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ok I have finally narrowed my choices from uconn pitt nyu and michigan to NYU and pitt. can anyone help me in making my final decision?
Thanks
 
thats like saying you wanna go to crap and crappier
 
why not UMich? i thought they had one of the best programs in the country? 🙄
 
Yeah, really, why is NYU at the top of your list now?
 
because U conn integrates medical school into their dental program for the first two years. I am not interested in studying about the physiology of arm and foot. That's why.
 
elnaz_GW said:
ok I have finally narrowed my choices from uconn pitt nyu and michigan to NYU and pitt. can anyone help me in making my final decision?
Thanks
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Go to pittsssss elnaz khanoooom😀
 
OP, dont listen to the jerk-off above. If you made decisions based on what appeared to be cool than you probably wouldn't be here. A lot of people are having difficulty turning down the UMich's of the world b/c they have such a good rep. A large part that makes a certain school highly ranked is ->Research<- This is partly why Harvard, UW, Mich, and the UC schools are thought of so highly. Dont get me wrong, they are awesome schools none the less. (I would love to go to UW) The bottom line is that you'll be a dentist where ever you go. You've visited the schools and go based on your gut, not what a bunch of pre-dentals who have never experienced dental school outside of a 30 minute tour. I may see you at Pitt next year.
 
my two cents: It depends on what matters to you most. They're two completely different schools. I recently moved to NYC after living in Pittsburgh for the past five years. I'm not from Pittsburgh but moved there after college (I'm a non-traditional pre-dent) and did post-bacc classes at Pitt and shadowed four different dentists who graduated from Pitt's dental school.

The major pros of Pittsburgh are the low cost and the solid all-around program. I think Pitt's dental school is great and I've heard it's pretty easy to establish residency in Pennsylvania to get in-state tuition (I don't know if you're out of state). However, I didn't even apply to Pitt because I never wanted to live in Pittsburgh again if I didn't have to. It's not all bad, but I am SO much happier living in a more diverse, big city. Pittsburgh can actually be depressing at times. I love living in New York, but I am of course paying almost double the rent I was paying in Pittsburgh for an apartment half the size, and that hurts. BUT I love the life and energy right outside my door.

In sum, if you don't mind living in Pittsburgh and aren't dying to live in New York, go to Pitt. It's a good school and it's worth saving the money.
 
Pitt's a great school and the city is...alright. Cost of living is dirt cheap which is amazing for a city. There isn't a whole lot of time to do anything, but to do stuff you have absolutely *no* time. I've gone to the museums and they're pretty nice. And I know Pitt has so much more to offer. But let's be honest, at the end of a long day all I want ot go is come home and go to sleep.

It's hard to establish residency here. I'm a resident but I've heard of people trying (like buying a house, having a baby and sending a kids to PA schools) still no dice. So don't come here on that accord.

I don't know anything about NYU. But Pitt has really good labs and a good program. Granted we have problems with the faculty sometimes, but face it, that will be anywhere you go in the entire country.

Plus one benefit of Pitt is that they don't weed out students like I heard NYU does. Pitt goes through great lengths to keep everyone that they have here.

If you want to know anymore about Pittsburgh, school, etc...drop me a PM.

Good luck choosing! 🙂
 
LoF27 said:
my two cents: It depends on what matters to you most. They're two completely different schools. I recently moved to NYC after living in Pittsburgh for the past five years. I'm not from Pittsburgh but moved there after college (I'm a non-traditional pre-dent) and did post-bacc classes at Pitt and shadowed four different dentists who graduated from Pitt's dental school.

The major pros of Pittsburgh are the low cost and the solid all-around program. I think Pitt's dental school is great and I've heard it's pretty easy to establish residency in Pennsylvania to get in-state tuition (I don't know if you're out of state). However, I didn't even apply to Pitt because I never wanted to live in Pittsburgh again if I didn't have to. It's not all bad, but I am SO much happier living in a more diverse, big city. Pittsburgh can actually be depressing at times. I love living in New York, but I am of course paying almost double the rent I was paying in Pittsburgh for an apartment half the size, and that hurts. BUT I love the life and energy right outside my door.

In sum, if you don't mind living in Pittsburgh and aren't dying to live in New York, go to Pitt. It's a good school and it's worth saving the money.
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Only thing that isn't true is the the residency. All the students at the interview said it was very hard to get.
 
listen to sinner saint elnaz....boroh pittsburgh, az nyu kheileeh behtareh 🙂
 
listen to sinner saint elnaz....boroh pittsburgh, az nyu kheileeh behtareh 🙂
 
NYU over U conn? that's something unheard of. Pitt has pretty good rep. If I could ever be in your shoe, I def choose Pitt over NYU
 
my question is that why isn't there a ranking system for dental schools?
 
elnaz_GW said:
my question is that why isn't there a ranking system for dental schools?
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You are expected to be capable of making this decision yourself. Rankings are bad for the schools as a whole.
 
elnaz_GW said:
because U conn integrates medical school into their dental program for the first two years. I am not interested in studying about the physiology of arm and foot. That's why.
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You will have to learn about the "physiology" of at least the arms, possibly even the feet, for your boards. So you might not avoid it no matter which school you attend.
 
Yellow Snow said:
You are expected to be capable of making this decision yourself. Rankings are bad for the schools as a whole.
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unfortunately I hear great stuff about every school and that is why it's becoming so hard for me to decide.
 
elnaz....most likely going to pitt....choose pitt!!! all the cool people are going there hehe 😛
 
Hi
I interviewd at both places, and I think students at pitt were happier, it had a cozy feeling and people seemed to be close, versus NYU which has a lot more students in class, so I personally prefer smaller class, I know they NYU has the same profess/stud ratio as many schools, but still, I felt you'll be on your own mostly there...
Besides as everyone else mentioned, cost of living is impo {much cheaper at pitt}

also dental schools had rankings a couple of years ago, but the rankings were eliminated, since the scope of each school was so different than others than it was like comparing apples to oranges, some were great clinically, whereas some were great in research, and yet some were great in producing high boards... so they decided to eliminate rankins...

good luck and congrats
 
Go to NYU.....if it's the only place you get into. My cousin goes there and she and a bunch of other students i bumped into said the same thing. Actually, my cousin said to go there only if you get one of the few full scholarships. Then it's worth it.
 
dentist2b7007 said:
elnaz....most likely going to pitt....choose pitt!!! all the cool people are going there hehe 😛
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are you really planning on going to pitt? if so I am glad at least I know one person so far 🙂
 
I will go to Pitt too~~😍 Now at least you know 2😛
 
i can't believe you didn't choose MICHIGAN
 
it's in Ann Arbor I don't think I can live there for 4 years. If it were in detroit i would have reconsidered but I just didn't like Ann Arbor
 
is it really that hard to get instate residency. At my interview at UPitt they said it was relatively easy? I have been accepted there and am probably planning on attending in 2007.
 
Pitt's the better of the two.
 
I honestly believe NYUCD, in the next 5-10 years, will become one of the top 3 dental schools in the nation in terms of:

1) prestige - the first 3 letters in NYUCD is NYU... a so-called 'new ivy' that attracts the most # of undergrad applications... a school with a famous law and medical school... a school with a top business school in Stern... and I'm a big proponent of a school's "brand name"... trust me, if you know how to use it, it is worth it. as NYU grows, NYUCD grows, no doubt about it.

2) admissions competitiveness - the # of apps has gone up from 2500 to 3000 to 4200 in the past 3 years, roughly, despite the popular image that NYU is a safety school that costs an arm and a leg. so many of my classmates comes from top 20 undergrad institutions. most of my buddies have scored 21+ on the DAT.

3) research funding - has the only dental-school based clinical research setting in the nation... has a huge $26.7M NIDCR grant, which is actually larger than any grant that even NYU Sch of Medicine ever received... moved up from the bottom 50% to the top 8 in a matter of few years among all private dental schools in terms of research $... will continue to improve... in terms of NIDCR grants, it was #8 in 2005, and is now #5 this year. it's unbelievable to know the prominent research faculty that are here, and the ones that are being hired on an annual basis

4) publicity/media presence - it's in NY, and the amount of media attention and citations in newspapers/magazines/local television/etc vis-a-vis the faculty is amazing. on the international level, NYUCD is perhaps the most prominent dental school in terms of recognition - there's a reason why dozens of foreign dentists and specialists come to NYU for weekend courses, cont. ed. seminars, special programs almost on a weekly basis.

5) partnerships with industry - its big size attracts companies in various verticals... dental equipment guys... pharma... practice management related... the levin group has an exclusive partnership with the school... I was paid $500 to participate in a 3-hour study earlier this year, from a clinical study on chewing gum... industry simply pours money into the school, because they are interested in getting the attention of the biggest school in the nation - NYUCD

6) partnerships with local docs/clinicans - the PEARL network is just one example... the sheer number of part-time faculty here is amazing to me... the biggest dental school in the country naturally attracts a large number of dentists to receive continuing education... rosenthal inst of esthetic dentistry is just one example

7) the influence of the dental school in the overall university setting - our former dean has taken on the position of exec vp for NYU as a whole... unlike other schools (Columbia and Harvard come to mind, where the dental school, to me, seems to be just a poor cousin of its powerful medical school, in terms of size, facilities, faculty prominence, etc.), NYU's dental school takes a prominent position even against the medical school, law, Stern (business), etc within NYU

8) NYC - the location, its diversity, the size, the influence... trust me, it matters.... you see everything here, in terms of diversity in patients, the faculty, the students, the PG residents... to the actual cases that come in through the doors

9) Dominance within the city and the state - approximately 33% of all practicing dentists in the state of NY are NYUCD alums... leads to natural networking/connections post-graduation

10) facilities - so much of everything is brand spanking new. i truly believe it just a small sign among many... in that the school is putting some of its dark past behind it to take a national leadership role in the field of dentistry. the rumors about dropping out are false. the mentoring/counseling program here is actually annoying - i get weekly emails offering students counseling sessions and mentorship programs. faculty-to-student ratio in both didactic and clinical classes is superb.

I don't know much about Pitt - I assume it's a great school. But the reasons which make NYUCD a great (or a terrible) choice - size, prominence, money, publicity, etc. - are lacking in almost every other dental school. Of course, if you agreed with "terrible" inside the parenthesis above, you should avoid a big place like NYUCD like the plague...

dentstd said:
Pitt's the better of the two.
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Were you accepted to all those schools? If so, pick the school that has 1) more patients for you to work on. 2) Better facilities 3) Not NYU. I have only heard bad things about that school.
 
ok id say go to pitt, ive shadowed 2 different dentists in new jersey who both own 2 practices each with 5/6 dentists at each(a place where many recent grads go to and shuffle out of once they get the experience its a practice with high volume patients great for training and speeed) and based on what they said the students that have come from NYU seem to not be as strong in doing root canals vs. other dental schools and are not as fast(which i personally witnessed)...and i also overheard a recent grad from nyu saying she didnt feel very comfortable working on root canals... now im not saying all nyu students are like this but the fact that two separate dentists would have made remarks like this makes me think that clinically they may not be preparing EVERY single student with the necessary skills to compete with students from other schools in terms of clinical experience
 
NYUCD2010 said:
I honestly believe NYUCD, in the next 5-10 years, will become one of the top 3 dental schools in the nation in terms of:

1) prestige - the first 3 letters in NYUCD is NYU... a so-called 'new ivy' that attracts the most # of undergrad applications... a school with a famous law and medical school... a school with a top business school in Stern... and I'm a big proponent of a school's "brand name"... trust me, if you know how to use it, it is worth it. as NYU grows, NYUCD grows, no doubt about it.

2) admissions competitiveness - the # of apps has gone up from 2500 to 3000 to 4200 in the past 3 years, roughly, despite the popular image that NYU is a safety school that costs an arm and a leg. so many of my classmates comes from top 20 undergrad institutions. most of my buddies have scored 21+ on the DAT.

3) research funding - has the only dental-school based clinical research setting in the nation... has a huge $26.7M NIDCR grant, which is actually larger than any grant that even NYU Sch of Medicine ever received... moved up from the bottom 50% to the top 8 in a matter of few years among all private dental schools in terms of research $... will continue to improve... in terms of NIDCR grants, it was #8 in 2005, and is now #5 this year. it's unbelievable to know the prominent research faculty that are here, and the ones that are being hired on an annual basis

4) publicity/media presence - it's in NY, and the amount of media attention and citations in newspapers/magazines/local television/etc vis-a-vis the faculty is amazing. on the international level, NYUCD is perhaps the most prominent dental school in terms of recognition - there's a reason why dozens of foreign dentists and specialists come to NYU for weekend courses, cont. ed. seminars, special programs almost on a weekly basis.

5) partnerships with industry - its big size attracts companies in various verticals... dental equipment guys... pharma... practice management related... the levin group has an exclusive partnership with the school... I was paid $500 to participate in a 3-hour study earlier this year, from a clinical study on chewing gum... industry simply pours money into the school, because they are interested in getting the attention of the biggest school in the nation - NYUCD

6) partnerships with local docs/clinicans - the PEARL network is just one example... the sheer number of part-time faculty here is amazing to me... the biggest dental school in the country naturally attracts a large number of dentists to receive continuing education... rosenthal inst of esthetic dentistry is just one example

7) the influence of the dental school in the overall university setting - our former dean has taken on the position of exec vp for NYU as a whole... unlike other schools (Columbia and Harvard come to mind, where the dental school, to me, seems to be just a poor cousin of its powerful medical school, in terms of size, facilities, faculty prominence, etc.), NYU's dental school takes a prominent position even against the medical school, law, Stern (business), etc within NYU

8) NYC - the location, its diversity, the size, the influence... trust me, it matters.... you see everything here, in terms of diversity in patients, the faculty, the students, the PG residents... to the actual cases that come in through the doors

9) Dominance within the city and the state - approximately 33% of all practicing dentists in the state of NY are NYUCD alums... leads to natural networking/connections post-graduation

10) facilities - so much of everything is brand spanking new. i truly believe it just a small sign among many... in that the school is putting some of its dark past behind it to take a national leadership role in the field of dentistry. the rumors about dropping out are false. the mentoring/counseling program here is actually annoying - i get weekly emails offering students counseling sessions and mentorship programs. faculty-to-student ratio in both didactic and clinical classes is superb.

I don't know much about Pitt - I assume it's a great school. But the reasons which make NYUCD a great (or a terrible) choice - size, prominence, money, publicity, etc. - are lacking in almost every other dental school. Of course, if you agreed with "terrible" inside the parenthesis above, you should avoid a big place like NYUCD like the plague...
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I just dont like the fact that the class size is over 200, I want a better faculty to student ratio
 
Supposedly from what I've heard, the faculty : student ratio is 1:6 which would be comprable to many other schools
 
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