NYU’s med school students are robots?

[john7991]

I checked the average GPA for students admitted to NYU’s med school; it’s 3.92

The average MCAT is 522

How does one compete with these people?

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[MyOdyssey]

I checked the average GPA for students admitted to NYU’s med school; it’s 3.92

The average MCAT is 522

How does one compete with these people?

How? Earn a GPA of at least 3.93 and a MCAT of at least 523…

 

[KnightDoc]

I checked the average GPA for students admitted to NYU’s med school; it’s 3.92

The average MCAT is 522

How does one compete with these people?

???? They're not robots. They're rock stars.

You have to be in the top 36% to be admitted to ANY US MD program. Did you think being admitted to a tuition-free T5 program was going to be easy?

Most of us simply don't compete with them. They are the top 150 or so out of the 60,000 +/- in the pool. Either you have the numbers, PLUS everything else, or you don't.

 

[deleted1114112]

Interesting this post comes up now as I came to ask questions about not hearing back in a month in the NYU thread 🙁

But I would disagree with KnightDoc. 25% of admits are still below a 518. I am in-state (not that it matters) and interviewed there with a MCAT score below 516. I think logically many good applicants have high MCATs but if you are better than them and have a lower MCAT you aren't out of the running. It's just that there aren't a lot of 510-515 MCATs walking around with high level research or insane x-factors; most of those people also get 520+.

Don't get me wrong those stats are very high and I am sure people with 525+ and little to nothing else on their application get in, but it's not as black and white as "you have the numbers or you don't" unless you are egregiously below medians.

 

[MyOdyssey]

Interesting this post comes up now as I came to ask questions about not hearing back in a month in the NYU thread 🙁

But I would disagree with KnightDoc. 25% of admits are still below a 518. I am in-state (not that it matters) and interviewed there with a MCAT score below 516. I think logically many good applicants have high MCATs but if you are better than them and have a lower MCAT you aren't out of the running. It's just that there aren't a lot of 510-515 MCATs walking around with high level research or insane x-factors; most of those people also get 520+.

Don't get me wrong those stats are very high and I am sure people with 525+ and little to nothing else on their application get in, but it's not as black and white as "you have the numbers or you don't" unless you are egregiously below medians.

What X factors made you competitive in the NYU pool?

 

[KnightDoc]

Interesting this post comes up now as I came to ask questions about not hearing back in a month in the NYU thread 🙁

But I would disagree with KnightDoc. 25% of admits are still below a 518. I am in-state (not that it matters) and interviewed there with a MCAT score below 516. I think logically many good applicants have high MCATs but if you are better than them and have a lower MCAT you aren't out of the running. It's just that there aren't a lot of 510-515 MCATs walking around with high level research or insane x-factors; most of those people also get 520+.

Don't get me wrong those stats are very high and I am sure people with 525+ and little to nothing else on their application get in, but it's not as black and white as "you have the numbers or you don't" unless you are egregiously below medians.

Actually, the 25%-ile in the current MSAR is 519, and that means 519 and below, not just below 519, or 518. 10%-ile is 517. Nationally, that is 94%-ile, but it is 10%-ile at NYU. Of course, there are always outliers with spectacular X-factors (a whopping 13 or so who have MCATs at or below 517), but I respectfully stand by what I said.

By the way, I doubt there are people at NYU with 525+ and nothing else. A full half the class is above 522, and I'm pretty sure all of them have X-factors as well. To me, it really does look like you either have the numbers or you don't, given how high all of their numbers are, even the 10%-ile. The vast majority of the people with the numbers also don't really have a prayer, given how many people have the numbers (probably around 2,500 at 520 or above) and how small the class is.

Congratulations on receiving the II. You are definitely an outlier, just based on the reported numbers. I wish you all the luck in the world, but, until you receive an A, you are not part of that 10%, regardless of how spectacular your X-factor is. Around 1,000 people receive IIs, but only around 135 or so receive As. If you do receive an A with a 516, you will be part of a very special group (around 13 out of 10,000+ applicants), and 516 is a pretty damn high 92%ile in its own right.

 

[MyOdyssey]

Actually, the 25%-ile in the current MSAR is 519, and that means 519 and below, not just below 519, or 518. 10%-ile is 517. Nationally, that is 94%-ile, but it is 10%-ile at NYU. Of course, there are always outliers with spectacular X-factors (a whopping 13 or so who have MCATs at or below 517), but I respectfully stand by what I said.

By the way, I doubt there are people at NYU with 525+ and nothing else. A full half the class is above 522, and I'm pretty sure all of them have X-factors as well. To me, it really does look like you either have the numbers or you don't, given how high all of their numbers are, even the 10%-ile. The vast majority of the people with the numbers also don't really have a prayer, given how many people have the numbers (probably around 2,500 at 520 or above) and how small the class is.

Congratulations on receiving the II. You are definitely an outlier, just based on the reported numbers. I wish you all the luck in the world, but, until you receive an A, you are not part of that 10%, regardless of how spectacular your X-factor is. Around 1,000 people receive IIs, but only around 135 or so receive As. If you do receive an A with a 516, you will be part of a very special group (around 13 out of 10,000+ applicants), and 516 is a pretty damn high 92%ile in its own right.

Anon_help00 didn’t claim to have received a score of 516.

 

[KnightDoc]

Anon_help00 didn’t claim to have received a score of 516.

Oops. My bad, but it kind of has to be close, no? My point is exactly the same whether the score is 516 or 514.

 

[doomer_md]

OP you seem to have this unhealthy fixation with NYU… Best to let it go to save you the disappointment.

 

[Dogruffle01]

I checked the average GPA for students admitted to NYU’s med school; it’s 3.92

The average MCAT is 522

How does one compete with these people?

The 4 people I know who received IIs from NYU ( myself included) didn’t have insane ECs, unless you count URM status as insane. If so 3 were URMs I think the mcat scores were 521,518, and 520. My other invited friend was Korean and had a 520+ and near 4.0 but his ECs were solid but not out of this world ( a few pubs and D3 soccer).

Like any earlier person said. The people who get 518+ are usually the same people who have good ECs.

Another aspect that is special to NYU is their post-II acceptance rate of 20%. I can only speak to my own experiences, but I felt the MMI was the most informal and analytic. I think a big part of my selling factor is my personality, and due to the nature of the interview I didn’t feel I was really able to showcase it as much as other schools. Dean Rivera even said that the interview portion is highly weighted in their evaluation, so a lot of high stat people may be lost here.

 

[voxveritatisetlucis]

You don’t need insane ECs to get an II, but it sure does help when it comes to converting the II to an A, considering how few they accept post IJ

 

[gyngyn]

OP's NYU interests have been more than adequately covered in their other threads.
Closing.