NYU vs. TUFTS

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NYU or TUFTS?

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Mr. Z,

What do you think is the best single aspect of each school?

-Zanderale6
 
Tufts hands down
 
What is the class size at tufts, I know NYU is over 200.
 
nyu is about 230 while tufts is about 160, so both big classes. haven't been to tufts yet, but i was pleasantly surprised by nyu. it gets such a bad name on this forum, but i feel they have some good opportunities for their students. and nyc is amazing, but so is boston...two different flavors. i'll vote after i get back from tufts.
 
Both excellent schools. Very difficult decision indeed. My personal preference is for NYU.

NYU and tufts both have large incoming class--which I see as a big positive. The large class size means more opportunities, including more networking, technology, research etc.
 
Zanderale6 said:
Mr. Z,

What do you think is the best single aspect of each school?

-Zanderale6
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NYU - Location, perfect placement in NYC

Tufts - Smaller class size than NYU, better reputation?
 
pacbum said:
nyu is about 230 while tufts is about 160, so both big classes. haven't been to tufts yet, but i was pleasantly surprised by nyu. it gets such a bad name on this forum, but i feel they have some good opportunities for their students. and nyc is amazing, but so is boston...two different flavors. i'll vote after i get back from tufts.
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keep in mind the additional 100 international students that will join the NYU class during second year. so NYU is more like...340 student. thats about double Tuft. I hear pretty good things about both schools, but i would choose tuft because it has a smaller class size and slightly smaller price tag.
 
Envision said:
keep in mind the additional 100 international students that will join the NYU class during second year. so NYU is more like...340 student. thats about double Tuft. I hear pretty good things about both schools, but i would choose tuft because it has a smaller class size and slightly smaller price tag.
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Yea, Tufts also gets like 30 international students so that makes their class like 210. So then its still big too...
 
MrZ123 said:
I have narrowed my decision to these two schools, what do you all think?
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3.3......is that ur gpa or wat those two schools require?
 
MrZ123 said:
It is my GPA. What is that supposed to mean?
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Both great schools so you really can't make a wrong decision, but don't forget to call Stony Brook and withdraw your acceptance (ohh and tell them to give it to me PLEASE!!!) lol..
 
MrZ123 said:
I have narrowed my decision to these two schools, what do you all think?
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Not having personal experience at either school, but having recently discussed Tufts with a former graduate, I heard something that impressed me. He said he went to undergrad at Rutgers. He felt he got no respect. But, he did his medical training at Tufts. He said it was like a 180 degree turn. He said the pre-doctoral students there were revered, higher up than the doctors. Tufts respects it's students. This gentleman is active at Tufts today. Those words impressed me, although I can't vouch for recent grads today. They would have to offer you their opinion.
Good luck with your decision.
 
Lesley said:
Not having personal experience at either school, but having recently discussed Tufts with a former graduate, I heard something that impressed me. He said he went to undergrad at Rutgers. He felt he got no respect. But, he did his medical training at Tufts. He said it was like a 180 degree turn. He said the pre-doctoral students there were revered, higher up than the doctors. Tufts respects it's students. This gentleman is active at Tufts today. Those words impressed me, although I can't vouch for recent grads today. They would have to offer you their opinion.
Good luck with your decision.
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Good to know...
 
Tufts has a MUCH better reputation than NYU. 3 years ago, the class size was aboiut 150 with 20 international students added to the second year making graduating class about 170. It is not near 200 as another poster wrongly posted. I don't think these two schools are even in the same ballpark. Tufts is far better. It would be a mistake to choose NYU over Tufts.
 
Definitely Tufts. My classmate from undergrade went there and loved it. I also had a Kaplan teacher from there, the third-year dental student. He taught in Newton, a short ride to Harvard Squarre on the D-train. He said the best things about the School and how Tufts and Harvard dental students hang-out together. Among other things - great clinical exposure and ready to practice after four years.

I vote for Tufts. 👍
 
My best friend interviewed at NYU yesterday, and she was told that the student to faculty ratio is 7:1 and that there are over 500 faculty. Nobody on this thread has given any valid reasons why Tufts is a better school than NYU. Yes it is a big class, but their faculty have an open door policy...NO OFFICE HOURS...you just come when you want to....basically you have to take the initiative to get to know your faculty and seek them out if you are having problems...To be quite honest with you...being in a smaller class doesn't guarantee you success if you are having problems and not speaking with your professors...You have to take the initiative...So please stop spreading rumors that are three years old...be a little more professional!
 
MrZ123 said:
NYU - Location, perfect placement in NYC

Tufts - Smaller class size than NYU, better reputation?
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I personally didn't apply to NYU because I didn't like its huge class size. I can see Tufts being a more appealing school for that reason.

As far as reputation goes, I think you need to consider where you're planning on practicing later in life. If you plan to practice in NYC (which I assume you will ... ), is the Tufts reputation still going to be as strong / important?
 
I had the same decision to make, I choose NYU, going to NYU class of 2011!!

Reasons why I choose NYU over Tufts:
1. NYC
2. faculty vs. student ratio
3. newest anatomy learning method
4. all lectures typed out as a service
5. better technology (tufts have 3-4 groups of student sharing dentSim chairs, that means each chair have 3-4 students assigned to it) NYU only has 2 different groups. NYU has higher chairs to student ratio
6. Better Facility
7. Much more diverse patient pool and much larger patient pool as well
8. NYU has so many opportunities that tufts can't offer - Dental Van, community outreach, more research, especially clinical research, invisalign training, etc...

The negatives about NYU also exists for Tufts:
1. expensive tuition for both schools, about 40000 difference over 4 years...
2. large class sizes, but NYU actually have more chairs and faculty avaliable

The only thing I could think of that Tufts is better are:
1. Better national exam scores. Although NYU scores are on a rapid increasing trend.
2. Probably better reputation

I'm guessing that most of the people voted for Tufts because they saw threads on SDN that trashed NYU so they just think Tufts must be better. There are probably only a few people that really know the difference. Do some more research, go search previous threads on NYU and Tufts.

My conclusion after searching a long time on SDN old threads:
1. It's interesting to see that all the complains about NYU are NOT from NYU students but from people never went to NYU...
2. NYU is changing by the minutes, it's amazing to see their changes.
3. There are more people complaining about Tufts who are actually Tufts student.

Conclusion: I got nothing against Tufts, it's a good school. It was hard as hell to send that e-mail turning them down. But NYUCD really got something different. I don't want some 70 years old dentist come to my dental school and says: "Ah dental school is still the same just like 40 years ago" The world is changing and it needs a new dental curriculum and facility.
 
Just to echo what Starocean has said:

I've been accepted to NYU and unless I get into my state school, I will happily be attending. I was impressed by the same things as StaroceanX. I was also impressed by the students. I did not get the "cold" vibe that other people got. Maybe I caught them on a good day, maybe others caught them on a bad day...who knows? All (the handful we met) were friendly and helpful.

What I don't understand about the NYU bashing is that no one is coming up with any new insight. It's always "too large of class, expensive, they kick people out, etc." While class size and cost are huge things to consider, we've all heard it before. Tufts has a large class size and is quite expensive as well.

I would love to hear different negatives about NYU than the same 3 that are said over and over again. I loved the school.

That being said, I'm still waiting/wishing for an interview at Tufts. I've heard great things about it and I would love to check it out. Both schools should provide you with a great education and experience, this is a good problem to have.
 
agreed. All the negatives about NYU are the same thing over and over again...it's really time to get some new material for the folks who are all about the NYU bashing. I'm sure Tufts is a very good school, but I haven't seen it for myself. However, after researching/visiting/interviewing/been accepted at NYU...i KNOW it is a good school. Everyone talks about failing out, cost, the size, being just a "number", etc. etc. etc...we've heard it all before. I've said it before and i'll say it again...you have the potential to be just a number at ANY school if you dont put yourself out there and make the effort. There are many people who think that b/c of its high enrollment that it is automatically an easy/safety school...definitely not the case. Many people with great stats are being rejected...also, given the location they have to have a high enrollment. If the school took less than 100 people, tuiton would be almost twice what it is now..and even right now its only 50k..its the living expenses that get you. But, if you budget yourself and live within your means (you are still a student after all)...you will do just fine. I too and waiting to hear on some other schools, just so I can weigh out some options...but I would not be upset to attend NYU. It really does have everything you could want...but at the end of the day, you just have to go where you feel the happiest..and everyone who has an acceptance should be extremely thankful and proud, just think with the size of the applicant pool this year how many students wont be getting in
 
staroceanX said:
I had the same decision to make, I choose NYU, going to NYU class of 2011!!

Reasons why I choose NYU over Tufts:
1. NYC
2. faculty vs. student ratio
3. newest anatomy learning method
4. all lectures typed out as a service
5. better technology (tufts have 3-4 groups of student sharing dentSim chairs, that means each chair have 3-4 students assigned to it) NYU only has 2 different groups. NYU has higher chairs to student ratio
6. Better Facility
7. Much more diverse patient pool and much larger patient pool as well
8. NYU has so many opportunities that tufts can't offer - Dental Van, community outreach, more research, especially clinical research, invisalign training, etc...
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call me crazy, and these are some of the reasons why i'm honestly considering attending nyu over penn. like i said, i haven't been to tufts yet, but i'll be there next week to check things out. i would suggest visiting the schools again, if you're close by, or have other interviews in the area. go check out the housing, because that makes a difference. spend time in both cities. although both cities are awesome, they both have their own unique flavor. see which city you'd be happier with, because that's a big deal over teh next 4 years. but honestly, nyu is a great school. don't believe all this bunk said about it on these forums. they have great opportunities to those who take them. to those that don't seize those opportunities, they will always be unhappy at whatever dental school they will be at.

like i said, i can't really compare both schools without having seen tufts yet. but nyu is a solid dental school.
 
Comparisons of reputation is difficult to do for both schools. I'm sure that NYU is a very recognizable name, nationally and internationally. However, for Tufts, I'm not so sure. Tufts undergrad has always been known as a school for people who can't get into an Ivy, hence the name "Tufts syndrome" (essentially, Tufts intentionally chooses lower quality applicants who would love to go to Tufts, and reject applicants with higher stats who use the school as a backup): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yield_protection. However, Tufts undergrad is slightly better than NYU (usnews.com)

In terms of rankings, the 1992 Gourmand report (no longer valid) places Tufts at #8 and NYU at #9. USNews places NYU medical school at #32 and Tufts at #42. NYU business is #13 and NYU Law is #4, while Tufts is nowhere to be seen.
 
DDSY said:
Comparisons of reputation is difficult to do for both schools. I'm sure that NYU is a very recognizable name, nationally and internationally. However, for Tufts, I'm not so sure. Tufts undergrad has always been known as a school for people who can't get into an Ivy, hence the name "Tufts syndrome" (essentially, Tufts intentionally chooses lower quality applicants who would love to go to Tufts, and reject applicants with higher stats who use the school as a backup). However, Tufts undergrad is slightly better than NYU (usnews.com)

In terms of rankings, the 1992 Gourmand report (no longer valid) places Tufts at #8 and NYU at #9. USNews places NYU medical school at #32 and Tufts at #42. NYU business is #13 and NYU Law is #4, while Tufts is nowhere to be seen.
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A couple of things.....Don't quote the 1992 Gourman Report even if you state that it's no longer valid because it was 15 years ago. Were you the same person that you are today 15 years ago? Also, concerning reputation of the two schools. NYU and Tufts are nationally known for different things, but for DENTAL SCHOOL, there is nobody that considers NYU a more prestigeous DENTAL SCHOOL than Tufts. The dental community knows dental schools and there is no comparison when it comes to reputation. Medical school is a different thing entirely. It is hard to get into either medical school, but harder to get into NYU. As far as Dental school is concerned, I know people that got into NYU without even interviewing a few years ago, what does that say about it's reputation.
 
You're right, it's pretty difficult to rank the prestige of two schools--they are recognized for different things. But do realize that NYU, overall, has more name recognition as perceived by the general population. NYU even has the best film school (Tisch) in the nation--and what better publicity than having the best film school. Even if Tufts is a more recognized dental institution (among those in the dental population), the general population may not perceive it in that sense and may not even identify the "Tufts" name. However, I do recognize that Tufts has always been a reputable institution--as mentioned before, it was always considered near ivy (at least for undergrad) and is even considered ivy caliber (just like NYU) nowadays.

As far as prestige in terms of dental school, there are differing opinions in this forum. Many say that it's not important, and, in many ways, that's true. There are numerous factors involved and each school is different from each other.

OMFSdoc said:
A couple of things.....Don't quote the 1992 Gourman Report even if you state that it's no longer valid because it was 15 years ago. Were you the same person that you are today 15 years ago? Also, concerning reputation of the two schools. NYU and Tufts are nationally known for different things, but for DENTAL SCHOOL, there is nobody that considers NYU a more prestigeous DENTAL SCHOOL than Tufts. The dental community knows dental schools and there is no comparison when it comes to reputation. Medical school is a different thing entirely. It is hard to get into either medical school, but harder to get into NYU. As far as Dental school is concerned, I know people that got into NYU without even interviewing a few years ago, what does that say about it's reputation.
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I dont really get how people can say one school is more prestigious than others. In my opinion, NYU and Tufts are pretty much on the same page. Both large enrollments, both in big cities (although obviously NY is significantly larger), both offer great clinical educations....so whats the problem? You're in a good spot at either school...hell, a good spot to be in is to be accepted at ANY school. As far as the "dental" community goes and concerning which is more prestigious...i dont think it really matters. Personally, I think it comes down to a few factors...how much clinical experience you have (both are great), your board scores (which is more of a reflection on the student and his/her work ethic than what school you are attending), and you're overall adaptability to a practice. In the end, whether you went to Harvard, Columbia, NYU, Tufts....you have your degree. Being a good dentist is much more than where you went to school, its being able to apply everything you've learned..b/c from talking to interviewers...you will learn much more in your first year out of d-school than you ever did in school. Bottom line...go where you feel comfortable...you're abilities as a dentist are solely based on you, not your school. I love early morning rants
 
I absolutely agree with OMFdoc.

Note well: students are still getting in without interviews (besides other things going on at NYU)
 
I visited NYU and really liked it. I think they have changed. It had the nicest facilities I have seen and I think all of those rumors are no longer valid.
 
Why don't we get some actual NYU students to voice their opinion on their school? The last time I heard some true feedback from them was a couple years ago, and it wasn't good. I wonder if things are any different these days.
 
Any NYU students out there who are willing to comment?
 
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