Ok...so I see that the NOVA Post-Bac/Masters program is popular. I have done some research and found some programs locally that are similar, although they do not have the prestige of the NOVA program. It seems to me that if you can successfully complete the NOVA program, one is almost guaranteed a spot in dental/med/pharm/health sciences program. If you get A's across the board you are "in" for the next year. My question is, do you guys think that if I did a post-bac/masters around here (in IL) at a local University (the one I found is through Finch Medical College/University of Chicago, but it directly feeds into the Med School; also Roosevelt University program in Biotechnology) that if I did well my chances would not be as good as if I applied/matriculated into the NOVA program or one of the more prestigious programs (ie Georgetown, etc.)? Lastly, I also found a few others that are out of state....there is one that I found that is very appealing, but I am getting this feeling that in order to be taken seriously the NOVA program is where its at....do you guys think this is true, or is it basically if you find a program with suitable coursework (graduate work) that it doesnt matter in the end because everyone is doing the same amount of work (and earning same amount of credits)? If I did a program it would be something like a physiology certificate/masters (depends on if I wanted to stay the extra year to get masters) which involves pathology, physiology, anatomy, immunology, etc. and is similar in structure as the medical students schedules (or for that matter dental students.....same difficulty level essentially). I want to hear what you all have to say...I am interested. Its hard to get an answer out of the people at the schools offering these "non-traditional" programs because they are biased and want you to go to their school. By the way I am a pre-dental student. Finally (last question I promise) what are anyone's thoughts on these types of programs improving your chances of getting in for the following year given the fact that my gpa is somewhere in the 3.2 area, and its really the DAT that needs to come up (I know...dont tell me...it has to come up...and I will do everything I can to attempt to do so). Does anyone think that this is strictly for those with "lower" GPA's or is it for anyone who is serious about getting in to dental school? I am pretty sure I will have to reapply given some of the stories I have heard about NYU and the waitlist, and although not on it, they want me to retake DAT before they make the final decision and I am studying for it, but I feel like I need to get a 20 for them to consider me and I have to take it within the next 4 weeks. This is an odd situation. I feel like NYU is dangling me like a puppet. Is their program worth jumping through hoops for $40,000 tuition per year? To me it doesnt seem like it and I would rather do a postbac, apply early, give myself time to study for DAT, and have more chances to get in to more than just 1 school. (DAT random fact: some schools will not even look at your score after the 3rd attempt. Most schools and namely state schools do not abide by this policy. Tufts is a firm believer in this philosophy and if you take it more than 3 times kiss your chances goodbye.) In the end I am going to study and attempt to do well on this DAT and see what happens with them, but IMHO I would rather see what happens next cycle. Any feedback is greatly appreciated...this process...for those of us who are so close yet so far away (as adcoms will say) in one area or another (GPA, DAT, experience, LORs, connections) really sucks and is emotionally draining. I know this is long, but I need some perspective!