Note: The MCAT did not RAPE you

[CoffeeCat]

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Okay, this is a problem I have with this forum and it's quite possibly only me, but rape is not a word to be used lightly and if you can refrain from using the word when referring to how poorly you did on the MCAT, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!!

 

[JustR]

Okay, this is a problem I have with this forum and it's quite possibly only me, but rape is not a word to be used lightly and if you can refrain from using the word when referring to how poorly you did on the MCAT, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!!

MCAT rapped me???? sorry but

 

[DrPersistent]

Okay, this is a problem I have with this forum and it's quite possibly only me, but rape is not a word to be used lightly and if you can refrain from using the word when referring to how poorly you did on the MCAT, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!!

I agree. Not a word to be used loosely. If I mess up and say it, please slap me

 

[McGillGrad]

Is this thread about the use of the word 'rape' or the inability of some people to admit that they (not the exam) is to blame for their final numbers?

 

[sweetstuff25]

verbal reasoning screwed me real hard.

 

[DrBowtie]

rape ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rp)
n.
1. The crime of forcing another person to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse.

2. The act of seizing and carrying off by force; abduction.
3. Abusive or improper treatment; violation: a rape of justice.

I think this definition could fit in context to the MCAT.

 

[OwnageMobile]

rape ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rp)
n.
1. The crime of forcing another person to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse.

2. The act of seizing and carrying off by force; abduction.
3. Abusive or improper treatment; violation: a rape of justice.

I think this definition could fit in context to the MCAT.

:SNAP! Smilie:

 

[Nikki2002]

Okay, this is a problem I have with this forum and it's quite possibly only me, but rape is not a word to be used lightly and if you can refrain from using the word when referring to how poorly you did on the MCAT, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!!

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[pseudoknot]

Is this thread about the use of the word 'rape' or the inability of some people to admit that they (not the exam) is to blame for their final numbers?

I agree that both are offensive, though the first much more so.

 

[CoffeeCat]

Is this thread about the use of the word 'rape' or the inability of some people to admit that they (not the exam) is to blame for their final numbers?

I intended it to be the first!

verbal reasoning screwed me real hard.

🙂 Better...

 

[JustR]

Seriously, MCAT can put someone under stress as much as a rape would.

Check this article out on RAPE theories.
http://www.law.asu.edu/default.aspx?id=8302

 

[Nikki2002]

Seriously, MCAT can put someone under stress as much as a rape would.

Check this article out on RAPE theories.
http://www.law.asu.edu/default.aspx?id=8302

JustR---that makes no sense---omg honestly

 

[seadizzle]

Seriously, MCAT can put someone under stress as much as a rape would.

You make me sick. This is completely false.

 

[MeowMix]

Thank you, OP.

 

[JustR]

JustR---that makes no sense---omg honestly

That makes sense. Have you been raped before? Have you taken the MCAT? Two questions have to be combined for a person to understand this statement or the article whatever you want to call it. It is really stressful though. Taking Mcat is no baby’s game, I tell ya.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I have to agree and that phrase really bothers me. I've heard it here on the boards and I overheard some girl use it to describe her performance on a bleepin' music exam. It is a huge insult to anyone who's ever had to deal with being sexually violated by another person in a physical, social and emotional level. If you think that rape is equivalent to doing bad on a test, GET A GRIP!!
The truth is that not everyone who wants to be a doctor gets to be one. But for pete's sake, do NOT trivialize being raped because you faced a stumbling block (albeit a difficult one) in your journeys to meet your goals.

 

[Scewby Doo 1973]

I agree that both are offensive, though the first much more so.

is there a way to find out your raw score?

 

[gujuDoc]

Is this thread about the use of the word 'rape' or the inability of some people to admit that they (not the exam) is to blame for their final numbers?

It is about the INAPPROPRIATENESS of the word RAPE as seen by the Original Poster's view point.

 

[Em1]

Seriously, MCAT can put someone under stress as much as a rape would.

My best friend from high school was raped during her freshman year of college (almost 3 years ago)

The MCAT, or any other test for that matter, doesn't come ANYWHERE NEAR what she went through and what she is still having to dealing with. End of story.

 

[gujuDoc]

Seriously, MCAT can put someone under stress as much as a rape would.

Check this article out on RAPE theories.
http://www.law.asu.edu/default.aspx?id=8302

JustR, YOU ARE WRONG to say that MCAT = SAME STRESS AS RAPE.

Rape is a violation of one's body by some other perverted individual. A lot of people who get raped never get over the emotional pain and often it causes some very very very very distressful psychological traumas because of it, as well as sometimes, some very detrimental physical scars like when a 5 year old is raped and can't control her bladder because her insides are completely ripped up.

I used to know someone for whom this happened to and it made me want to cry hearing about it.

Furthermore, if Rape leads to pregnancy it is even worse, because then you get put in an even greater dillemma. For instance, say someone molest you that is your relative. You don't want to keep the baby, but then you don't want to kill it either because it is an innocent victim in the affair.

These things are in NO WAY COMPARABLE TO MCAT STRESS!!!!!!!

You really really really need to take some time away from SDN and some time to think about your MCAT. But Please STOP making such comments and comparing everything to your MCAT score.

I'm going to tell you a little story:

The first time I took the MCAT, I got 18L, with 6's across the board. I did not cry, even though I was upset about it. I realized that I got what was coming my way because I took the wrong approach to studying and studied my butt off. My Verbal stayed the same due to nerves, but my Sciences went up 3 pts each. I will take it one more time, but the point is I went up 6 points overall, because I studied heaven and hell.

When things don't go the way you want, you pick up the pieces of your shattered life and clean up the mess and take some time to fix your problems by taking a different approach to things.

But this statement that MCAT is comparable to RAPE is just SICKENING. 👎 👎 👎

 

[gujuDoc]

You make me sick. This is completely false.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JustR,

As a woman, I thought you would have more common sense to realize what the reality of RAPE really is.

 

[NapeSpikes]

Ehh, I don't care for the phrase either, but everyone should know it's not meant to trivialize a real rape experience.

Consider the phrase, "The MCAT killed me" or "The MCAT kicked my arse," or something similar. Who gets roused up over that? They're just slang terms, and survivors of loved ones killed by homicide or physical assault victims don't take it personally. By using such phrases, are we making light of these horrendous crimes? I doubt it.

 

[gujuDoc]

Ehh, I don't care for the phrase either, but everyone should know it's not meant to trivialize a real rape experience.

Consider the phrase, "The MCAT killed me" or "The MCAT kicked my arse," or something similar. Who gets roused up over that? They're just slang terms, and survivors of loved ones killed by homicide or physical assault victims don't take it personally. By saying these phrases, are we making light of these horrendous crimes? I doubt it.

You can't compare the two, because being killed could connotate something other then murder, such as being killed during a natural disaster.

On the other hand, RAPE, clear cut and dry refers to someone who has been sexually assaulted.

 

[DrBowtie]

You can't compare the two, because being killed could connotate something other then murder, such as being killed during a natural disaster.

On the other hand, RAPE, clear cut and dry refers to someone who has been sexually assaulted.

Obviously it isn't since I provided 2 alternate definitions above.

 

[gujuDoc]

Obviously it isn't since I provided 2 alternate definitions above.

Well seeing that it is NOT definition 2, and DEFINITION 3 does not apply as much as you like to think so,

I don't think your point has much validity.

No one is violated by the MCAT. No one is treated improperly, unless they are in a position like Dr. Who MD who really did get abused by the conditions.

Most people, are given fair testing centers and all are given an equal chance. How a person does is based on their own individual intelligence, level of preparation, and other factors. But I don't think it is as fair to put it in category 3, because that is simply not true.

 

[DrBowtie]

Nonetheless, if you think it applies or not I was trying to point out that people don't think about alternate definitions of words. Rape is automatically thought of as a sexual act.

As can be seen on many threads people think that the MCAT is unfair. hence a "rape of fairness" as per definition could apply in their opinion.

Edit: I am not trying to trivialize someone being raped but it is a figure of speech meaning "domination"

 

[abcxyz0123]

Well seeing that it is NOT definition 2, and DEFINITION 3 does not apply as much as you like to think so,

I don't think your point has much validity.

No one is violated by the MCAT. No one is treated improperly, unless they are in a position like Dr. Who MD who really did get abused by the conditions.

Most people, are given fair testing centers and all are given an equal chance. How a person does is based on their own individual intelligence, level of preparation, and other factors. But I don't think it is as fair to put it in category 3, because that is simply not true.

do yourself a favor and stop making yourself look dumber by continuing to post. just leave the issue alone.

 

[tanksljp]

I dont know about y'all, but when I was taking the PS section I felt like I was in a gas chamber. Anybody esle have a similar experience? Just kidding...anyway, the mcat didn't rape me, rather someone raped me with a rolled up mcat. My real question is, how should I go about communicating that fact? I guess technically it's false to say the mcat raped me, but honestly, who would even think that an inanimate object would sexually violate someone? For future reference, if someone says the mcat raped him, he means that he was an unwilling partner in a sex act that involved an mcat testing booklet and/or answer sheet.

 

[tank you]

you guys/gals are too weird, even for premeds

 

[tank you]

Seriously, MCAT can put someone under stress as much as a rape would.

omg i cant believe you said that

 

[Nikki2002]

gujudoc--you are so awesome!! 👍

 

[Nikki2002]

That makes sense. Have you been raped before? Have you taken the MCAT? Two questions have to be combined for a person to understand this statement or the article whatever you want to call it. It is really stressful though. Taking Mcat is no baby’s game, I tell ya.

yeah--don't just randomly ask people if they have been raped. Where I volunteer, I work with tiny children who have been sexually abused and it nearly kills me to do it--somehow I don't think I am as stressed as they are.

 

[JustR]

JustR, YOU ARE WRONG to say that MCAT = SAME STRESS AS RAPE.

But this statement that MCAT is comparable to RAPE is just SICKENING. 👎 👎 👎

I totally disagree with your statements, Guju. But I am getting late for my classes. More, I have to catch my train on time, and it a bit long ride to school. But I will catch ya later about this. 😀

 

[gujuDoc]

I totally disagree with your statements, Guju. But I am getting late for my classes. More, I have to catch my train on time, and it a bit long ride to school. But I will catch ya later about this. 😀

How can you even compare the two?????? You asked if anyone of us have gone through, Rape, so let me ask you.......have you been through it?????? I highly doubt it.

I have never been raped, but I did volunteer at a shelter where abused children were, most of whom were sexually raped over and over and over again. It causes all sorts of physical and mental problems in the kids. The people they were supposed to trust with their life violated them in the worst of ways, and the problems that those children were going through was heartbreaking. Some of these kids were as young as 5 years old, while others were in their teens.

 

[gujuDoc]

Nonetheless, if you think it applies or not I was trying to point out that people don't think about alternate definitions of words. Rape is automatically thought of as a sexual act.

As can be seen on many threads people think that the MCAT is unfair. hence a "rape of fairness" as per definition could apply in their opinion.

Edit: I am not trying to trivialize someone being raped but it is a figure of speech meaning "domination"

Ok, sorry, I didn't get what I was trying to say across properly last night. So disregard that post. It was late at night, and I didn't word it as clearly as I was trying to do so.

I see your point, and I understand that you are not trying to trivialize it. So I apologize.

I guess I got a bit p'd off because while you were not trivializing it, some other posters on here were doing so, and I took it out on you. So again, I apologize.

I just don't feel comfortable with the use of the word to describe the MCAT.

 

[gujuDoc]

I totally disagree with your statements, Guju. But I am getting late for my classes. More, I have to catch my train on time, and it a bit long ride to school. But I will catch ya later about this. 😀

You really need to get a GRIP ON REALITY!!!!!

Your MCAT score was low, because you NEED improvement in your Verbal Reasoning. Improvement comes by practice and by reading a lot. Reading books about philosophy, natural science, economics, etc. It comes by finding the techniques that work best for you.

You have other options of doing things like Carribbean school or DO schools, or doing a postbac program or taking a year off to study for the MCAT.

You are still in denial and still in shock.

A poster on here took the MCAT 6 TIMES. They ended up with a 30 on that 6th try and got into an MD school at EVMS. Look up their post. The guys name was Fusion on here. he's at EVMS now.

This process is tough, but you are comparing it to something as bad as almost being killed by someone. That is not the same thing by any means and you need to stop posting such inane garbage.

 

[CoffeeCat]

Nonetheless, if you think it applies or not I was trying to point out that people don't think about alternate definitions of words. Rape is automatically thought of as a sexual act.

As can be seen on many threads people think that the MCAT is unfair. hence a "rape of fairness" as per definition could apply in their opinion.

Edit: I am not trying to trivialize someone being raped but it is a figure of speech meaning "domination"

Exactly, people don't think about alternate definitions of the word - this is life, not the GRE.

When a distraught patient comes into your examination room and says "I was raped", are you going to say "ha, ha, by what - justice, a test? Hey, let me tell you about the time I was raped..."

 

[little_late_MD]

When a distraught patient comes into your examination room and says "I was raped", are you going to say "ha, ha, by what - justice, a test? Hey, let me tell you about the time I was raped..."

I think that you as a potential doctor are intelligent enough to understand there is a difference in context there.

 

[CUarzt]

"Uh oh. Sounds like somebody's got a case of the Mondays."

im gonna need you to get out from behind your pc (both the personal and political one) . . . yeeeahh, thanks. 😎

 

[DrPersistent]

Seriously, MCAT can put someone under stress as much as a rape would.

Check this article out on RAPE theories.
http://www.law.asu.edu/default.aspx?id=8302

I would disagree...

 

[DrPersistent]

That makes sense. Have you been raped before? Have you taken the MCAT? Two questions have to be combined for a person to understand this statement or the article whatever you want to call it. It is really stressful though. Taking Mcat is no baby’s game, I tell ya.

I know someone who was molested as a child and took the MCAT. She got a 21 on her MCAT, yes she did horrible and she felt really bad that she did bad. But being raped or anything close to that doesnt come close to doing bad on a test...

Do bad on the MCAT retake it or go to the carribean

Get raped..from what I hear there are no do overs, its over.

Im not trying to be a jack ass R, but I did horrible on the MCAT also, and I would never ever ever compare it to rape.

 

[DrPersistent]

JustR, YOU ARE WRONG to say that MCAT = SAME STRESS AS RAPE.

Rape is a violation of one's body by some other perverted individual. A lot of people who get raped never get over the emotional pain and often it causes some very very very very distressful psychological traumas because of it, as well as sometimes, some very detrimental physical scars like when a 5 year old is raped and can't control her bladder because her insides are completely ripped up.

I used to know someone for whom this happened to and it made me want to cry hearing about it.

Furthermore, if Rape leads to pregnancy it is even worse, because then you get put in an even greater dillemma. For instance, say someone molest you that is your relative. You don't want to keep the baby, but then you don't want to kill it either because it is an innocent victim in the affair.

These things are in NO WAY COMPARABLE TO MCAT STRESS!!!!!!!

You really really really need to take some time away from SDN and some time to think about your MCAT. But Please STOP making such comments and comparing everything to your MCAT score.

I'm going to tell you a little story:

The first time I took the MCAT, I got 18L, with 6's across the board. I did not cry, even though I was upset about it. I realized that I got what was coming my way because I took the wrong approach to studying and studied my butt off. My Verbal stayed the same due to nerves, but my Sciences went up 3 pts each. I will take it one more time, but the point is I went up 6 points overall, because I studied heaven and hell.

When things don't go the way you want, you pick up the pieces of your shattered life and clean up the mess and take some time to fix your problems by taking a different approach to things.

But this statement that MCAT is comparable to RAPE is just SICKENING. 👎 👎 👎

👍

I agree with you Guju, except that I cried.

 

[DrPersistent]

Nonetheless, if you think it applies or not I was trying to point out that people don't think about alternate definitions of words. Rape is automatically thought of as a sexual act.

As can be seen on many threads people think that the MCAT is unfair. hence a "rape of fairness" as per definition could apply in their opinion.

Edit: I am not trying to trivialize someone being raped but it is a figure of speech meaning "domination"

Well said Brett, I agree that many times we do not consider alternate definitions, myself included. I think "rape" just hits people the wrong way. Its just my opinion that it shouldn't be used in that context. But your point is well stated and I do agree.

 

[JustR]

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JustR,

As a woman, I thought you would have more common sense to realize what the reality of RAPE really is.

Well, why not. I am a female so I would understand how stressful a rap could be if it affected me or anyone in the society in anyway what so ever. Sexual assaults are major problems in the society. Similarly, in my point of view, for a pre-med, taking an MCAT after studying really hard for it; and getting only couples of points at the end of the exam is almost the same event. Child molestation could impact on one’s life similarly. Have you seen that rape could be a huge psychological factor on one’s life? Do you watch Dr. Phil ever on the TV? There are lots of issues in the society are still needs to be justified though. Everyone says that we live in a mordern life, but no one knows or have a clear defination on what a mordern life is all about.

 

[JustR]

I know someone who was molested as a child and took the MCAT. She got a 21 on her MCAT, yes she did horrible and she felt really bad that she did bad. But being raped or anything close to that doesnt come close to doing bad on a test...

Do bad on the MCAT retake it or go to the carribean

Get raped..from what I hear there are no do overs, its over.

Im not trying to be a jack ass R, but I did horrible on the MCAT also, and I would never ever ever compare it to rape.

Well, I took it third time last august, and I still ended up with below 20, and I am so mad about the fact that I freaking improved on my sciences. And I know I can read clearly and completely and those 9s proves that I know how to read. Then if I don’t know how to read then there is no way that I got 9s on the sciences and two on those verbal. I am so mad because I have worked really hard to get a good score on that last MCAT. What did I end up with? 2 on verbal? Not my fault. It is just that freaking God in the platonic world has his weird hands on top of me, so that some street guy played music in the back and I did so badly on the verbal. Not all test centers are equally managed. The AMCAS does not even consider that fact on giving someone scores based on the fact reported to them. They did not give me any consideration on my score curving because it won’t be justifiable to the other students. My focus was completely rattled by those wonderful tunes that I had played, and I ended up with 2 on my verbal. Nothing I can do about it. It was just a bad luck and one of those bad days that ruined my life completely for a year. This does not change the fact that I want to be a doctor. ALL OF YOU did not have that happened. Most of you have not taken the MCAT like me and studied like I did. You all are not under the same circumstances. You all don't not understand what I am going through. You are not in the same shoes as I am so you don’t know what is being dragged at the end of my shoes and what kind of stress I am all over covered in with. And, that’s the reason you all don't see my earlier point of comparing MCAT taking to the RAPE event for a women.

 

[BeatValley]

How can this subject be debated????? People confuse me.

 

[doctorJP]

I think that rape is the most heinous of all crimes, equivalent to murder, and I think the penalties should be the same. Unfortunately here in Canada, you can murder someone and get 10 years in a minimum security prison (on the front page of the newspaper today).

I think the issue here is not what rape is, because we all know its horrible, its what the word means to us. I think it means a lot more to a girl than to a guy, for obvious reasons, as well as to someone who knows a person who has been through the ordeal. I can probably think back to times when I used the word in context of definition 3 and never thought twice about it. Points are valid on both sides of the discussion going on here, but in the end I don't believe anybody is trying belittle the crime, its more or less one of those words that made it into mainstream english slang and its hard to convince everybody they are using the word out of context, when in their mind they aren't saying anything wrong.

 

[dsh]

A buddy of mine just got his scores back. When I asked him how he did, he told me "I bent that test over and had my way with it." I thought that that was pretty funny, given the context.

 

[seadizzle]

Well, I took it third time last august, and I still ended up with below 20, and I am so mad about the fact that I freaking improved on my sciences. And I know I can read clearly and completely and those 9s proves that I know how to read. Then if I don’t know how to read then there is no way that I got 9s on the sciences and two on those verbal. I am so mad because I have worked really hard to get a good score on that last MCAT. What did I end up with 2 on verbal? Not my fault. It is just that freaking God about in the platonic world has his weird hands on top of me, so that some street guy played music in the back and I did so badly on the verbal. Not all test centers are equally managed. The AMCAS does not even consider that fact on giving someone scores based on the fact reported to them. They did not give me any consideration on my score curving because it won’t be justifiable to the other students. My focus was completely rattled by those wonderful tunes that I had played. Nothing I can do about it. It was just a bad luck and one of those bad days that ruined my life completely for a year. ALL OF YOU did not have that happened. You don't not understand what I am going through. You are not in the same shoes as I am so you don’t know what is being dragged at the end of my shoes and what kind of stress I am all over covered in with.

I think this passage explains why you got a 2 on verbal. Even with my 12 I have no idea what you are talking about. If you can't break 20 after three times maybe you need to be realisitic?

 

[JustR]

I think this passage explains why you got a 2 on verbal. Even with my 12 I have no idea what you are talking about. If you can't break 20 after three times maybe you need to be realisitic?

What the hell? I am telling all of you the freaking truth and you don’t all believe me. I guess you all are Liars, so you don’t understand my honesty whatsoever. I wish I had some type of power of some type of gun in my hand and I would kill ya all right here, right now for accusing me of being a liar and not understanding what I am going through. who wants to fight? You know what right now i don't care even if I get banned for trolling. You all are #%^%#%&#$%^% for not understanding my point. Why don’t you see my point that taking MCAT could be almost similar event as going through events after a rap? I am the lving proof, but I have not been raped though. But I am going through the same psycological events. Can't u all see it clearly that how mad I am about getting my scores. and since I got those socres that what I have been rambling all over the place.