NY com vs AUC

[Sinfest]

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Haha I thought there might be some new method for the match for us future DO grads. Got a little excited there. But I totally agree with you.

IIRC the way the scramble works will be changed in the near future. Besides that I'm not sure if there are any new changes.

 

[Kalu123]

IIRC the way the scramble works will be changed in the near future. Besides that I'm not sure if there are any new changes.

How will the scramble change?

 

[PlasticMan]

Another vote for DO > IMG. A couple things that I'm noticing:

1) US schools are increasing in size and number (both MD and DO schools). This leads to more American grads competing for the same number or slightly more residency slots (PGY training slots are not increasing at the same rate as schools enrollments).

2) I'm thinking in 5 years or so from now as these increased class sizes start graduating and seeking PG training, it will become nearly impossible for a DO or IMG to match into a competitive specialty ACGME slot.

3) When ACGME residencies in competitive specialties start filling completely with US MD grads, the DO students at least have the AOA residencies to go into. For instance, it is incredibly difficult for a DO or IMG to land an ACGME orthopedics spot; however as a DO for an AOA spot, it is very doable. So if you're set on a super competitive specialty, that can become a reality.

4) It seems in general, the clinical training sites for DOs are better than carribean grads. At least here in NY, we train at good hospitals many times alongside students from NYU or Einstein, places like NSUH, whereas the carribean students seem to be jammed into small, poor community hospitals with poor education value by comparison. When I've rotated at those programs, the education was not as great.

5) Out there on the interview trail for Gen Surg, I do run into IMGs, but many times they are interviewing for pre-lim spots, while all the DOs I know are interviewing for categorical positions.

BTW, nothing against carribean IMGs, I've rotated with a bunch of them, and many know their stuff and work hard. I just feel bad for them. If I had a nickle for every time I've heard, "I wish I would have went to a DO school if I knew what I know now..."

 

[cliquesh]

In 2010, the ACGME match rate for US-IMGs was 47.3% and 70.5% for DOs. Not all Carribean schools are the same, however, and AUG might have a higher match rate than the average. In general, though, you are much better off going to an osteopathic school.

 

[cliquesh]

compare those to one of the biggest DO programs

http://www.pcom.edu/student_life/student_affairs_main/match_2010_phl.html

not that much different and a larger % of carib placements were better known places than PCOM. Just saying to all those that think 100% hands down DO > Carib MD do some research. It's the person not the school when you are Carib MD OR DO now and days.

Just to let everyone know, PCOM is a good school, but they have below average board schools, and, to the best of my knowledge, the class of 2010 was horrible.

 

[NurWollen]

Just to let everyone know, PCOM is a good school, but they have below average board schools, and, to the best of my knowledge, the class of 2010 was horrible.

Nice story bro.

 

[aspirant11]

Um, PCOM dominates... no need to debate this any further...

DO>>>Carib MD

Stay HOME.

 

[DocEspana]

Um, PCOM dominates... no need to debate this any further...

DO>>>Carib MD

Stay HOME.

Of the osteopathic schools you'd think up immediately (so not some of the more obscure ones. I'm specifically thinking of the touros, CCOM, KCOM, TCOM, MSUCOM, etc) PCOM has the lowest rate of specialty matching (AOA and ACGME).

perspective: still doing x2 (or much more than that) better than any carribbean school. Also I love PCOM, just noting that it is literally *The* school you'd pick to make DOs look bad for specialty matching since its name-brand but the students rarely specialty match compared to other DO schools.

 

[Sinfest]

How will the scramble change?

http://www.studentdoctor.net/2010/10/using-soap-to-clean-up-the-scramble/

btw, did you end up getting into Western? 🙂

 

[Kalu123]

http://www.studentdoctor.net/2010/10/using-soap-to-clean-up-the-scramble/

btw, did you end up getting into Western? 🙂

Thanks for the link! It looks like that will be a good change, but hopefully we never have to scramble 🙂. I did end up getting into Western and that's where I plan on going. I was reading the AZCOM thread yesterday and I saw that you're still hoping for an interview there. Good Luck. I'm crossing my fingers for you!

 

[Sinfest]

Thanks for the link! It looks like that will be a good change, but hopefully we never have to scramble 🙂. I did end up getting into Western and that's where I plan on going. I was reading the AZCOM thread yesterday and I saw that you're still hoping for an interview there. Good Luck. I'm crossing my fingers for you!

I'm sure we won't have to 🙂

Congrats on the acceptance!! Thanks, I'm crossing my fingers too.