NYU vs. Temple University Which would you go to?

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NYU ... great school and location.
Very modern and excellent facilities.
They have that really cool testing area.
 
SHould we placed emphasis on cost?

I mean NYU cost soo much more than Temple. But in the long run, if we graduate, the difference isn't all that much. Right?

Living in NYU is such a dream and this is the perfect opportunity.. But again.. the money...

One can never be sure one will actually graduate.
 
did you get into both? If so, please choose NYU and call temple and tell them to give your spot to superfinger45. I'd really appreciate it!
 
Or to Yellow Snow. You could give your spot to Yellow Snow. This weekend still could be a success for me.
 
If I got into both schools, I would pick NYU. I mean, yes, the cost sucks... but the cost sucks at Temple too and at least with NYU, you get to live in Manhattan... but why am I encouraging you??? Hehehe... I want in on NYU... so yeah, go to Temple. 😉

Cheesily (and as cliche as can be), follow your heart!
 
But seriously, I'll give you a pros and cons list.

NYU
Pros:
in Manhattan
very high tech

Cons:
Pretty expensive
Very large class

Temple
Pros:
Cheaper
Has a DDS/MBA program which I think is pretty awesome
still in civilization

Cons:
I heard the area isn't that great (but let's face it, chances are dental students don't live in Park Avenue in New York City... so you could end up living in an equally "bad" neighborhood in NY)

I'm not trying to dissuade you from any school. I am just rectifying my anti-Templeness... (It's cuz I got rejected from there and I was feeling anti-Temple earlier). So yeah, there's a more unbiased outlook.
 
My take:

NYU:
Pros - Very high tech and progressive. Did you look at the stuff in the folder they gave you at the interview? Very much concerned with leading the charge towards the future of dental education. Plus, NY is amazing. Amazing. And I think the large class size can be a positive because there are that many more resources and opportunities.

Cons - Expensive. Can get lost in the crowd if you don't have much initiative. The stigma (at least on SDN) of attending the "safety" dental school (although I think that's changing and by the time 2011 comes along, if NYU continues in the direction they're going they will have a dental program that is on par with the other professional schools at NYU -- Stern, Med school, etc. The University is very supportive.) I don't like not having my own instruments.

Temple:
Pros - Seemed like a very tight-knit community of students and faculty. The location is perfect for a patient pool -- just take one look at how packed the main lobby was! Excess of chairs so scheduling will be less of a headache. Emphasis on all-around clinical preparation -- students do very well on part II boards. DMD/MBA program seems intriguing although I don't know when anyone could possibly find the time.


Cons - Exactly the opposite of NYU in their take on progressive dental education and technology. Paper charts, no digital radiographs, and no real plans for change that I was made aware of. Own lab work takes a lot of your time and seems kind of unnecessary. I also don't think I like those little carts you have to roll around -- especially with the elevator situation the way it was.

All in all, I think I liked both schools about the same. Cost aside, NYU has the edge in my book mostly because they are so focused on improving. Although I would hate to choose a school just on cost, it is a serious consideration.
 
Mackchops said:
I also don't think I like those little carts you have to roll around -- especially with the elevator situation the way it was.
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This will be the last thing on your mind while you are in school.

Like the above said...

Cost

Area to live (Manhattan is cool, Temple will not be violent to you (just between thugs) and Philly center city is very fun. NYU is still 2 hours north if you get a manhattan urge...

Program-Temple is oldschool in some stuff but clinically you will come out extrememly confident.

again it boils down to your choice.
 
NYU..
Top-notch facilities.. spending 4 years in Manhattan..etc.
Yeah, the cost is scary... but I think the pros outweigh the cons
 
Honestly, you all seem a little naive about ignoring the cost of dental school. Have you actually planned out your expenses and realized that if I go to "X" dental school, I will be paying off $20,000 of debt for 10 years after I graduate (which will probably be the case for NYU).

Also, Temple probably has the best clinical exposure you'll see on the east coast. When you graduate, you want to be able to do confidently do a root canal on the 2nd pre-molar, not be up to date on the newest technology (which you can learn easily by taking some extra courses after graduation).
 
The COST is largely due to housing in the area. You can live in Harlem (CU) and the cost'd go down dramatically.
 
Speaking to some dental students I was told that NYU has a reputation for asking students to leave if their GPA is not high enough and that it wasn't unusual for the graduating class to have 100 people less than came in.

Now, I didn't even apply to NYU so I have absolutely no ulterior motives, I'm just repeating what I was told by a few dental students.
 
Keep in mind that if you choose NYU because it's in NY you won't be able to afford to DO anything in NY. A subway pass cost appx. $80/ mo. - heck even MOVIES are expensive. I lived there for 4 years and had a job that paid over 60K and I STILL couldn't afford to do things in that city. So keep that in mind.
 
... and that said- go to NYU b/c I want to go to Temple!
 
Go to Temple. They have great clinical.
 
Hey guys...

K ill give you my perspective from choosing NYU last year over other schools like tufts and BU. I am a first year D1 and I dont regret choosing this school at all. We are wrapping up our first semester in a few weeks, the curriculum is challenging if you want to get straight A's, but really do able if you study hard to manage B+s to A-s. The faculty to student ratio is actually really good, in the bench lab we would have 2 faculty members per row which had 12 people, so thats 1:6. And I think you get as much help as you can get, since I came from a large university. The school is really out to help the ones that are struggling, with constant emails of telling people to go see this person and that if they are having troubles but since rumors spread fast, i have yet to hear one person that is failing or about to fail. If you come to NYU you will most likely live in the dorms if you dont want to come here to look for your own place. The price for the dorms are $1500 per month, right next to the school and in the core of manhatten where you can go anywhere from here. Seriously, I doubted NYU at first when I chose it, but the past few months have been good, and i know it is up to the individual to make the best out of their dental school, meaning the faculty will always be there to help you succeed but if you don't put in the effort there is no point. Our class averages for all the exams so far i would say would be 83-85 ish, so the whole class works pretty hard. If your worrying about the class size, don't because you still will get enough interaction. There are too many tutorials here and there to help people review the material, and those sessions are small, eg 12 people per anatomy lab review session. Anyways thought Id give you my perspective. Good luck.
 
Personally I would choose NYU.

NYU:
1. Like people above said, it's heading toward the right direction of dental education
2. It has really EVERYTHING about dentistry. They even get news coverage and you have a chance to perform dental procedure on TV 😛
3. They're known internationally much more than other schools, reason simply being they accept many international dentists for various reasons.
4. the drop out rate is NOT true...this is like the 5th time i type this, if u gone to interview or open house of NYU, you would know this is not true. (not even close...)
5. Hot and smoking facility and technology

Temple is a good school in the sense that it has just amazing clinical program, but that doesn't mean NYU sucks. They also have lots of patients. As to the cost comparison, temple isn't THAT cheap either, but the living cost would space things out.

I think NYU has got something going on in their dental education. They're changing lots of stuff and trying to be on top.

Temple certainly isn't bad either, they just need more funds to renovate their facility. The program is truly superb.
 
temple because NYU has sooo many students and its going to be impossible to beat out all the other students in order to specialize
 
thank you everyone for your inputs.

I thought getting in was hard.. choosing is not a piece of cake either.. apparently..
 
I'm asking same question to myself too. NYU has kickass facilities and hot looking girls, but Temple has very strong strong clinical program. I have to sleep over and over about this question😕 😕 😕
 
I'm still very much torn between the two.
does anyone else have the same problem? I wonder if there's anyway to get a scholarship after matriculating already. I mean, right now, I m not qualified for any merit scholarship, but I wonder if there's any available if I do really well in my first year in Dental school
 
My sister is a 2D at NYU and she loves it! We're from Florida so it was a big adjustment but she doesn't regret it at all. The class size is really not a big deal because there are more faculty and you get to meet a lot more people. Even though dental school takes up a lot of your time, you still get a life and what better life then NEW YORK CITY! They are always organizing class parties and they have lots of cool clubs to choose from. Your first week you go on a night "booze" cruise in the harbor with all the faculty! The school is in an awesome location and if you get a place in Peter Cooper Village or Stuyvesant Town (sp?) then you can just walk to class every morning.

I got into my state school (36 grand 🙂 ) but otherwise I would go there in an instant!

Good luck on your decision and if you want to know more details about NYU, message me and I can ask my sister or you can contact her directly.
 
I just got back from interviewing at these 2 schools. I loved temple despite the "area." Brian made a good pt about us preaching how we wanna help the community and then steer away when the opportunity is offered to us bc of the "area." I found that to be very inspiring. I didnt really like NYU, but thats only because of personal preference. According to my interviewer, he did say NYU has below average part 2 board scores. haha, im not sure if this really matters to anyone but that doesnt sound to appealing to me. that and the cost of NYU is much higher than Temple.

Temple
Pro: Huge patient base, clinically superior, diverse cases, community oriented, i liked the atmosphere..everyone is down to earth.

Con: None really.

NYU:
Pro: In NY, decent patient base, nice facilities (felt like i was in a hotel).

Con: price, board scores, class size.

Hands down, I'd pick temple.
 
Trust me. I am from NY area but settled down in PHiladelphia, PA...

Pick NYU...You would be happy....
 
As they say, location, location, location. You can't beat NYU in terms of location.
 
It seems that everyone comes back from the Temple interview and talks about how much clinical experience the student there get because we were spoon fed the info at the meeting but is there really any truth to it? I was the same way but when I look back at it, I wonder if it's really that superior in clinical experience or is that what they claim. I was given the example of a junior student doing implants, but....... what about the other 100 or so kids, what are they doing? Most likely, the same thing as students at other schools.

But the major con at Temple --> you are responsible for your patient to pay his/her bills !!!!!! 😱

Good luck with that.
 
The HUGE con --> You need to make sure your patient pays or it becomes your debt. On top of school, I don't want that responsibility!
 
TJJ said:
The HUGE con --> You need to make sure your patient pays or it becomes your debt. On top of school, I don't want that responsibility!
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I don't get why you people think this is such a huge negative. This is one of the best things about this school. If you don't have the guts to collect your money now from your patients (which a lot of you will think that they are trashy, scum of the earth people), how are you gonna have the guts to collect money from people you respect? If this is something you are worried about now, why not learn how to do it when you will lose a lot less money as a student then you will when are trying to run your own practice. And don't think people are gonna pay you when you get out of school.

People for the most part are cheap. They will do anything to get out paying for things, especially dentistry. People don't think dentistry is neccessary. They think it is nice, and will be grateful when you help them, but most would rather buy a new television/car/plastic surgery then get dental work done. Why not learn how to collect money in school, when it doesn't matter and you can make mistakes and not have it cost you very much, then learn how to do it when it costs you a whole lot more? I guess I just don't understand you guys.
 
I'd choose Temple.
What's more important to you? Spending 4 yrs in Manhattan as a New Yorker or spending 20 yrs feeling more confident about your role as a dentist?
Yeah, you gotta be ready to be on your toes and be a multi-tasker @ Temple, but learn it the hard way and it'll only get easier
 
I've spoken to a lot of dentists that I've shadowed (one in private practice, one on staff at a hospital, and lottsss of OMFS residents). When I told them that I applied to NYU they all told me to withdraw my application. Apparently, right now in the dental field NYU has a really bad reputation. One of the 4th-year OMFS residents even said he has not yet seen a competent dentist from NYU... I'm not sure how much they are exaggerating, but they all believed that the program has gotten really bad within the past few years.

After interviewing there and seeing NYU for myself, it doesn't seem as bad as everyone had made it out to be. Even so, I was really surprised with all the posts favoring NYU over Temple. Just from what I've heard, I thought it was a general feeling that NYU did not have a great program.

Anyway, good luck with whatever u end up choosing!
 
I've heard from some that NYU graduates suck clinically and are totally incompetent in their residency programs and basically have to be taught stuff they shouldve already known.

Again,this is stuff I've heard,not my own observations or anything.
 
johntara04 said:
I don't get why you people think this is such a huge negative. This is one of the best things about this school. If you don't have the guts to collect your money now from your patients (which a lot of you will think that they are trashy, scum of the earth people), how are you gonna have the guts to collect money from people you respect? If this is something you are worried about now, why not learn how to do it when you will lose a lot less money as a student then you will when are trying to run your own practice. And don't think people are gonna pay you when you get out of school.

People for the most part are cheap. They will do anything to get out paying for things, especially dentistry. People don't think dentistry is neccessary. They think it is nice, and will grateful when you help them, but most would rather buy a new television/car/plastic surgery then get dental work done. Why not learn how to collect money in school, when it doesn't matter and you can make mistakes and not have it cost you very much, then learn how to do it when it costs you a whole lot more? I guess I just don't understand you guys.
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I agree 100%..

I mean come on people.. something as important as getting your patients to pay is a very valuable thing to learn and get used to in d-school when it doesnt matter vs. being a practicing dentist who doesnt have a backbone to get people to pay their bill. With that said, I'd love to be a patient of your practice!! :laugh:
 
After being accepted into both school I am leaning towards Temple. It seemed like they had a better clinical program, but NYU was close. NYU may have the technology, but Temple has the patients, and all the tech. you need.
 
waikiki said:
I'd choose Temple.
What's more important to you? Spending 4 yrs in Manhattan as a New Yorker or spending 20 yrs feeling more confident about your role as a dentist?
Yeah, you gotta be ready to be on your toes and be a multi-tasker @ Temple, but learn it the hard way and it'll only get easier
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I doubt it.. do they really feel "MORE" confident than the graduates from other schools for the rest of their lives?
I mean... in Temple, if students pull out more teeth than in other school.. they might feel a little more confident after they graduate..maybe.. for 2 or 3 years at most?
but C'mon.. you won't feel less confident than a Temple graduate for the rest of your life for having done your work in other schools..

providing more teeth to pull out is definitely a good thing.. but that doesnt make a school the best.
 
actually I would disagree. First of all, your board exams are timed, and if you can't finish on time, you will not pass. A benefit of having lots of pateints is that it provides you with confidence and exposure to actual dental work. Therefore, when you take your boards, you will have already done the procedures many times and thus proceed to finish on time.

Secondly, there are some procedures that some dental school students will not be exposed to during their time in school. At Temple, you will see a variety of cases. This will only make you more competent when you graduate. This is coming from someone who knows Temple Dental graduates and has seen them practice in the clinic.
 
Revelde said:
I doubt it.. do they really feel "MORE" confident than the graduates from other schools for the rest of their lives?
I mean... in Temple, if students pull out more teeth than in other school.. they might feel a little more confident after they graduate..maybe.. for 2 or 3 years at most?
but C'mon.. you won't feel less confident than a Temple graduate for the rest of your life for having done your work in other schools..

providing more teeth to pull out is definitely a good thing.. but that doesnt make a school the best.
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Your right. Being a graduate from Temple may only give you a couple of years advantage over other schools. BUT, the first few years are huge in your future wealth. The sooner you put away money, the sooner you can retire. I would love to get out of school with my feet running, and be able to get out of debt sooner, save for retirement sooner, etc, then have to take a few years to catch up. This is my personal opinion, though.
 
What is the cost for next year at Temple and NYU? The numbers on Predents are pretty far off for each school I interviewed at.
 
Every school I have interviewed, and investigated, have had the stipulation that your patients are your patients and you are responsible for them making their payments. Most schools I know about, require the outstanding bills for these patients to be paid before graduating, by you or them. If anyone knows which schools do not have this policy, please reply.
 
osubum said:
Every school I have interviewed, and investigated, have had the stipulation that your patients are your patients and you are responsible for them making their payments. Most schools I know about, require the outstanding bills for these patients to be paid before graduating, by you or them. If anyone knows which schools do not have this policy, please reply.
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I remember NYU saying they dont have this stipulation. The school deals with the patients paying for their services.
But I like why Temple does it the way they do, you have to learn how to collect payment from your patients sometime, and why not start off from the bat. Who knows maybe you will become the loan collector for your classmates, and show up with a bat and the doors and get the money, before you get shot at.:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
 
Its funny, my other career goal was to be hired muscle. Maybe I'll get a chance in Philly😀
 
I would rather do 20 root canals in dental school than do two in dental school and learn over the next 2 years outside of dental school...extractions are good, but mainly the other procedures are better.

Plus everyone in philly basically has meth-mouth or decay like they were raised on sugar. Seeing complicated cases like this and figuring out treatment planning will definaeeately pay off when:

A) you go back to the suburbs and do Class I-IV cavities in ten minutes tops like you were born with a drill in your hand and sucking on amalgam
B)doing this out of dental school as opposed to spending 4 hours with a mad patient trying to do their root canal...
C) If you are WANT you can do implants, more complicated procedures than at other dental schools.
 
Temple.

Think of how comfortable you will be with patients after d-school.

I don't think NYU's location is worth it (long term).
 
everybody says that Temple is far better clinically than nyu. Can anyone expand on that statement?
 
delta121 said:
everybody says that Temple is far better clinically than nyu. Can anyone expand on that statement?
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Temple ............. is.................. far................... better............... clinically ................. than...................... NYU. Is that expanded enough?
 
Both of my parents went to NYU (at different times) and I spent a lot of time up there as a child. My perspective is that "location" should play a very different role in professional school than in choosing where you want to live. I would choose Temple hands down. You want to go to school in or near a broken down, low income area where you will easily find patients with interesting cases. How many Manahatanites are going to choose a student to do their dentistry over a licensed practicioner? I love NY and yes it would be awesome to live there BUT that is a consideration to make once you are out of school and choosing where to LIVE not LEARN. If the upscale city lifestyle is your primary reason for going to NYU then you should wait until after you've gotten your life together academically and financially and THEN move to NYC. Or maybe you could do your residency there.

Just my 2 cents.
 
Temple:
Pro:
Cheap
Con:
When my bro went to temple law..some kids on bikes mugged him....

Thats all I'm saying.
 
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