OFFICIAL: 2003 Wash U acceptances

[VienneseWaltz]

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I interviewed at Wash U on 10/28 and haven't heard jack from them. (That is, except for the thin envelope in December that was a letter telling me to expect another letter.) Anyone out there gotten news? Also, please say if you applied MD/PhD, and (if you don't mind) whether you have very high (36+) MCAT scores (we don't need the exact score unless you feel like sharing).

 

[tBw]

I interviewed in November. I was accepted within a couple of weeks. Not MD/PhD, just MD. Yes, I do have good numbers, amongst other things on my app. hope that helps..?

 

[tBw]

oh and I was told that they do a big review again in March, as they get a huge amount of movement then, as thats when columbia, cornell, harvard etc all notify....

 

[DW]

I'm a *******, I only have a 35 MCAT I applied regular MD and interviewed in very early November, dont remember the date though. I havent heard anything since the "dont call us, we'll call you letter".

 

[VienneseWaltz]

DW, we ARE *******es at Wash U! Hee hee hee ...

Whatever I got, I guess Wash U ain't lookin for it ... My interviewer asked me about the malpractice insurance crisis. She wanted my opinion, so I gave it. Nothing in my position is offensive to physicians, but I don't ascribe to the dogma that jury award caps will solve everything (it won't). I stand by my opinion, as it's grounded in sound economic evidence. But it's not like I have graduate training in health economics ... Oh, WAIT. I DO have graduate training in health economics ... Anyway, I don't think she cared for my ideas ...

(Anyone who wants to debate malp, please start a new thread--don't do it here.)

 

[tBw]

Originally posted by VienneseWaltz
Anyone who wants to debate malp, please start a new thread--don't do it here.

but the thing about not having malpractice caps is.... 😉

 

[relatively prime]

Originally posted by DW
I'm a *******, I only have a 35 MCAT I applied regular MD and interviewed in very early November, dont remember the date though. I havent heard anything since the "dont call us, we'll call you letter".

LOL We're in the same boat. I have a 34... I was at the airport with a fellow interviewer. We were talking about MCAT scores... we'd pretty much talked about everything else since our flights were delayed. I told him mine... he didn't want to come out and say his so he said "let's just say, if you were to average my score and yours.. you'd still get a number higher than washu's average." Which basically means the dude has a 40+. 😱

At my interview... I wanted so much to ask "so... are you sure this isn't a mistake? you didn't mistake me for a URM or anything, right?"

 

[tBw]

i thought washUs average was a 36.5 or something. in which case he might 'only' have gotten a 38 or 39?...:not that it really matters I guess heh

 

[VienneseWaltz]

BTW, boy wonder, I meant to congratulate you on your acceptance. 😀

 

[tBw]

thanks vw 😉 - it was nice as it certainly took a lot of the stress out of most of my subsequent interviews.

 

[relatively prime]

Well... let's see...

WashU's average is 36.6... so we have...


(1/2)(34 + X) > 36.6 where X is this guy's score

so... 17 + (1/2)X > 36.6... making X > 39.2

Since you can only have whole number scores... X must be at least 40.

So there you go. 😉


BOy wonder... you got into WashU?!

 

[DW]

there's obviously a math major in the house 😀

 

[tBw]

Originally posted by relatively prime
Well... let's see...

WashU's average is 36.6... so we have...


(1/2)(34 + X) > 36.6 where X is this guy's score

so... 17 + (1/2)X > 36.6... making X > 39.2

Since you can only have whole number scores... X must be at least 40.

So there you go. 😉

ok then! 🙂 🙂 lol ... I guess I was (a) remembering the number as 36.5 (as indicated in my other post - but I can humbly accede I don't bother remembering such stuff so am undoubtedly off!) and (b) didn't think it was that precise.

but hey, with math skills like those you are a cert for admission 😉

Originally posted by relatively prime

BOy wonder... you got into WashU?!

I know - it's crazy who they let in these days isn't it??

but yep, a while ago now though:

http://www.studentdoctor.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54055&highlight=accepted+washu

 

[tBw]

Originally posted by lola
i hate to ask this, but what were your stats?

ha bloody ha ha 😉

 

[relatively prime]

Dude... what were your stats?! I'm trying to figure out why WashU is interviewing so many people with sub 36 MCAT scores. 🙄 Do we actually have a chance... or did they just get a better deal on catering if they interviewed more people?

 

[tBw]

Originally posted by relatively prime
Dude... what were your stats?!

well, if you multiply our mcats together you get a number higher than their average... 😉

sorry, rp 🙁 but good luck.

 

[relatively prime]

bastard 😛 😉

So was it your top choice?

 

[tBw]

I was very impressed with washU, even more so than I expected to be. However, I'm going to be boring and want to look at FA packages before I make any definite decisions. But it certainly was one of my top choices.

 

[Habari]

is there a revisit date for md students at washU? congrats tbw - hopefully i'll see you there🙂

 

[siempre595]

Originally posted by relatively prime
Dude... what were your stats?! I'm trying to figure out why WashU is interviewing so many people with sub 36 MCAT scores. 🙄 Do we actually have a chance... or did they just get a better deal on catering if they interviewed more people?

Yes they take people with sub 36. I'm personally acquainted with two current sub 36'ers, and know of several others. They like high scores, we all know that. But they like nice people too.....or I'm hoping they do!!!
p.s. i've been waiting for months also......

 

[MD-2007-Gal]

I interviewed in mid-November, and got my acceptance letter about three weeks later. I applied for the MD program. My numbers are pretty good (but not amazing), and I do go to an Ivy League undergrad. I really liked Wash U a lot, and it's among my top choices. I will be attending their Second Look, though, and what happens with the non-rolling schools may be important (though I'm not sure if I'd choose any of those schools over Wash U anyway).

 

[Sunnygirl]

Like MD Gal, I interviewed in November, and received an acceptance on Christmas Eve! My numbers were fine, with my MCATs stronger than my GPA, and I went to an Ivy League school too. I had a great time during my Wash U visit, I liked the students and faculty a lot, though I'll admit that St. Louis, the city, didn't knock my socks off. The school may be worth it though! We'll see.... good luck to you guys!

 

[KBCoch]

You can add me to the list of "sub-36ers" who interviewed. In fact, I only have a 33. I interviewed Oct. 30th and haven't heard anything as of yet. WashU is my first choice for sure, but reading this is starting to make me feel like I'm fooling myself if I think I'm getting in there just because of my MCAT score. I know it's not spectacular, but I didn't think it was low enough to be the kiss of death anywhere either. My GPA is pretty stellar, although not from an Ivy, so I'm still harboring some hope that maybe MCATs alone won't sink me at WashU.

Such a delicate balance between not giving up hope and not getting my hopes up...

 

[DW]

Originally posted by KBCoch
My GPA is pretty stellar, although not from an Ivy

who wants go to any IVY when you've got Coca Cola University? 😉

EMORY!!!! 😀

 

[VienneseWaltz]

Originally posted by KBCoch
I interviewed Oct. 30th and haven't heard anything as of yet.

Hey, I think we interviewed together. I listed my date above as 10/28, but I checked and it was 10/30.

 

[fava]

did all of you guys (especially those accepted) write that optional essay? i'm thinking now maybe i should have...

 

[VienneseWaltz]

Originally posted by KBCoch
You can add me to the list of "sub-36ers" who interviewed. In fact, I only have a 33. I interviewed Oct. 30th and haven't heard anything as of yet. WashU is my first choice for sure, but reading this is starting to make me feel like I'm fooling myself if I think I'm getting in there just because of my MCAT score. I know it's not spectacular, but I didn't think it was low enough to be the kiss of death anywhere either. My GPA is pretty stellar, although not from an Ivy, so I'm still harboring some hope that maybe MCATs alone won't sink me at WashU.

Someone from my undergrad (a state school, and not a particularly great one) is about to graduate from Wash U. Good GPA, but she went straight to med school (IOW, no special work/graduate experiences). Her MCATs were low 30s.

 

[VienneseWaltz]

Originally posted by fava
did all of you guys (especially those accepted) write that optional essay? i'm thinking now maybe i should have...

I did, not that it's gotten me anywhere so far ...

 

[KBCoch]

Hey, I think we interviewed together. I listed my date above as 10/28, but I checked and it was 10/30.


Yes, we interviewed together twice!!! Once at WashU and at Emory before that right? I thought that might have been you when you mentioned the health econ, but then I was confused by the date you interviewed. Well, hello again!

That's good to hear about your friend who's at WashU now. I'm glad to see that some of the low 30 people have elbowed their way in. It ain't over till it's over!

I also wrote the optional essay. My interviewer actually centered almost our whole interview around it. May have been good, but it did lead to some awkward questions, and we didn't get to talk about some other important things. Overall, I'm glad that I wrote it, but I can't see it hurting anyone who didn't.

Good luck, all. FedEx, don't fail me now.

 

[VienneseWaltz]

I have another friend at Wash U, with really disgustingly high MCATs 🙂, who was notified in January the year she applied. She told me most of her class didn't get in until March or April, so I guess there's hope. 😛

It's so funny about the interview circuit--at at least half my interviews I met someone I'd met at an earlier interview ...

 

[pAkhtmAn]

For those who were immediately accepted: How long did it take for the Adcom to get back to you?

Also, WashU seems to interview a heck of a lot of people. Does anybody know how many people they interview and how many people are eventually accepted?

 

[mws99]

Originally posted by pAkhtmAn

Also, WashU seems to interview a heck of a lot of people. Does anybody know how many people they interview and how many people are eventually accepted?

According to USNews they interviewed 999 and accepted 325 2 years ago.

 

[Louweezel]

I interviewed in late November, and was accepted Christmas Eve. Actually my interviewer emailed me the day after Christmas to tell me the good news. I didn't get the acceptance letter till I went back to school in January. I have good numbers but not Ivy League, and I was pretty damn surprised that I got in so fast. And yes, I did write the optional essay. I figured that optional pretty much meant required.

 

[Sunnygirl]

I did fill out the optional essay, but I basically just took an essay I had written for another school and cut it down to fit the word limit.

 

[VienneseWaltz]

So, the pattern I'm seeing is: Early acceptance (that is, before March) requires either MCATs higher than their mean, or MCATs at their mean (or slightly below) with undergraduate work at an Ivy. Does anyone who has been accepted NOT fit this pattern?

 

[Louweezel]

I get the feeling that MCATs play a big deal at Wash U. It didn't even cross my mind to apply there (I have West/East coast bias) until they sent me a letter congratulating me on my good MCATs (I don't know how they knew that) and asked me to apply. As a result, I applied on the later side (mid/late Sept) and got the secondary in October, scheduled interview in November.
The other thing is, I thought my interviewer was fantastic and we really got along. He was late starting my interview and so I was a little freaked out, but we talked about movies (Memento, which he loved) and England (where I was born). And I guess he really liked me or something. He wrote me a really nice and complimentary email when he sent his congratulations. So I guess the numbers get you an interview, and then it depends on how well you get along with the interviewer? Since they're the ones that have to present you and argue your case.

 

[VienneseWaltz]

Originally posted by Louweezel
I get the feeling that MCATs play a big deal at Wash U. It didn't even cross my mind to apply there (I have West/East coast bias) until they sent me a letter congratulating me on my good MCATs (I don't know how they knew that) and asked me to apply.

You checked something when you took the MCAT saying AAMC could release your scores to schools. I got the same letter. You make a good point--they recruit according to MCAT scores, so obviously they're pretty friggin important to Wash U.

 

[Louweezel]

so that's where they got it from? when i checked that box i only thought that it was for release of my scores to amcas schools that i eventually applied to, not all amcas schools.

sidenote: i noticed that when i went there, a noticeably large part of their class was asian...did anyone else notice this?

 

[pAkhtmAn]

Hey Louweezel,
Who did you interview with?
And...
Did anyone interview with Dr. Will Ross? How did it go and what was the result?

 

[Premed2003]

I know people who were accepted and currently students there and they all had high MCATs
Personally i wouldn't want to go to washu since they only look at mcats. i mean, really, how much do mcats tell about a person? whereas harvard/yale et al. look for leadership and medical dedication and all that, washu just looks at numbers and not at the person. i think this is why so many leaders graduate from harvard and yale while can anyone name a great medical leader from washu? It's ranked so high by USNews because the magazine arbitrarily assigned mcat a significnat portion of their ranking criteria. if you removed mcat from usnews' criteria, washu would significantly drop in the rankings.

the students at harvard/yale etc all say that they love their school because of the people - profs and inspiring students. at washu though, perhaps there are great profs (although i don't know any famous ones who have made huge contributions to any fields) but the students are just chuggers and gunners for the high scores/mcats. this is why there isn't much overlap between schools like harvard/yale acceptees and washu acceptees.

it's surpising that washu goes so much based on mcats because they are rejecting many future leaders and instead accept more boring people

i didn't want to be in the environment that my friends there describe. i want a stimulating environment, not surrounded by boring gunners who only have academics to back themselves up

 

[Premed2003]

i should clarify that people with high mcats and good leadership are accepted to harvard/yale equivalent and washu, but then they go to harvard/yale equivalent. So the students actually attending washu are the ones rejected by the schools that look beyond #s...leaving the boring gunners at the school

so you guys who have been accepted are great, but I would seriously look into the school before committing attending, unless you don't have any other choices

 

[DrCarin]

Originally posted by Premed2003
i should clarify that people with high mcats and good leadership are accepted to harvard/yale equivalent and washu, but then they go to harvard/yale equivalent. So the students actually attending washu are the ones rejected by the schools that look beyond #s...leaving the boring gunners at the school

so you guys who have been accepted are great, but I would seriously look into the school before committing attending, unless you don't have any other choices

curious- why do you say that?? there are lots of people who legitimately like wash u and would like to attend school there.

 

[Premed2003]

Each school attracts a particular type of class

The WashU class is mostly high mcats with no leadership - students who are uninspiring beyond academics and don't care to be surrounded by inspiring students and profs. This is historically obvious too based on the lack of medical leaders produced by washu - it's not that washu is a bad school that doesn't produce leaders, but washu doesn't attract leaders, so their students don't eventually become leaders

schools like harvard/yale want leaders and only leaders...so their classes are unique, leaders, and go on to do substantial things in their fields. these harvard/yale students aren't satisifed with being the best and brightest. they want to make a huge difference. this drive is not inherent in the students that washu attracts

so people who really love washu are those who are fulfilled by academics alone and do not care about making huge differences and don't care to be surrounded by people who are leaders. they are satisfied with just studying and mcats...but i argue that there is more to life than sitting in a room studying. get out there and do something meaningful. that's why i don't like washu personally

 

[saiyaman]

wow...i don't know who you are premed2003, but you are seriously one of the most pompous individuals i have ever seen post here. it's one thing to know that a certain school isn't right for you, but it's another thing entirely to straight up say that anyone who goes to that school is not a "leader" and should be down on their knees begging to go to harvard/yale. i personally have been accepted to wash u and, while my final decision about med school is not made yet, i actually got quite a positive impression there from the students and faculty. also, as per the ratings that you are obviously enamored of, wash u has been consistently in the top 5 for the past decade, which is indicative of far more than simple "high MCAT" scores. quite honestly, i'm glad that if i go there, you won't be there...your posts show a consistent arrogance (i'm reminded of the one about how you should have gotten a higher mcat simply by virtue of having gone to an ivy league school) and i definitely wouldn't want to spend 4 years at a school filled with a bunch of people like you. again, i repeat that it is one thing to objectively state the reasons that you do not want to attend a certain school, but it is another thing entirely to insult everyone who would attend that school.

 

[Premed2003]

Hey Seiyeman
I never said I should have gotten a higher mcat score because I go to an ivy league school!???

I'm just giving my personal opinion of washu based on stories of my friends who go there. a few are disappointed about the lack of leaders there because they come from my undergrad school that has really inspirational people everywhere. those who are at washu now didn't get into other top schools which is why they're there, but they don't seem too happy to be there..

i'm giving this info as food for thought to go along with the mcat discussion that began earlier in the thread. that people got recruitment letters just because of their mcat. i didn't bring up anything new in my posts.🙄

 

[Habari]

This is historically obvious too based on the lack of medical leaders produced by washu - it's not that washu is a bad school that doesn't produce leaders, but washu doesn't attract leaders, so their students don't eventually become leaders

me thinks not

if you don't recognize some of those names ... then i'm sure you'll appreciate the prestige of the institutions they are working at, or centers they are leading😛

this isn't specific just to that program at washU - the md's do just as well. i agree with saiyaman - no need to hate on a whole institution, its bad form.

 

[tBw]

Premed2003

According to your post you did not make up your own mind based on truly examining what WashU has to offer (you did not even apply to WashU nor have you been there) but followed along with what some other people said! Leaders (with which you seem somewhat obsessed) lead, they do not follow. As you have not even visited WashU perhaps you should reserve such harsh judgment therefore for when you actually have something to base your opinion on other than second hand knowledge.

As for myself, I have spent 4 years at Harvard and worked at WashU for 4 years. I would go to WashU's medical school in a heartbeat.

 

[fava]

not that i'm defending what she's said, but i think, in another thread, she mentioned (and i might be wrong here) that she'd gotten into washu. so at least she's visited...

 

[tBw]

Originally posted by Premed2003

i have good mcats but didn't apply to washu because i didn't want to be in the environment that my friends there describe. i want a stimulating environment, not surrounded by boring gunners who only have academics to back themselves up

fava - they say they have not applied there

 

[fava]

ok, it's a complete non-issue at this point, but just to affirm that i am NOT going crazy, from her thread about whether to go to her penn interview:

"The other schools that I'm accepted to but am right now planning on JHU instead are Stanford and WashU. Does anyone have any insight on these compared to Penn?"

regardless, she's got enough options to avoid washu.