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Is it just me or is there not enough room in these short white coats?

I put a penlight, reflex hammer, small notebook/ clipboard, otoscope and there is barely enough room to fit one of those pocket reference books. Also, it's very uncomfortable sitting with all that stuff in your pocket. Maybe I should get a fanny pack or utility belt...
 
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Is it just me or is there not enough room in these short white coats?

I put a penlight, reflex hammer, small notebook/ clipboard, otoscope and there is barely enough room to fit one of those pocket reference book. Also, it's very uncomfortable sitting with at that stuff in your pocket. Maybe I should get a fanny pack or utility belt...

Maybe your white coats are smaller than ours... On surgery I had my two pocket reference books, case files, recall, two pairs of trauma shears, tape, dressings, a needle driver, adson, suture scissors, 14 ga angio cath and like 20 packs of suture, my steth, reflex hammer, penlight, pens, and white coat clipboard and usually had some granola bars and a 20 oz soda in my white coat, that's w/o using the breast pocket bc it's worn through.
 
I pretty much finished all of my rotations with only my stethoscope and a reference book. Plus a light pen and sometimes a small notepad.

The hospital provides the rest.
 
Notepads? Don't you guys have about 20 folded signout sheets in your pocket, one side covered in PHI, the other in scratched lab values and reminders?
 
I just kept a copy of the days progress notes in my clipboard plus one sheet with the pt list. We hardly ever saw our pts after morning rounds on surgery unless we were on call, in the OR all the time.
 
a guy in my class added 2 pockets in the back of his coat....looked awful but it worked for him
 
a guy in my class added 2 pockets in the back of his coat....looked awful but it worked for him

Be careful, pack mule syndrome, as I call it, is not a sign of preparedness, its a sign of unsuredness. The more you have on you, the more you say "I can't handle what comes my way, so i need more to be prepared." I know many people will not agree with me, after seeing the ER attending with literally every tool in his pockets... But if you don't believe me, think about a resident that impressed you. Knew his patients without looking at a list. Confident with presentations, savy with patients. What did that person have on him? Probably a moleskin, a pen, and patient list.

That being said, there certain things that are essential to have.

You have got to have a pen or two (your resident may steal one), a stethoscope, some way to track patient data, and a pocket book to read. Beyond that, extra equipment just isn't necessary. Think about the tools you will actually be using, and see if they actually matter.

The reflex hammer, for example, is silly (unless you're on neuro). Every patient every time does not need a deep tendon reflex. Its thorough, but likely not relevant. Besides, the edge of the stethoscope works just fine for the knees.

You carry your own otoscope? They aren't on the wall? Do you actually do otoscopic exams on patients admitted to the hospital (like everyday on rounds)? If you want to be super cool, you could free up space in your white coat by having a holster (police officer mag-lite holster works well) on your waist. But honestly, lose the otoscope, you really don't need to lug it around.

My rig right now: two pens and my cell phone / epocrates on my breast, a moleskin behind pocket medicine on my right, stethoscope around my shoulders, and a free pocket on the left to accept whatever ridiculousness comes my way (such as carrying order sheets, to do lists, etc.). Occasionally, it has some candy bar or some other nutritional supplement.
 
end of third year and I don't even use my coat anymore (unless I'm wearing scrubs w/o pockets). got two pens, a penlight and my phone (w/ medscape and a couple of books on it) in my pockets and a stethoscope around my neck. Plus a couple of blank sheets of paper and I'm good.
 
There was a thread a few months ago kind of on the topic about what med students need to carry. During medicine and surgery if you were to look at me it was:


............................Pens/Penlight
............................VIA packets/TrueLemon


(Inside)..................(Inside)
Granola bars............Reflex hammer (sometimes)
Gum.......................Random papers from lectures

Stethoscope............Signouts
.............................Random quick reference cards they gave us

My phone generally migrated between pockets as convenient, often just in my pants. My biggest problem was remembering to throw signouts into the shred bins.
 
end of third year and I don't even use my coat anymore (unless I'm wearing scrubs w/o pockets). got two pens, a penlight and my phone (w/ medscape and a couple of books on it) in my pockets and a stethoscope around my neck. Plus a couple of blank sheets of paper and I'm good.

If Im not on a hospital service (i.e. I dont HAVE to wear white coat) I dont at all. Then its a pen, a stethoscope, my phone, and my wallet.
 
Maybe your white coats are smaller than ours... On surgery I had my two pocket reference books, case files, recall, two pairs of trauma shears, tape, dressings, a needle driver, adson, suture scissors, 14 ga angio cath and like 20 packs of suture, my steth, reflex hammer, penlight, pens, and white coat clipboard and usually had some granola bars and a 20 oz soda in my white coat, that's w/o using the breast pocket bc it's worn through.

:laugh: <-- your resident
 
Maybe your white coats are smaller than ours... On surgery I had my two pocket reference books, case files, recall, two pairs of trauma shears, tape, dressings, a needle driver, adson, suture scissors, 14 ga angio cath and like 20 packs of suture, my steth, reflex hammer, penlight, pens, and white coat clipboard and usually had some granola bars and a 20 oz soda in my white coat, that's w/o using the breast pocket bc it's worn through.

Seriously? Please tell me someone secretly took a pic of you wearing all that $@#& on rounds...and if so, please post it.
 
Seriously? Please tell me someone secretly took a pic of you wearing all that $@#& on rounds...and if so, please post it.

it's all about packing effectively! It isn't even that particularly bulky. I'm on psych now, so I don't even wear one now 🙂
 
Be careful when you overpack patient information in your white coat. Sometimes you'll lose it on the floor. Chances are no one will care, but once in a blue moon, losing PHI will come back to bite you, heh.
 
I was with the minimal crowd on this one..... phone, pt census/signout list, maybe a reflex hammer, stethoscope, pens, light, and then a few random papers/quick reference cards depending on what service I'm on. Most of my pocket type reference books are on my phone. On cardio I had some calipers and some other some tools on neuro but that was it. In the past 2 years there has been only 1 instance while on my sub-I where my team needed an otoscope and there wasn't one on the floor, so I just walked back to my dorm and got mine.

I couldn't imagine carrying multiple books plus multiple instruments like otoscope, drivers, suture, etc... Did you use any of that stuff? Was there a situation where you needed some 5-0 ethilon or a non-sterile needle driver and couldn't wait the couple minutes for someone to get some?
 
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