NYU Dental Questions?

[Dr Hope]

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I am a D1 at NYU and the administration assured us that they do not intentionally drop anybody. From what i hear it is the students who are the root of this problem ie. they fail out. Everyone says that if you put in the time and are reponsible, you'll be fine.

The question is why does this happen only at NYU ? Why don't the students fail out at similar rate at other schools ? Why don't the students do it to themselves at other schools ? This issue should be brought out and discussed in open . The NYU board should be made aware of this , so that corrective measures are put in place at the dental school. It seems that they are playing with the careers of students.

 

[Pi__Guy1]

To respond to Dr. Hope's thread:

I'm a 3rd year at NYU and my class (2006) was the class that got hit hard by unexpected low curves last semester. Shariq's posts are pretty much on target, but when he says 100 failed pathology and 80 failed pharm, that's a little misleading.

1)Actually, 80 people failed pathology and 70 people failed pharm
2)when we say "fail", that doesn't mean you get booted. that only means you have the opportunity to remediate these courses during the summer
3)with all these people that had to remediate, only 17 people out of our 300+ 2nd year class got the boot.

So why did they remediate so many students in the first place? We all thought it was b/c of all the rumors you read on SDN: no room in clinics, money scam, blah blah. Well, trust me, when we first heard of all those remediations, my class got together a petition and threatened to write letters to ADA, NYTimes, ASDA, etc...and this past month the top deans in our school set up a meeting to meet w/ our 2nd year class to address these issues.

In a nutshell, here's what they said:
1)No room in clinic: Dean Alfano told us that this is not a issue at all. He made a point that there are 10 clinics of 45 3rd/4th years in each of these clinics. And at any given point in a day, all the chairs are never filled due to patient disappointments and what not. I started clinic back in May and I can attest that I have NEVER seen a full clinic in ANY of the 10 clinics...
2)Why the recent low curves in path and pharm? For pharm, the professor told the deans that some of the students hadn't grasped some concepts and felt that remediation was justified. Now with systems pathology, I still have no idea why we only got a 3 point curve vs. last year's 9 point curve.
3)Booting for the money: Dean Alfano started to laugh at this. He joked why not get 4 years tuition instead of 2 years....

There are some more issues they addressed (ie: vitalbook, transcripts) but I'll post more if anybody has questions.

Personally, do I think they are trying to boot us? I'm not sure. At first when I learned about the 80 and 70 failures in path and pharm, yes, i thought all the rumors in SDN was true. But, in the end, they ultimately booted out 17 people out of, what, 325+? So, I'm not so sure that they are trying to boot us out...I think they are trying to send a message to the new 2nd years. ie: don't expect and rely on a curve.

Lastly, the Deans emphasized that the majority of the failures were in the 2 courses they deemed most important and demanding: path and pharm. They also stressed that NYU students perform very well in pathology on the Part I Boards.

ok, time to end the novel...

I am a D1 at NYU and the administration assured us that they do not intentionally drop anybody. From what i hear it is the students who are the root of this problem ie. they fail out. Everyone says that if you put in the time and are reponsible, you'll be fine.

 

[shariq]

Ooops sorry, i think i was off by abt a 20
But do you wonder why so many people failed this year. I mean it does not make any sense, ITS NOt that the people got dumber, And this i have heard not happen anywhere else except NYU.
If 30% of the class is failing, then there is something wrong. Would you not agree

To respond to Dr. Hope's thread:

I'm a 3rd year at NYU and my class (2006) was the class that got hit hard by unexpected low curves last semester. Shariq's posts are pretty much on target, but when he says 100 failed pathology and 80 failed pharm, that's a little misleading.

1)Actually, 80 people failed pathology and 70 people failed pharm
2)when we say "fail", that doesn't mean you get booted. that only means you have the opportunity to remediate these courses during the summer
3)with all these people that had to remediate, only 17 people out of our 300+ 2nd year class got the boot.

So why did they remediate so many students in the first place? We all thought it was b/c of all the rumors you read on SDN: no room in clinics, money scam, blah blah. Well, trust me, when we first heard of all those remediations, my class got together a petition and threatened to write letters to ADA, NYTimes, ASDA, etc...and this past month the top deans in our school set up a meeting to meet w/ our 2nd year class to address these issues.

In a nutshell, here's what they said:
1)No room in clinic: Dean Alfano told us that this is not a issue at all. He made a point that there are 10 clinics of 45 3rd/4th years in each of these clinics. And at any given point in a day, all the chairs are never filled due to patient disappointments and what not. I started clinic back in May and I can attest that I have NEVER seen a full clinic in ANY of the 10 clinics...
2)Why the recent low curves in path and pharm? For pharm, the professor told the deans that some of the students hadn't grasped some concepts and felt that remediation was justified. Now with systems pathology, I still have no idea why we only got a 3 point curve vs. last year's 9 point curve.
3)Booting for the money: Dean Alfano started to laugh at this. He joked why not get 4 years tuition instead of 2 years....

There are some more issues they addressed (ie: vitalbook, transcripts) but I'll post more if anybody has questions.

Personally, do I think they are trying to boot us? I'm not sure. At first when I learned about the 80 and 70 failures in path and pharm, yes, i thought all the rumors in SDN was true. But, in the end, they ultimately booted out 17 people out of, what, 325+? So, I'm not so sure that they are trying to boot us out...I think they are trying to send a message to the new 2nd years. ie: don't expect and rely on a curve.

Lastly, the Deans emphasized that the majority of the failures were in the 2 courses they deemed most important and demanding: path and pharm. They also stressed that NYU students perform very well in pathology on the Part I Boards.

ok, time to end the novel...

 

[shariq]

OFcourse if people fail mre than 4 classes they cant even remediate

For my class, it could not be more than 3

 

[boogaking]

I believe the number of people that get booted from NYU may be alarming but if you compare the percentages.... of various schools... you may find NYU to be fairly on the same level as others... NYU's class size is HUGE! Check out some of the stats at other schools... before you do this.. make sure that the sources are legit and not just numbers thrown out by propaganda school stats... ask around.... this stat... rate of attrition of a school... are a good sign about a school's quality... granted a degree is a degree ....and beggar's can't be chooser..but if you can afford to choose... this is a good stat to follow when making your first choice... it says alot about a school and their education when they retain 95+ percent of their class past their 2nd year... on top of that if those students make up a NBDE pass rate of 90+ percent... that would be the school I'd strive to be at....

Thanks to the above with solid NYU info... helps out alot!

 

[Pi__Guy1]

Shariq:

ya, i do wonder why the failed so many in the first place. i do believe however that it is not to boot people out....b/c they really only failed 5% of the class. but ya, i'm still confused why the big change in curves. rumor is that dr. kirimidjian and dr. vernillo got sick of hearing people in the elevators saying "ya, we'll be fine. we're gonna get at least a 7 point curve". so i think they wanted to make an example out of our class for the class of 2007. that's the only thing i can think of. we complained about the intimidating teaching methods of the path professors, but i don't think the deans will touch this matter....their theory is: as long as we keep scoring high in path on the boards, why fix the curriculum.

yes, there are some shady things goin on behind the scenes too. another issue is the fact that out of 80 path students that had to remediate, only 3-4 were advanced placement students....

OFcourse if people fail mre than 4 classes they cant even remediate

For my class, it could not be more than 3

 

[Pi__Guy1]

one more thing shariq:

ya, i do find it odd that 30% of the class had to remediate. i do have a problem with that aspect....but i don't have a problem or find it odd that 17 people (or roughly 5%) failed out....cause w/ a class this large i think that's an insignificant number of students to base a theory that nyu fails students out.

btw, what's the hardest class 3rd year/fall semester?

OFcourse if people fail mre than 4 classes they cant even remediate

For my class, it could not be more than 3

 

[Dr Hope]

To respond to Dr. Hope's thread:

I'm a 3rd year at NYU and my class (2006) was the class that got hit hard by unexpected low curves last semester. Shariq's posts are pretty much on target, but when he says 100 failed pathology and 80 failed pharm, that's a little misleading.

1)Actually, 80 people failed pathology and 70 people failed pharm
2)when we say "fail", that doesn't mean you get booted. that only means you have the opportunity to remediate these courses during the summer
3)with all these people that had to remediate, only 17 people out of our 300+ 2nd year class got the boot.

So why did they remediate so many students in the first place? We all thought it was b/c of all the rumors you read on SDN: no room in clinics, money scam, blah blah. Well, trust me, when we first heard of all those remediations, my class got together a petition and threatened to write letters to ADA, NYTimes, ASDA, etc...and this past month the top deans in our school set up a meeting to meet w/ our 2nd year class to address these issues.

In a nutshell, here's what they said:
1)No room in clinic: Dean Alfano told us that this is not a issue at all. He made a point that there are 10 clinics of 45 3rd/4th years in each of these clinics. And at any given point in a day, all the chairs are never filled due to patient disappointments and what not. I started clinic back in May and I can attest that I have NEVER seen a full clinic in ANY of the 10 clinics...
2)Why the recent low curves in path and pharm? For pharm, the professor told the deans that some of the students hadn't grasped some concepts and felt that remediation was justified. Now with systems pathology, I still have no idea why we only got a 3 point curve vs. last year's 9 point curve.
3)Booting for the money: Dean Alfano started to laugh at this. He joked why not get 4 years tuition instead of 2 years....

There are some more issues they addressed (ie: vitalbook, transcripts) but I'll post more if anybody has questions.

Personally, do I think they are trying to boot us? I'm not sure. At first when I learned about the 80 and 70 failures in path and pharm, yes, i thought all the rumors in SDN was true. But, in the end, they ultimately booted out 17 people out of, what, 325+? So, I'm not so sure that they are trying to boot us out...I think they are trying to send a message to the new 2nd years. ie: don't expect and rely on a curve.

Lastly, the Deans emphasized that the majority of the failures were in the 2 courses they deemed most important and demanding: path and pharm. They also stressed that NYU students perform very well in pathology on the Part I Boards.

ok, time to end the novel...

Let me ask a question :

NYU has a large class but do they have proprtionally larger staff.....if not ....may be that is the reason why some students could not grasp concept in some subjects. The same subjects are covered at other schools. If NYU is not adequately staffed and because of that , students do not get the proper instructions, that is not student's fault and students should not be penalized.

Also, why are the students dropped out....if some one did not perform well ....they ought to repeat a year ....not kicked out of school ?

 

[shariq]

[
Whats up buddy
Ya i guess youre right. Only i heard that they got rid of 50 people. There were five people from my clinic that were booted out
Anyways this conversation would always continue. I think no one at NYU will ever know the truth or be happy
Well there are no hard classes in third year, atleast thats what i thought. They split oral medicine for you guys. But beware of Curro's therapeutics.





QUOTE=Pi__Guy1]one more thing shariq:

ya, i do find it odd that 30% of the class had to remediate. i do have a problem with that aspect....but i don't have a problem or find it odd that 17 people (or roughly 5%) failed out....cause w/ a class this large i think that's an insignificant number of students to base a theory that nyu fails students out.

btw, what's the hardest class 3rd year/fall semester?[/QUOTE]

 

[3rdMolarRoller]

well we have transcripts again and i think curves. My class is roughly 30 less than last aug.

My class really fuc$ed things up for people. They were the ones in elevators talking how all they had to do is ride the curve. So our last 2 classes no curve at all, but we still did fine. Class avg was 78 for one class and 81 for the last one (no curve)

I think there is enough staff here, its just that if you are doing poorly they won't come up to you and say "Wow Jim, you failed the last two exams, do you need a tutor?"

Help is there if you seek it...but ONLY IF YOU seek it

 

[Dr Hope]

well we have transcripts again and i think curves. My class is roughly 30 less than last aug.

My class really fuc$ed things up for people. They were the ones in elevators talking how all they had to do is ride the curve. So our last 2 classes no curve at all, but we still did fine. Class avg was 78 for one class and 81 for the last one (no curve)

I think there is enough staff here, its just that if you are doing poorly they won't come up to you and say "Wow Jim, you failed the last two exams, do you need a tutor?"

Help is there if you seek it...but ONLY IF YOU seek it

These 30 students who have failed , are they repeating the year or have they been kicked out of NYU ?

 

[3rdMolarRoller]

These 30 students who have failed , are they repeating the year or have they been kicked out of NYU ?

I have no idea but I imagine both...but more probably out than repeating

 

[Dr Hope]

I have no idea but I imagine both...but more probably out than repeating

I think this is rather harsh. If a students somehow has not done well...he/she should atleast be given a chance to repeat the year and show improvement like in most med schools. Repeating a year in itself is big punishment.
Does any one know what the other dental schools do ?

 

[UBTom]

I think this is rather harsh. If a students somehow has not done well...he/she should atleast be given a chance to repeat the year and show improvement like in most med schools. Repeating a year in itself is big punishment.
Does any one know what the other dental schools do ?

If somebody has failed one class but is doing more-or-less OK in everything else (with a GPA well above a C), I think most U.S. dental schools (including NYU) will allow the student to repeat the year to make up for it.

But if you are talking about somebody who has failed multiple classes and has an average below a C, clearly such a student is not dental school material. I don't think it's unreasonable at all to give such a student the boot.

There is no reason for a school to keep someone whose heart isn't in it.

 

[Spelmangyrl]

Am I correct in saying that NYU has a Problem-Based Learning curriculum? If so how do you like this curriculum and do you think it is better than straight lecture? If not,what is the general curriculum?

 

[justletmein]

kinda off topic, but it's been months since NYU has recieved my aadsas app, should i just go ahead and send them my app fee and photo? They say it should be signed too.. front or back? thanks!

 

[EHA DDS]

Am I correct in saying that NYU has a Problem-Based Learning curriculum? If so how do you like this curriculum and do you think it is better than straight lecture? If not,what is the general curriculum?

You are not correct in fact. NYUCD is not problem based, it has the classic didactic basic sciences at the beginning which we already started.So we do the basic sciences, epidemiology, simulation labs and other non-scientific courses like "Dentist-Patient Relationship".

Next year we do pathology, pharmacology, etc. And in D3, D4, of course we concentrate on the clinical stuff.

 

[shariq]

WHO TH EHELL ARE YOU TO DECIDE WHETHER SOMEBODY HAS HEART OR NOT
YOU do not even attend NYU to know what the policies are and how students are treated.
You know you graduated, stop making judgments on students who youve never met and a school you never attended.

If somebody has failed one class but is doing more-or-less OK in everything else (with a GPA well above a C), I think most U.S. dental schools (including NYU) will allow the student to repeat the year to make up for it.

But if you are talking about somebody who has failed multiple classes and has an average below a C, clearly such a student is not dental school material. I don't think it's unreasonable at all to give such a student the boot.

There is no reason for a school to keep someone whose heart isn't in it.

 

[3rdMolarRoller]

WHO TH EHELL ARE YOU TO DECIDE WHETHER SOMEBODY HAS HEART OR NOT
YOU do not even attend NYU to know what the policies are and how students are treated.
You know you graduated, stop making judgments on students who youve never met and a school you never attended.

Here is my take on unhappy NYU students and many agree with me. I know about 50 people in my class. 4 of the students booted were some of my friends, all of which were only accepted to NYU... complained and whined the whole semester and finally got axed. They were unhappy from the get go and that mentality transfered over to their studies.

Now I know of a bunch more people that were only accpeted to NYU and all they do is complain and whine and say the school sucks and what not.

I also know people that were accepted to more than one school (myself and many others) and are happy here and do not have any major problems.

So my take is, if NYU was the person's only acceptance, all they will do is bitch and complain

NYUCD is not harder than any other school like people on here say. I have friends at UFCD and they are doing the same stuff with the same headaches and complaints. They complain too that the staff do not help them enough and treat them like crap.

All different prospectives from different people. I'm sure someone will mention I just started my 2nd year and I have yet to see the real BS. Don't bother me with that because I know people in the 2006 class and some had no problems at all if they did what they were supposed too

 

[UBTom]

WHO TH EHELL ARE YOU TO DECIDE WHETHER SOMEBODY HAS HEART OR NOT
YOU do not even attend NYU to know what the policies are and how students are treated.
You know you graduated, stop making judgments on students who youve never met and a school you never attended.

At ANY dental school, NOT JUST NYU, administrators will have very valid doubts about a student when they see someone has failed MULTIPLE courses and not maintaining a minimum acceptable average (C).

Do I need to attend NYU to make such a statement? Nope. 😛

As a full-fledged member of the profession, I DO have a vested interest in how those who will be joining me are educated, as does every other dental professional in this country. That's who the hell I am to decide.

 

[Pi__Guy1]

now, now kids.....

At ANY dental school, NOT JUST NYU, administrators will have very valid doubts about a student when they see someone has failed MULTIPLE courses and not maintaining a minimum acceptable average (C).

Do I need to attend NYU to make such a statement? Nope. 😛

As a full-fledged member of the profession, I DO have a vested interest in how those who will be joining me are educated, as does every other dental professional in this country. That's who the hell I am to decide.

 

[shariq]

Well then,
for the other 50000 members in the profession including yu
The point of the matter is that NYU accepts every one with a heart beat, and that includes me. And i know they have an idea who will make it and who will not. Dont accept the other 50 students. Dr Hong, i dont think you know how it is to be out of school, without a furture and about 150000 in debt. These people were having trouble since first year, failed three classes and yet moved on to second year. Dont you think these people should have been let go in first year 🙁

You do make a point, that our profession has to be held to certain standards. Absolutely. i love dentistry. BUT if you have a heart, and a conscience, you will probably agree with me that instead of leadingthese people on for an extra 80000, these people should have been let go second year

Now i have said what i wanted to say. NYU was the only school that accepted me. I went in, i kicked ass, i studied like crazy and i took my opportunity and i am thankful for that. BUT i am also not too crazy with the fact that some of my good friends, who studied their brains out, who were having problems from first year(failed three big classes in first year, made to remediate and passed with curves in remedials) were allowed to progress to second year. They should have been let go end of first year, which would have saved them a hell of a lot of money, their future and God knows what more.

Know, being the member of a profession i am curious to see what you have to say.

At ANY dental school, NOT JUST NYU, administrators will have very valid doubts about a student when they see someone has failed MULTIPLE courses and not maintaining a minimum acceptable average (C).

Do I need to attend NYU to make such a statement? Nope. 😛

As a full-fledged member of the profession, I DO have a vested interest in how those who will be joining me are educated, as does every other dental professional in this country. That's who the hell I am to decide.

 

[UBTom]

Know, being the member of a profession i am curious to see what you have to say.

I have already given my answer to Hope, whose question was "why are the students dropped out....if some one did not perform well ....they ought to repeat a year ....not kicked out of school ?"

My answer is that at ANY dental school, NOT JUST NYU, administrators will have very valid doubts about a student when they see someone has failed MULTIPLE courses and not maintaining a minimum acceptable average (C).

Do I need to attend NYU to make such a statement? Nope.

Should schools hang onto people whose heart are not in it? Nope. And in my answer to Hope, I did not write that every dropout from NYU is like that.

Your rant is way beyond the scope of my answer to Hope. If you are looking to start an argument, I am not going to stoop to your level and oblige you.

 

[mobius]

I have a wife and a 90lb dog, is there any chance that i can find a place near campus to live? and what about cost for it?
thanks

 

[Dr Hope]

Well then,
for the other 50000 members in the profession including yu
The point of the matter is that NYU accepts every one with a heart beat, and that includes me. And i know they have an idea who will make it and who will not. Dont accept the other 50 students. Dr Hong, i dont think you know how it is to be out of school, without a furture and about 150000 in debt. These people were having trouble since first year, failed three classes and yet moved on to second year. Dont you think these people should have been let go in first year 🙁

You do make a point, that our profession has to be held to certain standards. Absolutely. i love dentistry. BUT if you have a heart, and a conscience, you will probably agree with me that instead of leadingthese people on for an extra 80000, these people should have been let go second year

Now i have said what i wanted to say. NYU was the only school that accepted me. I went in, i kicked ass, i studied like crazy and i took my opportunity and i am thankful for that. BUT i am also not too crazy with the fact that some of my good friends, who studied their brains out, who were having problems from first year(failed three big classes in first year, made to remediate and passed with curves in remedials) were allowed to progress to second year. They should have been let go end of first year, which would have saved them a hell of a lot of money, their future and God knows what more.

Know, being the member of a profession i am curious to see what you have to say.

In opinion, policies of NYU dental school are rather harsh. But let me add that NYU indeed is an excellent school overall with great reputation...their medical school ...business school are ranked . It only the dental school that seems to have problems. And NYU board may not be aware of the dental school policies and the student kick out situation. In my opinion ...and this is my opinion only....student body can protest and have them correct these policies so that they are consistent with policies at other dental schools. This can be a question of NYU reputation.. Some of these practices are wrong and can ruin students. These policies are not normal and should be changed. If students hesitate to organize.....a number of them can send annonymous letters to NYU board and even the press. One or two protest letters will not catch any body's attention but 50 of them will.

 

[3rdMolarRoller]

In opinion, policies of NYU dental school are rather harsh. But let me add that NYU indeed is an excellent school overall with great reputation...their medical school ...business school are ranked . It only the dental school that seems to have problems. And NYU board may not be aware of the dental school policies and the student kick out situation. In my opinion ...and this is my opinion only....student body can protest and have them correct these policies so that they are consistent with policies at other dental schools. This can be a question of NYU reputation.. Some of these practices are wrong and can ruin students. These policies are not normal and should be changed. If students hesitate to organize.....a number of them can send annonymous letters to NYU board and even the press. One or two protest letters will not catch any body's attention but 50 of them will.

Explain how they are not normal? I see no issue. Its all the students fault.

Is it the schools fault they give them the benefit of the doubt??? Sometimes failure brings out the best in people. My good buddy failed cell bio and histo. Come the 2nd semester freshman year and he kicked ass...all he needed was a rude awakening.

 

[shariq]

Excellent. The matter is closed
Btw, i do not rant. Rather i state facts, nor was i interested in starting an argument with you. I could probably write more, but i am too tired, and starting anything with you would seriously be a waste of time.
No more of this. say what you want, and believe what you may.

I have already given my answer to Hope, whose question was "why are the students dropped out....if some one did not perform well ....they ought to repeat a year ....not kicked out of school ?"

My answer is that at ANY dental school, NOT JUST NYU, administrators will have very valid doubts about a student when they see someone has failed MULTIPLE courses and not maintaining a minimum acceptable average (C).

Do I need to attend NYU to make such a statement? Nope.

Should schools hang onto people whose heart are not in it? Nope. And in my answer to Hope, I did not write that every dropout from NYU is like that.

Your rant is out of the scope of my answer to Hope. If you are looking to start an argument, I am not going to stoop to your level and oblige you.

 

[edkNARF]

Could it be that NYU has so many people failing because their class is so large?

 

[3rdMolarRoller]

Could it be that NYU has so many people failing because their class is so large?

The number sounds huge because our class is big...so its better to look at percentages. I think I remember reading Nova lost around 10 students (someone correct me if wrong) from the '07 class so they roughly lost 10%

NYUCD '07 lost ~30 from a class of 268 equaling roughly 11%

NYUCD '06 has a loss of roughly 5% from 2nd year ( 17 out of a class of around 340..again correct me if wrong)

so when you look at the percentage its about that of other schools...maybe on the upper end.

I think the biggest factors are NYU accepts some people other schools would not (thus giving them a chance at dentistry...not sure if this is a good or bad thing), the fact NYC life is not for alot of people thus making them unhappy, and last but not least the people that fall in love with the city and forget the fact they are in dental school and party too much (remember the story I told of the drunk kid in the anatomy lab practical?)

Today our sim lab instructor, a super nice guy, told us up front they will be tough on us because soon we will be clinics and we can't screw up on the real people. He was super helpful and so were the other instructors around me. Instead of only pointing out whats wrong with my work, they also pointed out all the good aspects of it and gave very helpful advice.

Although there is one guy that did go over board. My friend had to make 7 alginate impressions before he signed off his work.

One thing that sucks a$$ here is the lecture hall setup and the lack of writing space and the fact we have to go to a different location across the street to take exams. And sometimes I wish we had an additional wet lab because today the 6th and 11th floor were slammed. Something needs to be done with that. I will admit that the class size can be a bitch sometimes

 

[UBTom]

Btw, i do not rant. Rather i state facts, nor was i interested in starting an argument with you.

I prefer to let the reader decide:

WHO TH EHELL ARE YOU TO DECIDE WHETHER SOMEBODY HAS HEART OR NOT blah blah blah...

That sure sounds awfully like a rant or an attempt to start a fight, don't it?

Nice job shooting down your own credibility, sport.

I dont care whether YOu regard me as a professional or not. Based on what you write, i certainly dont hold you as one.

Like I give a rat's ass what some unprofessional troll thinks of me.. 🙄

You just aren't important, shariq. Deal with it.

 

[shariq]

I prefer to let the reader decide:
Just a friendly, courteous reminder: If you want others to treat you like a fellow professional, you might want to act like one.

Heres my friendly corteous reminder to you

I dont care whether YOu regard me as a professional or not. Based on what you write, i certainly dont hold you as one.

 

[mobius]

Heres my friendly corteous reminder to you

I dont care whether YOu regard me as a professional or not. Based on what you write, i certainly dont hold you as one.

OK what happened to the original thread about nyu questions..... my post was just ran over with all this crap can somebody from nyu please answer my questions..... again how about housing for a dog and wife, and what about cost.
thanks

 

[shariq]

OK what happened to the original thread about nyu questions..... my post was just ran over with all this crap can somebody from nyu please answer my questions..... again how about housing for a dog and wife, and what about cost.
thanks

Sorry man, its just that some people do not go to NYU but still have to comment.

Anyways well if youre looking at living close to NYU, which is manttan, 1bedroom could run you abt 2100-2400bucks. Which is pretty steep. My advice to you is, that if you wish to live near school try Waterside or RIvergate. Both require co-signers though so you might want to chat.

But if you wish to commute, you could live in Brooklyn or Queens(astoria is the best since its about 20 minutes from manhattan). That is much cheaper. You are probably looking at a one bedroom for 1200, and a two bedroom would not be that expensive.

Now that are some cheap apartments in upper east side manhattan(90st) but that is rare and the apts are crappy
Any other q's just pm me

Hope that helps. Let meknow if you need anything more
shariq

 

[justletmein]

yo, does NYU send you a card or anything that they got your aadsas app? or do you fork over the money and a picture, etc first?

 

[dshnay]

Sorry man, its just that some people do not go to NYU but still have to comment.

Anyways well if youre looking at living close to NYU, which is manttan, 1bedroom could run you abt 2100-2400bucks. Which is pretty steep. My advice to you is, that if you wish to live near school try Waterside or RIvergate. Both require co-signers though so you might want to chat.

But if you wish to commute, you could live in Brooklyn or Queens(astoria is the best since its about 20 minutes from manhattan). That is much cheaper. You are probably looking at a one bedroom for 1200, and a two bedroom would not be that expensive.

Now that are some cheap apartments in upper east side manhattan(90st) but that is rare and the apts are crappy
Any other q's just pm me

Hope that helps. Let meknow if you need anything more
shariq

how about bronx, (and i dont mean south bronx, a place that is close to the bronx zoo)
how far away is it, how long would it take to take a train (not exact time, just an aproximation)

 

[shariq]

That my friend i donot know. If i understand correctly, if you mean bronx, you could be looking at probably 140-160st st. You probably would have to find that out.

how about bronx, (and i dont mean south bronx, a place that is close to the bronx zoo)
how far away is it, how long would it take to take a train (not exact time, just an aproximation)

 

[shariq]

That my friend i donot know. If i understand correctly, if you mean bronx, you could be looking at probably 140-160st st. You probably would have to find that out.

but i think it is about an hour commute.

 

[mobius]

is there on campus and how much for that? no pets i am sure butis it much cheaper than 1200 bucks and do you share a room?

 

[shariq]

If youre looking for on campus, you will be unable to get a private room with your family, since they only rent out to students. In the dorms you share and youre looking at 1600 a month. And its pretty crappy living.

What i can tell you is try to come a little early and just look around.,And then you can decide

is there on campus and how much for that? no pets i am sure butis it much cheaper than 1200 bucks and do you share a room?

 

[Dr Hope]

Explain how they are not normal? I see no issue. Its all the students fault.

Is it the schools fault they give them the benefit of the doubt??? Sometimes failure brings out the best in people. My good buddy failed cell bio and histo. Come the 2nd semester freshman year and he kicked ass...all he needed was a rude awakening.

Bronc,
I appreciate you standing up for your school. I can not comment on if NYU policies are normal because I do not know what goes on at other schools. To find out , I am going to start a new thread in Dental section on the topic "Student drop out rates and policies at Dental schools" You are all invited to participate in discussion.

Also, I want to point out to you that NYU is not doing any favor giving admission to any students. They pick best out of the pool of application they receive. More over, the admission stats of NYU are similar to many other schools and higher than those of Howard/Meharry. But there are no horror stories about the other schools.
Also, there is atleast one school in Texas with student population same as NYU and again no scare stories.
Let me point out that before 1990, the students admitted to dental schools had avg GPA of less than 3.0. And they made it thru and are practicing dentists today ......and some your professors too.

What I mean is that there could be more that the other schools do to help their students pull through and this NYU does not do. But that should be changed . Students should come together and make that change happen.

 

[DarcyT]

what school in texas are you talking about. I know for a fact that no school in Texas takes in 200+ students. By the way, University of Texas dental Branch-Houston lost 5 students this year. They only accept 60. That comes out to 8%. NYU just has more students so 8% for NYU would be 21, if they accept 260 students. I do not think NYU's turnaround rate is worse than any other school out there. I think there are people at NYU that don't want to be at NYU and any problem is a big problem for them. Whatever school you go to will have things you don't like. You just have to learn to adapt and do things for yourself. A proff is not going to ask you why you failed and what he can do to help you out but if you go to him after a failed test he might be able to offer some advise. This is not undergrad nobody is going to hold your hand. One last point. This is a public board. Which means that anyone can come on here and post anything they want. So what i am trying to say is that you can't believe everything you read b/c there are a lot of rumors out there. Use this board to find out some info on dental schools but not all your info and if you still have questions call up the dental school admissions office and ask them.

 

[Dr Hope]

what school in texas are you talking about. I know for a fact that no school in Texas takes in 200+ students. By the way, University of Texas dental Branch-Houston lost 5 students this year. They only accept 60. That comes out to 8%. NYU just has more students so 8% for NYU would be 21, if they accept 260 students. I do not think NYU's turnaround rate is worse than any other school out there. I think there are people at NYU that don't want to be at NYU and any problem is a big problem for them. Whatever school you go to will have things you don't like. You just have to learn to adapt and do things for yourself. A proff is not going to ask you why you failed and what he can do to help you out but if you go to him after a failed test he might be able to offer some advise. This is not undergrad nobody is going to hold your hand. One last point. This is a public board. Which means that anyone can come on here and post anything they want. So what i am trying to say is that you can't believe everything you read b/c there are a lot of rumors out there. Use this board to find out some info on dental schools but not all your info and if you still have questions call up the dental school admissions office and ask them.

You are right .....I was misinformed. I checked Barron's & there is no school in Texas that takes 200+ students...it seems Tufts with 150+ is the largest class after NYU.

 

[weiy01]

someone posted the same quesiton earlier and it wasnt answered (unless i overlooked it). when does nyu start interviewing people? anybody out there who might have the answer to this question? thanks in advance.

 

[EHA DDS]

someone posted the same quesiton earlier and it wasnt answered (unless i overlooked it). when does nyu start interviewing people? anybody out there who might have the answer to this question? thanks in advance.

I was in the administration office today and there were people interviewing today.

Boy did they look nervous!

 

[justletmein]

are you serious? I haven't recieved anything from NYU ever since they got my app.

 

[Dentist 2 be]

Yeah. I haven't received anything as well. Not even a confirmation that they received all of my materials. 🙁

 

[justletmein]

what a bunch of punks. haha just kidding. this is strange, some people say they haven't recieved anything from Tufts either, but I have... hrmm

 

[Dentist 2 be]

Well in the interview thread someone said they called NYU last week and they said that they would only start looking at apps this week. Maybe EHA DDS you might have seen apps for the advanced standing program???? or some geniouses? lol I don't know

 

[Dentist 2 be]

Bump

 

[EHA DDS]

Hey, you could be right, but I definitely saw young people, dressed nicely and holding the purple folder they gave me. It's really early guys. I got interviewed in April.

PS: What is "bump"