NYS Warning those using ADMs

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ADVISORY NOTICE

AUTOMATED DISPENSING MACHINES

The New York State Department of Education (Department) has been made aware that pharmacy establishments have installed Automated Dispensing Machines (ADM) that store and provide prescription drugs for sale to customers outside of their respective registered pharmacy areas. The Department considers this to be a violation of state law.

As defined in Education Law §6802(1), a “pharmacy” means any place in which drugs, prescriptions or poisons are possessed for the purpose of compounding, preserving, dispensing or retailing, or in which drugs, prescriptions or poisons are compounded, preserved, dispensed or retailed, or in which such drugs, prescriptions or poisons are by advertising or otherwise offered for sale at retail.

Education Law §6808(1) prohibits an establishment from offering prescriptions drugs for retail sale unless properly registered by the Department as a pharmacy.

Pharmacy establishments located in New York must meet all requirements outlined in Title 8 NYCRR Part 63, Section 63.6.

Pharmacy establishments that operate these ADMs appear to be violating New York State law and may be subject to disciplinary and unprofessional conduct action.

Responsibility for compliance with all laws and regulations applicable to the conduct of a pharmacy is placed upon the ownership of the pharmacy and the Supervising Pharmacist.

 

[owlegrad]

What, you can't just replace pharmacists with lending machines? Why not? LMAO

 

[pencilandpen]

What, you can't just replace pharmacists with lending machines? Why not? LMAO

not yet, just wait till they change the law. we're just one law away ffrom being replaced

 

[alpha12]

CVS and Walgreens have enough money to lobby the govt and make it legal. Imagine the money they save by not having real pharmacists. Go free market capitalism

 

[CetiAlphaFive]

Don't they do this every few years?

 

[BenJammin]

This is already under a pilot program in Texas

 

[WVUPharm2007]

A pharmacist has to load the machines, right? So they aren't really replacing a pharmacist.

 

[owlegrad]

A pharmacist has to load the machines, right? So they aren't really replacing a pharmacist.

How many vending machines do you think one pharmacist can load in a day?

 

[WVUPharm2007]

How many vending machines do you think one pharmacist can load in a day?

Do you honestly think that however many machines a pharmacist loads would replace a FTE pharmacist manning an entire pharmacy? I don't. This is such a non issue to me.

 

[Pharmacy is a Scam]

Do you honestly think that however many machines a pharmacist loads would replace a FTE pharmacist manning an entire pharmacy? I don't. This is such a non issue to me.

The pharmacist FTE would be for driving around town to deliver the meds at 30 different locations a day, and techs at each designated location will do the actual loading of the vending machine. This way, one pharmacist can “oversee” 30 locations. Efficiency.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

The pharmacist FTE would be for driving around town to deliver the meds at 30 different locations a day, and techs at each designated location will do the actual loading of the vending machine. This way, one pharmacist can “oversee” 30 locations. Efficiency.

A pharmacist still has to do order verification. Answer questions. Etc. It's not like retail pharmacies aren't already setting it up so that RPhs do as little tech work as possible. I really don't see this as being a huge risk. Sheer saturation due to pharmacy school graduation rates is still worry #1 It's like worrying about a leaky faucet when your house is on fire.

 

[mentos]

A pharmacist still has to do order verification. Answer questions. Etc. It's not like retail pharmacies aren't already setting it up so that RPhs do as little tech work as possible. I really don't see this as being a huge risk. Sheer saturation due to pharmacy school graduation rates is still worry #1 It's like worrying about a leaky faucet when your house is on fire.

They already have machines where pharmacists verify remotely (doesn't Walgreens have Rphs sit at a desk and do this already?) and consult thru webcam.

 

[lane one]

They already have machines where pharmacists verify remotely (doesn't Walgreens have Rphs sit at a desk and do this already?) and consult thru webcam.

This. Central fill is the future of retail. There is simply no reason to have all the store fronts. They could even copy Amazon's delivery model. Deliver maintenance meds and have CVS "lockers" to dispense acute meds to people who can't wait a day. The data entry, claim adjudication and verification is done at the call center. CVS locker dispenses on demand similar to a script-pro. The question is not if, it's when...

 

[mentos]

There's videos like this all over YouTube, they have already caught on in some areas.

 

[Lnsean]

A pharmacist still has to do order verification. Answer questions. Etc. It's not like retail pharmacies aren't already setting it up so that RPhs do as little tech work as possible. I really don't see this as being a huge risk. Sheer saturation due to pharmacy school graduation rates is still worry #1 It's like worrying about a leaky faucet when your house is on fire.

This is easy. Just have it remotely verified. This is probably the easiest part in term of logistics for big chains. The big wigs are drooling at this very idea. Just one law that stands in the way.

 

[owlegrad]

A pharmacist still has to do order verification. Answer questions. Etc. It's not like retail pharmacies aren't already setting it up so that RPhs do as little tech work as possible. I really don't see this as being a huge risk. Sheer saturation due to pharmacy school graduation rates is still worry #1 It's like worrying about a leaky faucet when your house is on fire.

One pharmacist to oversee 30 vending machines (or 100? Who knows what the upper limit will be) vs one pharmacist for each store. You really don’t see an issue? Yeah it’s not a problem today but it is yuge for the future when they catch on.


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[WVUPharm2007]

One pharmacist to oversee 30 vending machines (or 100? Who knows what the upper limit will be) vs one pharmacist for each store. You really don’t see an issue? Yeah it’s not a problem today but it is yuge for the future when they catch on.


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Not really. Because they won't catch on. They've been trying these stupid things since I was in school.

It's about #200 on my list of things I'm worried about.