[Non-Trad] When to apply?

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Hi Everyone,
I'm a to-be non-traditional applicant (26 rn), and I was wondering whether I should apply in 2025 or 2026. My GPA is around 3.85, and I previously scored in the 95th percentile for the MCAT, so I expect I'll do fine on the DAT provided I take it very seriously.

Background:

I have all the prerequisite coursework completed from when I was in college, and I'm not starting totally from scratch since I was once going to apply to medical school. I also have a lot of research experience and some publications. Of course, I understand the two routes are different, and I understand the importance of shadowing and doing volunteer work to better acquaint myself with dentistry before I apply.

I'm confident in building enough hours of shadowing/patient experience to, at least, match other applicants, on paper, if I apply in 2025. However, I'm aware an extra year will make me more competitive and solidified as an applicant as opposed to cramming it in.

Additionally, I don't want to retake coursework, and I don't want to take on a full-time dentistry-related job (part-time is doable only if it would very significantly help my chances). I am also not worried about any cost-benefit analysis. I only plan on applying once.

My main concern is that the age of my coursework already limits my options, and applying in 2026 will limit my options even further due to 10-year expiration dates (some programs have no expiration- I've already contacted schools to ask). As a non-trad applicant with less prep work compared to other applicants, I'm aware my chances of admission are that much lower, so I'm worried about being limited to mostly competitive programs if I apply in 2026. I would also very much rather matriculate when I'm 28 rather than 29.

I'm worried that my chance of admission would be very low in 2025. However, I don't know if the increased range of schools would be better than a more solid application to fewer, maybe more competitive schools. To be clear, I'd like my 2025 chances to lean more toward "Yeah, I feel like that could reasonably work out if you don't have high expectations" rather than "There's a possibility, but I wouldn't count on it."

Summary:

I can be ready to apply in either 2025 or 2026, but my already limited options will become even fewer if I wait for 2026. I'm willing to take a hit on my admission chances as long as they wouldn't be clearly bad if I applied in 2025.

Tl;dr:

2025: more schools, less solid application (crammed)
2026: fewer schools, schools may be more competitive, more solid application (semi-spread out)

Thank you for reading this long post. I apologize if I come off as ignorant (I am) or abrasive. I would greatly appreciate any advice or suggestions.



For reference, the following schools have no expiration on coursework:
  • University of Kentucky
  • Midwestern University (AZ and IL)
  • Tufts
  • University of Iowa
  • Kansas City University
  • University of Nevada Las Vegas
  • University of Lousiville
  • University of Michigan
  • University of Pennsylvania
As I'm new to this, I don't know how competitive they are considered (even after looking at admission rates)

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Currently none related to dentistry. I wanted to go into healthcare in a way I would be more independent, and I like the hands-on nature and the fact that you can more directly see the impact you have as a dentist. My references don't know yet. When I tell them depends on when I apply.
 
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Hi Everyone,
I'm a to-be non-traditional applicant (26 rn), and I was wondering whether I should apply in 2025 or 2026. My GPA is around 3.85, and I previously scored in the 95th percentile for the MCAT, so I expect I'll do fine on the DAT provided I take it very seriously.

Background:

I have all the prerequisite coursework completed from when I was in college, and I'm not starting totally from scratch since I was once going to apply to medical school. I also have a lot of research experience and some publications. Of course, I understand the two routes are different, and I understand the importance of shadowing and doing volunteer work to better acquaint myself with dentistry before I apply.

I'm confident in building enough hours of shadowing/patient experience to, at least, match other applicants, on paper, if I apply in 2025. However, I'm aware an extra year will make me more competitive and solidified as an applicant as opposed to cramming it in.

Additionally, I don't want to retake coursework, and I don't want to take on a full-time dentistry-related job (part-time is doable only if it would very significantly help my chances). I am also not worried about any cost-benefit analysis. I only plan on applying once.

My main concern is that the age of my coursework already limits my options, and applying in 2026 will limit my options even further due to 10-year expiration dates (some programs have no expiration- I've already contacted schools to ask). As a non-trad applicant with less prep work compared to other applicants, I'm aware my chances of admission are that much lower, so I'm worried about being limited to mostly competitive programs if I apply in 2026. I would also very much rather matriculate when I'm 28 rather than 29.

I'm worried that my chance of admission would be very low in 2025. However, I don't know if the increased range of schools would be better than a more solid application to fewer, maybe more competitive schools. To be clear, I'd like my 2025 chances to lean more toward "Yeah, I feel like that could reasonably work out if you don't have high expectations" rather than "There's a possibility, but I wouldn't count on it."

Summary:

I can be ready to apply in either 2025 or 2026, but my already limited options will become even fewer if I wait for 2026. I'm willing to take a hit on my admission chances as long as they wouldn't be clearly bad if I applied in 2025.

Tl;dr:

2025: more schools, less solid application (crammed)
2026: fewer schools, schools may be more competitive, more solid application (semi-spread out)

Thank you for reading this long post. I apologize if I come off as ignorant (I am) or abrasive. I would greatly appreciate any advice or suggestions.



For reference, the following schools have no expiration on coursework:
  • University of Kentucky
  • Midwestern University (AZ and IL)
  • Tufts
  • University of Iowa
  • Kansas City University
  • University of Nevada Las Vegas
  • University of Lousiville
  • University of Michigan
  • University of Pennsylvania
As I'm new to this, I don't know how competitive they are considered (even after looking at admission rates)
it would be easier to help if you filled out a full WAMC tempate...
 
Thanks for the suggestion. I've included the relevant parts (where I have info) of the template. For reference, I was considered a strong applicant for medicine- I specifically lack dentistry-related experiences and a DAT score. The only difference between 2025 and 2026 will be how spread out my activities are and not necessarily the number of hours.

State: Missouri
Major: molecular biology, economics
Minor: Chinese
Minority? No
Nontrad? Yes
Shadowing Experience: 0 dental
Volunteering Experience: ~30-50 patient care, 0 dental
Research: 1000+, 3 publications, a couple of poster presentations
Other Extracurriculars: Started 2 clubs, was an undergraduate mentor, etc
Have you volunteered/shadowed/attended events at any dental schools? No
Relevant Honors or Awards: undergraduate research grant, phi beta kappa, Dean's list multiple times
 
I do have over 100 hours community service- just not all of it is directly patient-related. None of it is dental related. I understand that I need dental experience, but is it typical for an applicant to have hundreds of hours or is it because I'm not traditional? For example, with medicine, a hundred hours of shadowing is on the high end. After ~50-80 hours, it's redundant. Volunteering uses a similar metric and where clinical volunteering is usually less than half of all volunteering.

I noticed a lot of dental schools tend to teeter around recommending 100 hours of shadowing (I don't know about volunteering).

Additionally, pretend I get 200-300 hours of dental experience by May, would my chances still be so low in 2025 compared to 2026 that I shouldn't bother applying in 2025?
 
I do have over 100 hours community service- just not all of it is directly patient-related. None of it is dental related. I understand that I need dental experience, but is it typical for an applicant to have hundreds of hours or is it because I'm not traditional? For example, with medicine, a hundred hours of shadowing is on the high end. After ~50-80 hours, it's redundant. Volunteering uses a similar metric and where clinical volunteering is usually less than half of all volunteering.

I noticed a lot of dental schools tend to teeter around recommending 100 hours of shadowing (I don't know about volunteering).

Additionally, pretend I get 200-300 hours of dental experience by May, would my chances still be so low in 2025 compared to 2026 that I shouldn't bother applying in 2025?
What is your 100 hours of community service about? Just describe without judgment.
 
In order of most hours to least:
  • Student mentor for undergraduate Economic majors (career and academic)
  • Volunteer crisis counselor (crisis hotline- people feeling overwhelmed or suicidal would text in and we would help calm them down or escalate cases in case of immediate harm)
  • Volunteer member in a physical therapy program where we would take lead on designing and physically help carry out a workout/rehab program for physically disabled clients
  • Volunteer with a hospice organization (spending time with patients)
  • Volunteer member of a class's board of directors (discussed with students and brought suggestions to professor/helped around)
 
In order of most hours to least:
  • Student mentor for undergraduate Economic majors (career and academic)
  • Volunteer crisis counselor (crisis hotline- people feeling overwhelmed or suicidal would text in and we would help calm them down or escalate cases in case of immediate harm)
  • Volunteer member in a physical therapy program where we would take lead on designing and physically help carry out a workout/rehab program for physically disabled clients
  • Volunteer with a hospice organization (spending time with patients)
  • Volunteer member of a class's board of directors (discussed with students and brought suggestions to professor/helped around)

"Most hours to least"??? You have 100 total hours... an actual breakdown of the hours is helpful.

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For all I know, the breakdown is 90, 4, 3, 2, 1.
 
I checked and had more hours than I remembered- it's been a while so I forgot. The most hours were spent on crisis counseling. The board of directors role was in 2017, crisis counseling was 2020-2021, the rest were in 2019-2020.
  • crisis counseling (200 hours)
  • mentorship (120 hours)
  • physical therapy (30 hours)
  • hospice (15 hours)
  • board of director (8 hours)
 
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