Off-Site Flu Clinics

[FarmD711]

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I work for one of the Big3 and had questions about how other areas / chains work off-site flu clinics.

I did my first one last week, gave over 70 shots in 2 hours. Was unhappy to find that the chain does not pay for the time we spent on the clinic, not even for the time spent giving shots. Had a technician with me who worked over 7 hours between setting up supplies, driving to clinic, filling out paperwork, and then returning to the store to process the 70 claims. They are only getting paid for 3 hours bc that's all that is 'approved'.

I find it incredible that we accept the liability for giving these flu shots and are not even compensated for SOME of the time we spent administering them. Is this the norm? True my store gets credit for the shots, but I gave up my entire day off to work 9 hours for free and am expected to do it again next month. Is this normal? I know being screwed by the chains is expected but this seems out there.

 

[chuckle beast]

When I worked for cvs I added time at clinic to my base hours for pay that week

 

[FarmD711]

That's what I was expecting to do. I was told no by my Pharmacy Sup

 

[mursepharmd]

my advice:never do those off site clinics. You never get paid and if you do it is only for a set amount of hours (usually 3 to 4hours) and never the actual hours that you spent driving to the site,preparing and cleaning up after. It is also a liability to you since you weren't on the clock so therefore it anything happened the burden may fall on to you only and the company may not have your back.

 

[grumps]

I work for one of the Big3 and had questions about how other areas / chains work off-site flu clinics.

I did my first one last week, gave over 70 shots in 2 hours. Was unhappy to find that the chain does not pay for the time we spent on the clinic, not even for the time spent giving shots. Had a technician with me who worked over 7 hours between setting up supplies, driving to clinic, filling out paperwork, and then returning to the store to process the 70 claims. They are only getting paid for 3 hours bc that's all that is 'approved'.

I find it incredible that we accept the liability for giving these flu shots and are not even compensated for SOME of the time we spent administering them. Is this the norm? True my store gets credit for the shots, but I gave up my entire day off to work 9 hours for free and am not expected to do it again next month. Is this normal? I know being screwed by the chains is expected but this seems out there.

You've gotta be nuts. That's a shot q 2 minutes! Let's play Russian Roulette with our licenses. What I would do is document all this BS for now. Especially any veiled threats if you don't participate in these clinics. Keep any threatening emails. Use your phone camera to document how you look after 9 hours of working for free nonstop w/o a break. Document what time you get home, videolog what you have to do, take a shower, take a dump, eat, and try to get enough sleep before opening up on your regular schedule an understaffed store.

 

[FarmD711]

You've gotta be nuts. That's a shot q 2 minutes! Let's play Russian Roulette with our licenses. What I would do is document all this BS for now. Especially any veiled threats if you don't participate in these clinics. Keep any threatening emails. Use your phone camera to document how you look after 9 hours of working for free nonstop w/o a break. Document what time you get home, videolog what you have to do, take a shower, take a dump, eat, and try to get enough sleep before opening up on your regular schedule an understaffed store.

Yeah I agree! And all the money that the chain made on me doing this work and they can't even compensate me and my technician for our time.

Honestly, even if they just paid me for the 2 hours I actually gave shots I'd feel a little less taken advantage of. DM just said "you get paid in other ways"....meaning shut up and accept your salary I think.

 

[nnguyenc]

there's a module called "Recording Hours Worked" that your DM might have missed

 

[FarmD711]

He says it doesn't apply to exempt salaried workers. So that puts me out.


Should at least pay my tech though. I would have worked 10-12 hours without them.

 

[farmadiazepine]

I did like 20 flu clinics for CVS. I got paid for each and every one of them in addition to my base hours. DO NOT DO FLU CLINICS IF YOU DO NOT GET PAID TO DO THEM. That's gotta be illegal. Document everything and take it to the labor board. How about next time you don't volunteer for this dumb a** s**t anymore. I completely stopped doing these clinics because its ridiculous.

They would pay me for a 2 hour clinic only 2 hours, but the time it takes to get all the things, prepare, set up, then set down, and take it back to the store, it was 3 hours, 3 and 1/2 hours worth of time. And you really spend time getting ready at home, coming back home, wasting a day. TOTALLY NOT WORTH IT.

 

[FarmD711]

What state are you in farmadiazepine?

My DM says this falls under my salaried responsibilities and I have the choice whether or not to do it. But that my store gets credit for the shots. I won't be saying yes again.

I would take the 2 hours (even though I worked 8 between set up, running all the claims, checking all the claims, and cashing out all the claims). To not even get that is an insult.

 

[nnguyenc]

He says it doesn't apply to exempt salaried workers. So that puts me out.


Should at least pay my tech though. I would have worked 10-12 hours without them.

my paycheck says i'm "hourly"

weird

 

[owlegrad]

Ok well 8 hours is crazy. Do your techs not help you at all? Having said that I put in for the total clinic time (not driving or prep, I do put in a mileage form though) and get them. I still don't find them worth it. To much hassle for what we get out of them.

 

[npage148]

Just got paid 4 hours to give 15 shots during a 2 hour flu clinic. Your PDM is taking advantage of you

 

[fauxden]

I don't work for one of the big chains, but I did a clinic today, and got paid for it. fyi

 

[waiter]

 

[Aznfarmerboi]

I always got paid for my flu clinics. I got paid 10 hours today... to do 10 shots. The clinic was a bust.

We don't get paid if the shots were less than a certain amount. I would just deduct the hours from my base hours. (Leave an hour earlier... come in an hour later) but I work at a 24 hour store.

Your technician SHOULD get paid no matter what. It is a violation if they do not get paid for the work.

70 shots is a lot. Do you mind me asking which chain do you work for? I work for CVS. It doesn't seem like you work for CVS... because no DM in their right mind will not pay technicians for hours worked.

 

[Aznfarmerboi]

there's a module called "Recording Hours Worked" that your DM might have missed

I did that module too. I don't think OP works for CVS. I got paid for all of mines, and I know farmdiazepam does. Flu clinics are easy money for us...

 

[FarmD711]

Thanks for all the advice! I do work for CVS in the southeast. Would rather not say which state.

I called my DM today and asked what the official policy was. He has changed his mind and is paying the technician for the full hours worked and paying me for 4 hours (3 hours of giving shots and 1 hour of setup / running claims). He said that the technician should always be paid for whatever they work but that I should have sent them home after the 3 hours that was approved and run all the claims myself...

I'm glad I pursued this. Thanks for the info!

 

[farmadiazepine]

Yea, I got paid to do all my flu clinics. Honestly, I would never do them again. I told my scheduler I'm not doing them this year. If they have a 'requirement' that every RPh has to do one flu clinic, then fine, but it doesn't include me since I'm an overnighter.

 

[Aznfarmerboi]

Thanks for all the advice! I do work for CVS in the southeast. Would rather not say which state.

I called my DM today and asked what the official policy was. He has changed his mind and is paying the technician for the full hours worked and paying me for 4 hours (3 hours of giving shots and 1 hour of setup / running claims). He said that the technician should always be paid for whatever they work but that I should have sent them home after the 3 hours that was approved and run all the claims myself...

I'm glad I pursued this. Thanks for the info!

Glad to here. Sounds like your DM is a douche. Is this pharmacy supervisor or District manager?

Re claims, save the claims. You don't have to process all of them at once. I usually save the claims and process them if I am not meeting target for the week.

 

[FarmD711]

Glad to here. Sounds like your DM is a douche. Is this pharmacy supervisor or District manager?

Re claims, save the claims. You don't have to process all of them at once. I usually save the claims and process them if I am not meeting target for the week.

He really isn't a douche, which is why I was surprised by this whole thing. I think he's under a lot of stress with payroll lately from the tone of our multiple conference calls and emails this week. He is a sup, not a DM.

Didn't even think of saving the claims for another week. Although we weren't quite making scripts this week and adding the clinic in got us over the budget.

 

[Jell0]

I'm scheduled for my first flu clinic in a few weeks, and I was told it would be an expected 19 shots for a span of 5 hours. This doesn't sound very profitable what do you guys think? I thought the shot cost about 7-10 dollars and reimbursements are about 28-30 dollars

 

[FarmD711]

Yeah that doesn't sound very profitable. My chain does not do flu clinics unless the site guarantees 50+ shots.

 

[Jell0]

Is there anything else I need for an off-site clinic besides paperwork, supplies and a tech?

 

[FarmD711]

I also brought a cooler with ice packs and towels to wrap the vaccine and keep it cool.

Also a couple Epipen 2 packs (per my protocol)

 

[owlegrad]

Sharps container may come in handy.

 

[BBW123]

if it makes you feel any better, I had to do these flu clinics while on rotation with a grocery store last year (Ohio lets interns do flu shots for adults). Did not get paid anything and had to pay for parking because it was downtown in a government building. I asked about being reimbursed for parking and she said "that's what your financial aid from school is suppose to cover"

 

[Got Em]

What do you mean you don't get paid? That's illegal. What you do is take a day off from your store and let the market scheduler find coverage for you. Or, if you're only there for a few hours, then you leave early until you get those hours. That's the way it works.

Nobody does it for free. If you work, you get paid. The key is to work it out with your team and save ALL emails from you to your supervisor or DM.