakers.

The state's lone dental school opened in fall 2002. Since then, the school has offered oral health care and education to about 150,000 people statewide, said Patrick Ferrillo, the school's dean. It has provided 12,000 students with dental education, screened 30,000 students for oral cancer and served about 90,000 Medicaid patients, he said.

But Giunchigliani said the Medicaid dollars that help fund the school could go to neighborhood dental clinics in underserved valley communities. "You don't need a school as a front for those clinics," she said in an interview.

Ferrillo noted that the school helps address the state's lagging ratio of dentists to residents. The 37 dentists per 100,000 people in Nevada is below the national average of 57 dentists per 100,000 residents, he said.

This fall, the school will have 300 students, Ferrillo said. He added that if UNLV's school closed, it would be difficult to find space for Nevada's dental students in the nation's other 56 dental schools.

But Las Vegas Republican Sens. Bob Beers and Sandra Tiffany said there is no shortage of dentists.

"It's hard to go two blocks in Summerlin and Green Valley and not see two or three," Beers said. "Meanwhile, we've got a car mechanics program at CCSN that's languishing for less than half of what we're spending on the dental school and a number of other higher education priorities that strike me as more important."

Both senators said resources devoted to the dental school would be better spent expanding the auto technology training program at the Community College of Southern Nevada, which needs $10 million for a new facility to train auto mechanics. The governor did not include the project in his proposed budget.

"There is a huge appetite for the auto technology training facility," said Sen. Barbara Cegavske, R-Las Vegas.

But Maury Astley, Nevada Dental Association executive director, said there's a dentist distribution problem in Southern Nevada. Dentists congregate in Summerlin and Green Valley instead of lower-income areas.


Review-Journal writer Sean Whaley contributed to this report.
 

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titan3035 said:
I moved to Vegas last year to try to focus my efforts towards UNLV, now the whole town is talking about dropping the Dental program all together. My friend who is already in the program is petrified because he doesn't know what will happen to the ones already matriculating. He was told that whether it happens this year or next or even the next, he could be screwed.

what do you guys think, i'm pissed off for waisting the past year if the school is going to be dropped.
Titan, relax.
I've heard the same thing, but it's just words, no action sign seems to be taken yet.
UNR and UNLV are fighting on district power, so UNR's pressuring UNLV to close down the dental program, but they are not gonna make it. Why? UNLV's opening up more departments such as the new ortho program.
On the other hand, even if they close down the school, all the students will be sent to another dental school, which is not bad either, hey, they are gonna pay for your partial tuition and you get to experience a new life.
 

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"There is a huge appetite for the auto technology training facility," said Sen. Barbara Cegavske, R-Las Vegas

YUMMMYYY....... seriously though, how are you current applicants and next cycle's applicants approaching this situation?? I'm just interested to know if UNLV has actually contacted their applicants about their impending doom.

For current UNLV dental students, this situation sure does throw a monkey wrench in their plans.... pun intended. I would get my transfer slip and go to a state where dental education is valued a little more than constructing a "auto technology training facility." I wonder if their medical school will have to be shut down to free up funds for a new cosmetology school.
 

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Rumors until action takes place. Legislators are ALWAYS talking things up, and rarely does anything come from it.

This same article has been discussed in the dental forum several times in the past couple of weeks.
 

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titan3035 said:
My friend who is already in the program is petrified because he doesn't know what will happen to the ones already matriculating. He was told that whether it happens this year or next or even the next, he could be screwed.
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Depends on the meaning of screwed. Students who matriculate into an accredited program (which UNLV is as far as at can be) will be given the opportunity to sit for board exams if a school goes under.
 

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I am a 3rd year at UNLV. This whole article makes me laugh...it is absurd, in my mind. The article was written 2 weeks ago and there has been no more talk about closing down the dental school. The only thing in the the two Las Vegas newspapers is letters to the editor supporting the school. This very same article was also discussed in an earlier thread two weeks ago.

Sen. Bob Beers also spoke exactly like this two years ago. Nothing happened. It is all political bantering. He wants to show his constituents that he is anti-tax. The majority...vast majority...of the legislators are for the dental school. They realize that the dental school provides three functions: First, it educates dentists for the state of Nevada. Second, it brings prestige to the Nevada University system as a doctoral granting program. Finally, it provides much needed oral health care to a very underserved population.

I, for one, am not worried one bit about the school closing down. I don't think any of my classmates are either. I can, however, see how it might be distressing to a new or prospective student.
 

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jrd29 said:
I am a 3rd year at UNLV. This whole article makes me laugh...it is absurd, in my mind. The article was written 2 weeks ago and there has been no more talk about closing down the dental school. The only thing in the the two Las Vegas newspapers is letters to the editor supporting the school. This very same article was also discussed in an earlier thread two weeks ago.

Sen. Bob Beers also spoke exactly like this two years ago. Nothing happened. It is all political bantering. He wants to show his constituents that he is anti-tax. The majority...vast majority...of the legislators are for the dental school. They realize that the dental school provides three functions: First, it educates dentists for the state of Nevada. Second, it brings prestige to the Nevada University system as a doctoral granting program. Finally, it provides much needed oral health care to a very underserved population.

I, for one, am not worried one bit about the school closing down. I don't think any of my classmates are either. I can, however, see how it might be distressing to a new or prospective student.
I did a search on the internet after reading titan3035's comments. It kinda bummed me out since I really want to go to UNLV. I hope that you are right and that the school is going to be around for a long time to come. The elected officials are idiots if they want to close a dental school to build a school for auto mechanics.
 

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I did a search on the internet after reading titan3035's comments. It kinda bummed me out since I really want to go to UNLV. I hope that you are right and that the school is going to be around for a long time to come. The elected officials are idiots if they want to close a dental school to build a school for auto mechanics.
You r in NY, so what particularly drives you into UNLV?
just curious
 

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Profchaos said:
You r in NY, so what particularly drives you into UNLV?
just curious
1. Weather
2. Being able to drive
3. Less traffic
4. Casinos!!! WooHooo!!!! ;)
 

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Listen to jrd29 (and other actualy UNLV students). They certainly know/receive vibes about what is happening.

I'd file this "article" under the "rumor" file and think nothing more of it.
 

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Da ObtURator said:
"There is a huge appetite for the auto technology training facility," said Sen. Barbara Cegavske, R-Las Vegas

YUMMMYYY....... seriously though, how are you current applicants and next cycle's applicants approaching this situation?? I'm just interested to know if UNLV has actually contacted their applicants about their impending doom.

For current UNLV dental students, this situation sure does throw a monkey wrench in their plans.... pun intended. I would get my transfer slip and go to a state where dental education is valued a little more than constructing a "auto technology training facility." I wonder if their medical school will have to be shut down to free up funds for a new cosmetology school.
I cant believe how naive some people on this forum are. Just because you read something on the internet does not mean its true.

I just came across this letter to the editor chastising the review journal for its wonderful reporting, the authors are UNLV's School president(not the dean of the dental school) and the chancellor of University system in nevada, two of the three highest ranking educational people in nevada.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/Mar-13-Sun-2005/opinion/781860.html
 

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I cant believe how naive some people on this forum are. Just because you read something on the internet does not mean its true.

I just came across this letter to the editor chastising the review journal for its wonderful reporting, the authors are UNLV's School president(not the dean of the dental school) and the chancellor of University system in nevada, two of the three highest ranking educational people in nevada.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/Mar-13-Sun-2005/opinion/781860.html
Isn't that on the internet too? :p

Sorry, couldn't resist. ;)

Most resistance to UNLV's dental school seems to come from dentists in Las Vegas. Sure, they claim that they're running a bad dental school, but I really think it comes down to the threat it poses to their profit margin and patient pool. Nevada dentists have already been encroached upon by new licensing procedures (if you practice 5 years elsewhere, you can practice in Nevada without taking its notoriously difficult boards), and the dental school is an even bigger threat, both with its clinical output and with the new dentists it'll be pumping into the community.

I was really impressed with the school when I interviewed - I'd be shocked if they were shut down. I think UNLV is an up-and-coming dental school.