NY resident...out of state question

[Lola2010]

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Im curious about two schools close to NY I'm thinking about applying to as an out of state resident. U Conn and Robert Wood Johnson. Should I even bother?

Also reeeaally interested in OHSU. I have the 3.6 min cum GPA they say you need on the website. Have not yet taken the MCAT. Almost all the schools I'm thinking about applying to are on the east coast, but would take a chance on OHSU if I had one.

 

[funkymunkytoes]

It's IMPOSSIBLE to say.

The only info you've given us is your state residency status and GPA. If you have cured myopia, won an Oscar for best short film, have been head composer for a symphony, and end up getting a 45T on your MCAT, I would say you better apply!

More info, please.

 

[Lola2010]

My question really is if you have a chance if you are out of state. My numbers are average...science GPA even a little below average. Did not take the MCAT. Excellent experience and LORs. Lots of full time research and clinical. Post bacc.

 

[funkymunkytoes]

3.6 is around average. Really, at this point, it all depends on your MCAT. With a solid MCAT, and the good EC's and LOR's that you say you have, of course it's a possibility.

 

[RoadRunner17]

Off the top of my head, you won't have a great chance at UConn but your chances are better at OHSU and certainly Robert Wood Johnson. They're not as good as if you were an in-state resident but it certainly doesn't disqualify you for consideration either.

 

[funkydrmonkey]

Im curious about two schools close to NY I'm thinking about applying to as an out of state resident. U Conn and Robert Wood Johnson. Should I even bother?

Also reeeaally interested in OHSU. I have the 3.6 min cum GPA they say you need on the website. Have not yet taken the MCAT. Almost all the schools I'm thinking about applying to are on the east coast, but would take a chance on OHSU if I had one.

I got an interview at UConn, and I do not even live anywhere near CT... I think you just need to do well on your MCAT and you will be fine😀 Best of luck!

 

[Lola2010]

Thanks for the feedback! Will keep my fingers crossed for a good MCAT score!

 

[student1799]

I'd say your chances are slim, although not zero, at both schools. According to USNews, last year UConn got 2624 OOS applications and accepted 48 (1.8%), while RWJ got 2340 OOS apps and accepted 65 (2.8%). Meanwhile, UConn accepted 30% of its IS applicants, and RWJ 27%.

Personally, I wouldn't bother, unless your stats are far above the average at each school. I applied to the NJ schools myself, before I knew the above information, and I regret wasting my time and money.

 

[235009]

why would you want to go to UMDNJ or UConn over one of the SUNYs? 😕

 

[GonnaBeADoc2222]

that's what I was wondering.....

 

[Lola2010]

I would LOVE to go to a SUNY and am def applying to all of them. I'm just doing research on other schools to apply to. I want to make sure that each school I apply to makes sense for me for one reason or another and that I don't just waste time and money.

 

[235009]

I would LOVE to go to a SUNY and am def applying to all of them. I'm just doing research on other schools to apply to. I want to make sure that each school I apply to makes sense for me for one reason or another and that I don't just waste time and money.

i think applying to either of those schools would likely be a waste of money. looking at OOS %s is fine but i'm assuming that since they wouldn't want to accept people who are unlikely to attend they would be picking OOSers who are from unfriendly states like California and not from one of the best states for ISers like NY.

 

[Lola2010]

I think you make a good point. There is little chance I would pick one of those schools over a SUNY, and I probably have a better shot at a SUNY anyways.

 

[student1799]

one of the best states for ISers like NY.

Sorry, but I beg to differ with you there. NY is one of the worst (i.e. most competitive)states in the country for public med school admissions. CA is worse, I grant you, but I'd say NY is right up there.
How do I measure this? Admissions stats. There are only 4 SUNYs (2 of which are upstate), and IS students have a roughly 10-15% probability of being accepted at a given SUNY, depending on the school. But even in NJ, IS students have a high-20's probability of acceptance at each of the 2 state schools, and there are many states in the South, West and Midwest which have multiple schools that each admit close to 30% of IS applicants--and with lower average stats than you need in NY. So I would hardly call NY a paradise.

It's not hard to understand why things are so tight: we have a very large population, and thus fewer public med school seats per person than many states. NY has a lot of private med aschools which were founded in the 1800's and even earlier, so no one saw a need to found a lot of public med schools as well. But most of those private schools are in the elite category, and not accessible to the more mainstream student that the public schools are supposed to serve.

 

[235009]

Sorry, but I beg to differ with you there. NY is one of the worst (i.e. most competitive)states in the country for public med school admissions. CA is worse, I grant you, but I'd say NY is right up there.
How do I measure this? Admissions stats. There are only 4 SUNYs (2 of which are upstate), and IS students have a roughly 10-15% probability of being accepted at a given SUNY, depending on the school. But even in NJ, IS students have a high-20's probability of acceptance at each of the 2 state schools, and there are many states in the South, West and Midwest which have multiple schools that each admit close to 30% of IS applicants--and with lower average stats than you need in NY. So I would hardly call NY a paradise.

It's not hard to understand why things are so tight: we have a very large population, and thus fewer public med school seats per person than many states. NY has a lot of private med aschools which were founded in the 1800's and even earlier, so no one saw a need to found a lot of public med schools as well. But most of those private schools are in the elite category, and not accessible to the more mainstream student that the public schools are supposed to serve.

honestly (and i know this sounds horrible) i was only going by what i've heard on SDN. In all those threads where people are asking about which state is best for IS students NY tends to be mentioned along with TX and FL among others. I of course have never found a need to look into the stats and the admission precentages of the SUNYs compared to public schools in other states since it makes no difference to me.

But i still think that NY is a decent state to reside in when it comes to med school admissions. i think the fact that we have 5 elite private schools takes the pressure off of the public schools and makes them more accessible to more average students (median MCAT ~32) as opposed to Cali which only has 1 elite private school (i think) and therefore the higher stat IS residents flock to the public schools.

Again this dynamic isn't really something i've given much thought to but while i was picking schools i was thinking that OOS public schools wouldn't necessarily give me any attention since my stats were competitive at the SUNYs whereas (as i was saying before) someone with similar stats from Cali might be taken more seriously since they wouldn't be as competitive for the schools in their state.