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im also a 4th year student applying in nyc ... if you could be a little more specific, i could try and share what knowledge i've garnered so far ...
Because of my lack of knowledge, I have only applied to "brand name" schools (i.e. Cornell and Columbia) so far. i was hoping someone could share their thoughts about potentially good programs worthy of applying.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
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St Vincent's, Beth Israel, St Luke's-Roosevelt are all great Manhattan programs. I wouldn't get overly excited about Cornell though. They are VERY into names, numbers, and status. If by Southwest you mean UCSF with 240+ on step I then you're golden, but otherwise, they most likely wont take their noses out of the air long enough to look down and your application. If you dont believe me take a gander at their website and see where their current residents went to college and medical school. Please, this is in NO WAY an attack against you. I'm just trying to offer a friendly warning. In fact, I hope you get and interview and they love you and they absolutely have to take you! But this brings up a point that I feel very strongly about. Cornell and other places like them most certainly have great residency programs and faculty, but who in their right mind would want to go to a place like that and work with those types of people for 4 years?? All the "top" programs are not like this, however. I hear nothing but good things about Washington U, NYU, etc. Anyway, the above programs are definitely something to consider as far as non-big name places. St Lukes has great housing and it's pretty cheap. Beth Israel is located on the east side near NYU Undergraduate if I'm not mistaken, and the location of St Vincent's escapes me. But you really can't go wrong with an NYC residency. Best of luck!
I want to point out that the urban and rural pictures you get with patient populations are different.
Urban patients for example: drug abuse is more common, certain types of drugs are more common, there's many more malingerers and homless patients.
Rural patients: several more patients want help for interpersonal family strife.
I suggest if possible you try to get a program with a good mix of patients--rural & urban. I don't know which NYC programs do that, other than perhaps NYMC--which is right outside the city in upstate NY.
Some of the NYC programs I interviewed at gave me the impression that they got a very limited patient population.
Urban patients for example: drug abuse is more common, certain types of drugs are more common, there's many more malingerers and homless patients.
Rural patients: several more patients want help for interpersonal family strife.
I suggest if possible you try to get a program with a good mix of patients--rural & urban. I don't know which NYC programs do that, other than perhaps NYMC--which is right outside the city in upstate NY.
Some of the NYC programs I interviewed at gave me the impression that they got a very limited patient population.
St Vincents is in the West Village, @ W 12th St and 7th Ave.
I'm an intern at Mt. Sinai and am having an incredible clinical experience. This is made even better by the fact we have a great group of residents too. 🙂
This site was a great help to me when I was applying, so I'll be posting a review of my program in the post-interview thread as soon as I get the chance.
Good luck to everyone! It really does work out for the best in the end.
This site was a great help to me when I was applying, so I'll be posting a review of my program in the post-interview thread as soon as I get the chance.
Good luck to everyone! It really does work out for the best in the end.
Great to hear! Which site are you at? Cabrini?
imho, the best clinical program in new york by volume and diversity and depth of psychopathology is hands down the NYU/Bellevue program. the best overall academic program is hands down Columbia. the best psychodynamic program is probably Cornell. Mt. Sinai is like Columbia-lite. Albert Einstein is very resident friendly/easy. the other manhattan programs are all far less academic and community oriented but i haven't seen them. best location is st. vincents imho, can't beat it.
The main NYMC is located in Vahalla, NY (Westchester County). Although, it is outside of NYC, it is by no stretch considered as "upstate" New York.
Since I'm interviewing at Mt. Sinai, can you explain why you think it's "Columbia-lite"?
Thank you.
They seem to be recruiting academic types who are into research (faculty and residents) but they aren't quite at the level of Columbia. Also, alot of faculty and administrators as I recall originally were at Columbia and I just got the feeling that they were modeling their program after Columbia (this is totally one person's opinion and one could argue this is a good idea since Columbia may represent the Gold Standard for psychiatry programs).
To me, Sinai seemed like a solid program but it didn't have the strong identity that the other big three in manhattan had in NYU, Columbia, and Cornell. This doesn't mean the other ones were better per se, just that they had distinct identities that some people are very drawn to and others are not. It wasn't quite as cold and business like as Columbia but it resembled most closely columbia and seemed interested on pushing the role of research, but it did have ties to a strong psychodynamic faculty and training.
To me, Sinai seemed like a solid program but it didn't have the strong identity that the other big three in manhattan had in NYU, Columbia, and Cornell. This doesn't mean the other ones were better per se, just that they had distinct identities that some people are very drawn to and others are not. It wasn't quite as cold and business like as Columbia but it resembled most closely columbia and seemed interested on pushing the role of research, but it did have ties to a strong psychodynamic faculty and training.
Hey, thanks for the info. Still sounds like a very good program...I've heard residents are quite happy there.
no problem, resident happiness is a HUGE factor imho. if thats what you heard, then thats a big feather in the cap of sinai.
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