***Official 2006 Step 1 Results Thread***

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I may not be the first to take Step one in 2006, but I gotta be close, so I declare the 2006 Step 1 forum OPEN. It may lay dormant for some time, but some day the class of 2008 will thank me for getting things ready for them. Don't worry, I set the bar pretty low. How low you ask? well.... less than 240 and more than 182. All I care is that I don't have to take that damn test again. They say then next few are easier. We'll see........
 
I've gotten through most of Goljan's chapters and I thinks he's a great teacher (wish I would have known about him during the semester). I agree that it's really hard to remember everything, but I'm tryin..

He repeatedly mentions that you must know his high-yield (cold) to do well. So I was wonderin if anyone who took this advise to heart and took the boards can reflect if his words hold true. Are the high-yields that good? 😱
 
Yes, I'd like to know that too. Has anyone learnt his HY notes "cold" and felt it was worth the while?
 
DrPak said:
Yes, I'd like to know that too. Has anyone learnt his HY notes "cold" and felt it was worth the while?

I didn't have time to get through both his lectures and his notes. I think it might have been helpful to go through his notes, but time is always a factor. Most people I studied with looked through his notes but listened to the entire audio. I was actually surprised after studying FA how much I already knew from Goljan'n notes. And there was so much info on Step 1 that I doubt I knew anything "cold".
 
For all of us who are waiting for scores released last Wednesday, they're here! (At least in Pittsburgh they are.) It's about freakin' time.

Now for my experience...
So, first of all, I won't post my score because a lot of people from my school know who I am. But suffice to say that I'm very pleased and did better than I expected. My Qbank was averaging around 80 toward the end, and my pre-studying CBSSA Form 2 was 540 (228). I got around 90% right on the 150 released questions (post-studying), but I found these to be much, much easier than the real thing.

The test itself didn't seem that terrible to me. There were a bunch of "WTF?!?" questions, but the bulk of them seemed pretty manageable. It was very cardio-heavy. I actually had quite a bit of gross anatomy (mostly neuro and abdominal), but not a lot of embryo. My pharm was almost all autonomics, with a few obscure drug interactions (found nowhere in FA, unfortunately), classic toxicities, and antibiotic choices. There wasn't much micro, but a lot of it was parasites. I remember acid/base balance as being a pretty big theme on my test. Behavioral science was a lot of "what would you say next" questions, but a few on biostats, including the calculation of a Number Needed to Treat (not found in FA or BRS).

The key to this exam is pure stamina. You just have to keep pushing forward, no matter how badly a section seems to be going. Using up all the break time isn't necessary, but definitely take a 2-minute or so break between sections to rest your eyes. My screen was kinda flashing in a weird way, so avoiding eyestrain is key. Eat lunch and snacks (gotta keep that blood glucose up!).

As for studying, YOU CAN DO FINE WITHOUT GOLJAN!!! Although I like his style, I didn't listen to Goljan since I was pressed for time. FA and BRS Path were sufficient. And in no way did I try to "memorize" First Aid. I learn by thinking in concepts, not by memorizing. Sometimes you do have to memorize, and that's when mnemonics come into play. But attempting to "memorize First Aid" isn't really going to help you. The most important thing is doing well in your first and second years...which means learning to actually LEARN the material, not just to get by a test. The bigger your knowledge base coming into studying, the easier those few weeks will be. I "studied" for about 8-9 weeks, but the first 4 weeks weren't very efficient because I still had class and extracurriculars, and I was also pretty distracted by personal/family stuff during the later weeks. What this all means is that you can definitely do this in 4-5 weeks.

Good luck to those of you who haven't taken it yet!
 
so im doing qbank...and im about 20% done. I've been getting 55-60% right. HOW DO I INCREASE MY SCORE? Its really stressing me out.

Thanks for the advice
 
Hi everyone,
First, I just want to say to everyone still studying, keep plugging away -- it will be worth when you get your score in the mail. Don't be discouraged by Q-bank or a CBSSA.

I just got my scores in today.
On my 1st CBSSA (form 2, pre-studying), I got a whopping 186.
On my 2nd CBSSA (form 3, 5 days before test), I got an unbelievable 195.
Q-bank average was 68% doing non-random blocks.
My released question percentage (2 days before test) was 73%.

These numbers really discouraged me, especially the 195 five days before the exam. How was it possible that I had studied 2 months and only improved by 9 points? 😕 I was shocked, needless to say, and after briefly contemplating dropping out of med school and pursuing my dream of touring the country as a 1-man band, I buckled down studied extremely hard the last 5 days before the test. Unfortunately I could not push back my test date as there was no more time. The 73% was also depressing. The night before the test I slept 3 hours and crammed biochem and behavioral science, which worked for me but is not for everyone. This definitely helped me on the exam.

My actual score was a 239. For some reason, the CBSSA form 3 was not predictive at all for me. Anyone else have a lack of correlation between form 3 and their actual score? After getting my score, I danced a jig.

I was happy with my score, although it would have been nice to break 240. Many people posting on SDN have much higher scores, but I am at peace. I'm doing the National Health Service Corps, so I am committed to a primary care specialty and should be competitive with my score.

I used First Aid, BRS path and phys, Q-bank, NMS q-book, Metabolism (Coffee), Anatomy MRS, Clinical Micro MRS, and parts of High Yield Neuro and BRS behavioral science.
Overally, studying was stressful but rewarding as I was able to re-learn a lot.

Good luck to everyone still studying.

Peace,
Mr. Whiskers :laugh:
 
teddy12 said:
so im doing qbank...and im about 20% done. I've been getting 55-60% right. HOW DO I INCREASE MY SCORE? Its really stressing me out.

Thanks for the advice

I also started out with dismally low Q-bank scores, but eventually brought them up and did pretty well on the actual test. First of all....don't panic! You are LEARNING...they'll improve with time. Secondly, it helped me to really use the answer explanations to learn the material that I was both missing and getting right. I think I read every explanation in that silly system. Look up the stuff you're missing in First Aid and really try to learn it! If you notice that you are missing every single GI Pharm question, for example, go learn GI pharm! I know it can be discouraging to get low scores, but they will come up! Good luck!
 
uclalee said:
I didn't have time to get through both his lectures and his notes. I think it might have been helpful to go through his notes, but time is always a factor. Most people I studied with looked through his notes but listened to the entire audio. I was actually surprised after studying FA how much I already knew from Goljan'n notes. And there was so much info on Step 1 that I doubt I knew anything "cold".
Actually, I was referring to his 100 page High Yield facts, not his pathology "notes" (which are actually books).
 
Mr. Whiskers, thanks so much for posting. I've posted this in another thread, but basically my NBME form 1 (3 weeks before the exam) was a 211, form 2 (10 days before the exam) was 221, and then form 3, two days before (i'm ******ed for doing that...) was a whooping 195. I also freaked out, and also contemplated dropping out of med school, but after pulling myself together I pushed the test back 2 weeks and have been studying more... my test is on Saturday. I definetely feel that I'm stronger on pharmacology, biostats, anatomy, and embryology now, and i'm just hoping that i haven't forgotten all my phys/pathophys... *sigh*... hopefully the exam works out as well for me as it did for you!! I'm just hoping for a 220+ 🙂. That form 3 NBME is pretty wacky though... my QBank randoms are in the high 60s, low 70s.... that definetely shouldn't be a 195... so who knows....

**crossing fingers**
 
quideam said:
Mr. Whiskers, thanks so much for posting. I've posted this in another thread, but basically my NBME form 1 (3 weeks before the exam) was a 211, form 2 (10 days before the exam) was 221, and then form 3, two days before (i'm ******ed for doing that...) was a whooping 195

Hey quideam,
No problem. Given your other two NMBE and Q-bank scores, I don't think you have anything to worry about. The 195 definitely is not predictive of your actual score. It's nice to hear that other people have had trouble with form 3. Given all your extra studying, you have a great shot at breaking 240. Good luck! 🙂
 
I haven't posted in a while, but I took step one in thurs. and totally have no clue how I did.

Before the test I felt like I had it nailed;
Qbank: 80%+ random 50 going into the test
NBME free: 87%
NBME cbssa 1: 242

I don't feel like all of these questions were representative of the test. Close but not enough for me to gauge. 10% were gimme's, 10% WTF, 80% piecing together the Dx from the clues and then asking something else. All of this adds up to having no idea how i did. I really think I could get anywhere from a 200 to a 260.

Anyone else with this same experience? I'll post the scores when they role in. Good luck to all those who haven't taken it yet.

PS. can you get your scores online or do you have to wait for the mail.
 
MDMiracle - if it means anything, your experience seems somewhat like mine (including pre-test scores), and I was pleased when scores came back. Hang in there!

As for checking scores, unfortunately, it's a pretty dumb system. There's nothing available like the online score report that we got for the MCAT. The only thing you can check online is the date the scores have been sent out by mail. Your school, however, receives the scores online every Wednesday at noon. Most schools will then let you call in or come in to get your score right away (check with your student affairs office for their policy), just so you don't have to deal with the time delay between your online score report date and the day the mail arrives. Others, like mine, don't allow it, and you just have to sit tight and wait for the mail to come...or in the case of at least one classmate, to be lost in the mail... 🙁
 
In regards to the "does goljan HY 100 or 36 help?" from above, I would say not really. I studied the crap out of those things thinking that I would get some of the zebra questions he lists and it would be money in the bank. But, I don't recall a single one. Now, I am not knocking reviewing it as it helps look at concepts from different angles and keeps you on point with associations.

I wouldn't spend the time to know them "cold" though as this would and did take a lot of time. I would use more of that time with 1st Aid. But this is just my opinion, for all I know I could have shanked this test.

Hope this helps, I also was looking for this answer before I poured my energy into those dense packets.
 
shocker said:
In regards to the "does goljan HY 100 or 36 help?" from above, I would say not really. I studied the crap out of those things thinking that I would get some of the zebra questions he lists and it would be money in the bank. But, I don't recall a single one. Now, I am not knocking reviewing it as it helps look at concepts from different angles and keeps you on point with associations.

I wouldn't spend the time to know them "cold" though as this would and did take a lot of time. I would use more of that time with 1st Aid. But this is just my opinion, for all I know I could have shanked this test.

Hope this helps, I also was looking for this answer before I poured my energy into those dense packets.


That sucks! Someone else posted that it was very helpful for him/her. So read over path FA instead over Goljan's High yield? I hate all this....wish it was over
 
Quick question - any relationship btwn. the Kaplan Simulation Test vs. USMLE 1 score??

I see people are putting their Qbank percentages which is good but I just took the simulation test and wondering what that really means ( I got a 73%).
 
brwneyes said:
That sucks! Someone else posted that it was very helpful for him/her. So read over path FA instead over Goljan's High yield? I hate all this....wish it was over

My bad, I was a little vague with the 1st Aid reference. Instead of pouring hours into Goljan HYs I would pour hours into everything in 1st Aid, not just the 1st Aid path section which is clearly lacking. I used Goljan's RR book as my path source and supplemented w/ HYs and 1st Aid.

I was just trying to share my thoughts on if "knowing Goljan HYs COLD would be a huge help".

As I was taking the test I kept thinking how the month of studying wasn't my best prep for this test. It was paying attention for the 1st 2 years, rather than trying to do old tests or whatever "easy" method there was to make killer grades. Now that final month helped me cement stuff from 1st year and some memorization stuff, but my baseline knowledge from 2 years of school and the ability to reason through problems helped me get through that exam.
 
shocker said:
My bad, I was a little vague with the 1st Aid reference. Instead of pouring hours into Goljan HYs I would pour hours into everything in 1st Aid, not just the 1st Aid path section which is clearly lacking. I used Goljan's RR book as my path source and supplemented w/ HYs and 1st Aid.

I was just trying to share my thoughts on if "knowing Goljan HYs COLD would be a huge help".

As I was taking the test I kept thinking how the month of studying wasn't my best prep for this test. It was paying attention for the 1st 2 years, rather than trying to do old tests or whatever "easy" method there was to make killer grades. Now that final month helped me cement stuff from 1st year and some memorization stuff, but my baseline knowledge from 2 years of school and the ability to reason through problems helped me get through that exam.

what I was trying to get at was: I have a week left b/f the test, I studied path fairly well with Goljan's tapes and test book almost 3 wks ago, (having trouble remembering much stuff now 😕 ) so what's the fastest way to review the basics: is it goljan HY plus FA, or goljan plus BRS path, or just FA (with questions of course)????? thanks
 
Hey...I'm posting here out of desperation...I managed to enfuriate my boyfriend approximately a week before he's taking Step 1. I realize how stupid that was...but the situation has already occurred and now I need to figure out how to deal with it. Since you all who are posting on this thread are currently taking/have taken Step 1, y'all of course understand the stress that he's under! What would you do in my situation? What can I do for him to make it up to him? Is there anything in particular that any of you would have wanted your significant other to do for you before the test? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
noh said:
Hey...I'm posting here out of desperation...I managed to enfuriate my boyfriend approximately a week before he's taking Step 1. I realize how stupid that was...but the situation has already occurred and now I need to figure out how to deal with it. Since you all who are posting on this thread are currently taking/have taken Step 1, y'all of course understand the stress that he's under! What would you do in my situation? What can I do for him to make it up to him? Is there anything in particular that any of you would have wanted your significant other to do for you before the test? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

hi noh,

there isn't anything you can do in terms of studying -- BUT you can make his life a lot easier while he is studying ... cooking, baking treats, doing the laundry, etc. etc. all really help when you are stressed out for exams. at least that's what my boyfriend has been doing for the last ... 3 months ...
 
noh said:
Hey...I'm posting here out of desperation...I managed to enfuriate my boyfriend approximately a week before he's taking Step 1. I realize how stupid that was...but the situation has already occurred and now I need to figure out how to deal with it. Since you all who are posting on this thread are currently taking/have taken Step 1, y'all of course understand the stress that he's under! What would you do in my situation? What can I do for him to make it up to him? Is there anything in particular that any of you would have wanted your significant other to do for you before the test? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

I am pretty sure any answer i would give is not appropriate for a family-friendly message board
 
Would people who receive their scores mind posting the date they took Step 1 and the date their score reports were made available? Just seems like it might be a good way to "track" how long it's taking to get scores. I know the NBME said the target date is mid-July but maybe some scores will be reported before then. Sound good?
 
noh said:
Hey...I'm posting here out of desperation...I managed to enfuriate my boyfriend approximately a week before he's taking Step 1. I realize how stupid that was...but the situation has already occurred and now I need to figure out how to deal with it. Since you all who are posting on this thread are currently taking/have taken Step 1, y'all of course understand the stress that he's under! What would you do in my situation? What can I do for him to make it up to him? Is there anything in particular that any of you would have wanted your significant other to do for you before the test? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Hey Noh,

Dealing with someone who is about to take the boards is really difficult! I think the best thing you can do is let your boyfriend vent about the test for a little while and then start conversations about something else. That way the test is a little less all-consuming of both of your lives. Remember, life DOES exist outside of Step 1 (we medstudents sometimes forget that). I also really appreciated it when my girlfriend did little things for me, like making lunch/dinner or doing the grocery shopping (so I didn't have to deal with it). Also try to keep in mind that when your boyfriend is enfuriated with you, it probably is not you at all... just the stress (not that I am trying to make excuses for him). Just take a deep breath and thank god that it will all be over soon.
 
BigRedMachine said:
I am pretty sure any answer i would give is not appropriate for a family-friendly message board

My SO said send him to the spa for a massage, relaxation treatment, whatever. That way he can take his mind off you and the test. Be a good girlfriend and be on your best behavior for the next week.

Ciao!
rmp and SO
 
Is there any correlation with the scores from the free 150 released questions?

I just saw a post above from someone who made a 239 after getting 73%? on the free questions taken two days before step 1. I got 74% earlier today (one week until step 1) and am wondering what that might mean -- if anything. The Medfriends score estimator seems to start jumping up pretty high for scores that break 75% and creep up into the 80s.
 
Dunce said:
Is there any correlation with the scores from the free 150 released questions?

I just saw a post above from someone who made a 239 after getting 73%? on the free questions taken two days before step 1. I got 74% earlier today (one week until step 1) and am wondering what that might mean -- if anything. The Medfriends score estimator seems to start jumping up pretty high for scores that break 75% and creep up into the 80s.


I found the free questions to be really easy compared to the real thing. I would say NBME 1 and 2 estimate your score really well... stick to that.
 
hello friends!! its about time i joined SDN. i took step 1 last week and im just here to share my experiences

i started studying pretty seriously back in march, giving myself approx 3 months. overall, i felt pretty prepared for the real thing (and i definitely felt that i had hit my limit- one more day of studying and i wouldve gone over the edge!!). i know it sounds crazy, but i really focused just on first aid. granted i had been using my first aid this whole school year as a notebook, taking notes and filling in the gaps, but seriously, i probably wouldve died if anything were to ever happen to my precious first aid!

anyway, how long does it take to get results? how do you know when results are in? is there a website you can check?

my numbers so far:
qbank- in the 70s, random timed
free 150 questions- 75%
NBME1- 530
NBME2-600
NBME3-540
NBME4-580
(i took these all pretty much 2 weeks before the real thing)

which NBME is the most accurate? i thought 2 was impossible but somehow was my best score...

im so PARANOID that i made a bunch of stupid mistakes and i keep having dreams/nightmares about all of the questions, mostly questions that werent on the test but that im making up in my sleep!! haha

anyone else have these dreams after the test? do they ever go away?

ive enjoyed reading all of your posts on these forums! congrats to all who have finished, and good luck to those still plugging away!
 
Hi everyone. I took step 1 on 6/5 and thought I would share my story. First of all I think the best way to prepare for this exam is to learn as much as you can in your first two years and start to make connections as soon as possible. Use your review books along with class to make sure you are truly learning what is important - for all you first years or soon to be first years reading this.
In terms of exam preparation, personally I took about 4 weeks to read all of the major review books; (BRS, CMMRS, HY series, Selections from Lippincott's biochem, and Pharm for boards and wards) while annotating into FA what I thought to be important info that FA was lacking. After I reviewed each subject I would do most of the Qbank questions from that specific subject, I found qbank to be a much better study source than a prognostic tool. After reviewing all the basic science subjects I used nothing but FA and Qbank + Qbook for the last week before my test while taking NBME 1 and 2. I thought this method was effective and the only thing I think I would change was not to bother memorizing Qbank minutiae (chromosomes, HLA's, etc).
In terms of the test itself I thought it was straightforward for the most part. Most of the questions were reasoning questions on the basic principles of disease and therapy with very little minutiae (of course there was some). It is much higher yield to know the basic principles of disease (pathophysiology) than to memorize every obscure point about every single disease. Path, Phys, Molec bio, and Behav seemed especially high yield but all tests are different.
Thanks to everyone on this forum for sharing their experiences and advice, it truly is a great help for any medical student about to face a test as challenging as Step 1.

Qbank: 84% (by subject)
Kaplan Full Length: 83%
NBME1: 800 (5 days before)
NBME2: 800 (3 days before)
Step 1: should know July 19th
 
Dunce said:
Is there any correlation with the scores from the free 150 released questions?

I just saw a post above from someone who made a 239 after getting 73%? on the free questions taken two days before step 1. I got 74% earlier today (one week until step 1) and am wondering what that might mean -- if anything. The Medfriends score estimator seems to start jumping up pretty high for scores that break 75% and creep up into the 80s.

whew. After reviewing the answer explanations provided by Kaplan, I can safely say that about 15 of the 39 that I missed could be considered "careless" mistakes -- either things that truly were dumb mistakes or just material that I knew but did not take the time to work through to get the correct answer. And that is a good thing for me because I feel like there is tons of room for improvement over this last week.
I was also missing a bunch of biochem stuff -- I guess i will take the advice of a lot of people on SDN and focus on nailing some high yield biochem while I still have some room to stuff it into my brain.

Moral of the story: take your time.
I just blew through this free test in less than 1.5 hrs and it shows on my performance. I think the key to Step 1 will be focusing well on each question and taking the time to reason through each answer option.

Thanks for the advice so far
 
TRC08:

hmmmmm.....I would say that you probably rocked the **** out of it.
I will go ahead and congratulate you now.
 
I realize that a lot of people have asked a similar question, but I would still be curious to know:
a) Which of the 4 NBME tests is "the hardest"?
b) Which one of them is most representative?
Obviously, the is extremely subjective, but still...

I just recently took Form 3 and I found a lot of the questions quite ambiguous. So even with questions in subjects I feel confident about, I'd be able to eliminate most answer choices, but I'd still end up having to guess between 2 answers. So my "gut feeling" was that I got somewhere around 200. Surprisingly, I ended up doing pretty well (670, predicting a 253 score). Of course, that made me want to stop studying and enjoy other things in life, until a brief reality-check led to me to a conclusion that I probably just got lucky with my "educated guesses." After all, I hardly ever break the 80% barrier on the Kaplan tests.
It'd really be awful to get a false positive sense of readiness.
Has that happened to a lot of people - i.e. getting good results on nbme and then being unpleasantly susprised by the real thing?
 
I posted this under the wrong thread last night. I took it yesterday (6/15/06).

Well, I can hardly believe it but I am finally done. First of all, I really want to send a genuine thank you to everyone in this forum who has posted their experiences-- it was an invaluable resource for planning my study plan and kept me motivated and encouraged these past several months. I took my test today and wanted to go ahead and post my experience for anyone that it may help; i will attach my scores after i get them in about 6 weeks.

I studied for about six and a half months (more concentrated for the last 7 weeks once classes ended), getting through all of the material 4-5 times in total. I first attacked the subjects I was weakest at (physio and path), and then moved on from there. At first it took me at least 1 week to get through each subject, but by the end I could review a subject in a few days or less. I also took the live prep kaplan course in the city where i go to school for 3 weeks (but i skipped the path and most of the phys).

Sources
Physiology-
1)BRS (i was very weak in this subject and i thought the explanations were basic and easy to understand. i read all of the chapters except for the first 2 and i also did all the questions in the back of each chapter.
2)Kaplan webprep videos (cardio and renal only-- i used these to fill in any blanks, things not covered in BRS)
3)i bought a big, detailed physio reference book to read up on anything that i really didn't understand after BRS and Kaplan

Path-
GOLJAN. I followed along in his Rapid Review path book and used this as my sole path source. Personally, this was my weakest subject going in and I felt that these resources brought it up to one of my best. Goljan really worked for me-- he is an amazing teacher and gets down to explaining WHY things are going on, not just the what, which is what the exam really focuses on.

Pharm-
First aid, Kaplan webprep, Kaplan live prep lectures. This is where live prep really worked for me, but most people i talked to just focused on FA. I never used notecards for course work, but i made pharm notecards a few weeks before i took the exam and thought that was a helpful way to learn it. I focused mainly on the cardio drugs, CNS, and antibiotics (cancer drugs are minimally tested).

Micro-
Read micro ridic simple to get a broad overview. Then I really focused on FA. I also took the kaplan micro live prep and thought this was pretty helpful for explaining actions of toxins and replication, but you could prob get the same info from just reading the kaplan micro subject book.

Biochem-
FA and kaplan biochem subject book/kaplan biochem liveprep (used webprep, but it was only minimally helpful for me bc i had a hard time understanding it). I thought this book was great for explaining and pointing out the important enxymes, and liveprep helped with this. For molecular bio, i took the advice from so many on this forum and used HYMolecular Bio-- to my surprise, there were definitely some q's from my test today that i prob got bc of that book.

Anatomy-
Kaplan anatomy subject book and kaplan webprep (for anatomy, neuroanatomy, and embryo). I also read through FA, HY Anatomy, and HY Neuroanatomy and looked at all of the images.

Behavioral Sciences-
Kaplan webprep videas and FA.

Question sources-
#1- QBank (i saved these for the last 6 weeks. scoring in the low-mid 50s at the beginning and low-mid 70s by the end, with the occasional score lower or higher. I stopped doing QBank the last week and so only finished about 86% of the Q's.)
#2- QBook-- all questions except one anatomy test and the path tests. Thought this book had GREAT explanations and helped me to brush up on unclear concepts.
#3- Kaplan Full Length (71%, 3 weeks before my real exam).
#4- 150 USMLE released items (74%, 2 weeks out)
#5- NBME exam #2 (520, 1 week out)

I also used a few questions (about 50-100 max from each) of the blue Lange Q. book and the Rapid Review question book (thought these q's were GREAT, but didn't have time to really incorporate them into my study schedule, i probably should have).

I really tried to push myself and, due to a lot of self-motivation and incredible support from my family and some close friends, i really didn't feel any burn-out until the very last week.

I really hope this helps someone out there still studying or first starting to study for this. I will post my scores when i get them and anything else that comes to mind that could help in the coming weeks. Best of luck to all.

-cd1998
 
MCAT 25
Q bank avg: 67% (mostly random questions)
NBME #2 540 (3 weeks before exam)
NBME #3 620 (1 week before)

USMLE score: 240/97
 
Hey Lakun,

CONGRATS!! 👍 That is awesome!
I was wondering if you would be willing to share how you prepared and what you thought was most helpful to you?


lakun said:
MCAT 25
Q bank avg: 67% (mostly random questions)
NBME #2 540 (3 weeks before exam)
NBME #3 620 (1 week before)

USMLE score: 240/97
 
lakun said:
MCAT 25
Q bank avg: 67% (mostly random questions)
NBME #2 540 (3 weeks before exam)
NBME #3 620 (1 week before)

USMLE score: 240/97


WOW! That is inredible! This gives me so much hope. I had such a rough time with the MCAT. Congratulations!!!!
 
Undergrad gpa < 3.0
MCAT 28
Step 1 235/95
FMG

QBank: average 68%, random blocks of 50 (100% complete)
Kaplan QBook: (I felt these questions were closer to the real thing than QBank)
FA: I annotated heavily in the margins and started using it consistently my second year.
UCV: These are great books that really hit the big concepts along with some of the more obscure diseases. Takes considerable time to get thru the whole series but they're worth it if you have the time.
Robbins Review: Great questions which focus on the core concepts in path, didn't have time to go thru all of them but worth the time and effort.


Questions for you SDN'ers: As a FMG, (U.S. citizen) do you think I have a decent shot at the more selective programs? I am assuming I would not have a problem getting FP, IM or Peds if I so desired but what about the more selective programs? Thanks for the advice and G-luck to everyone else waiting for scores.
 
heifetz said:
Undergrad gpa < 3.0
MCAT 28
Step 1 235/95
FMG

QBank: average 68%, random blocks of 50 (100% complete)
Kaplan QBook: (I felt these questions were closer to the real thing than QBank)
FA: I annotated heavily in the margins and started using it consistently my second year.
UCV: These are great books that really hit the big concepts along with some of the more obscure diseases. Takes considerable time to get thru the whole series but they're worth it if you have the time.
Robbins Review: Great questions which focus on the core concepts in path, didn't have time to go thru all of them but worth the time and effort.


Questions for you SDN'ers: As a FMG, (U.S. citizen) do you think I have a decent shot at the more selective programs? I am assuming I would not have a problem getting FP, IM or Peds if I so desired but what about the more selective programs? Thanks for the advice and G-luck to everyone else waiting for scores.

As yet another 2nd year, I have no practical idea how the residency admissions work. That said, if I was a member of a residency admitions committee and saw someone with "ok" MCAT and GPA scores, who subsequently pretty much aced the boards, I'd definitely want him in the program. Congrats heifetz! People like you are very encouraging for those of us, who still have to take that thing.
 
I took the test end of April and studied for 8 weeks. 4 weeks we still had class in the morning and 4 weeks were just studying.

Form 2 before studying - 260 (151)
Form 3 3 weeks before test - 480 (214)
Form 4 1 week before test - 580 (236)
q bank - 70ish, i dont remember
released questions - dont know the percentage but they arent representative of the real test at all
Step 1 - 249/99

i basically started from scratch when I started studying so i wasnt really concerned about my prestudying score. i pretty much just crammed for a couple days for every exam during the last 2 years so everything was pretty much brand new for me again when i started studying for boards. i hadn't even bought first aid or micro made ridiculously simple until i actually started my scheduled studying. i used brs path and phys, hy neuro, embryo, histo, gross anatomy, ridiculously simple, micro cards, pharm for boards and wards, q bank, q book, and first aid. i actually thought first aid was a piece of ****. it really doesn't have anything in it. q book had the best questions, a lot of which had similar variants on the real test. never listened to the goljan lectures, i didnt really know when id have time to just sit there and listen to someone talking. i did a organs based schedule which i thought worked well. i was doing really poorly on histo but during my review during the last week, i read each organ systems chapters in hy and looked at all the pictures and ended up getting a * for that section, it didnt take much time at all but paid off a lot. i think i was able to concentrate on only the information i needed to know and filter out any of the stuff only people shooting for 260+ try to memorize (HOX genes) so i wasnt that overwhemed with the overall amount of information although i didnt feel that way during the first week when i was completely freaking out about how much **** i had to lear. i probably had at least 15 marked answers on every section during the real test. there were probably at least 5 questions on each section that i had to make complete guesses on. time was never an issue. i felt comfortable coming out of it but felt like i could have gotten anything from 210-250. good luck, third year is infinitely better.
 
teddy12 said:
should i finish up the qbank or do a nmbe exam?

which nmbe exam should i do?
thanks

it depends on what your goal is. if you just need a boost to your confidence, take the nbme. it will give you a score that is supposed to correlate really well with your true usmle score. if you're still trying to learn and review stuff, finish qbank.
 
bigfrank said:
Here's the problem with you: You posted early in the thread that you got a 247, which is a fine score. It's not going to land you any residency spot you want without many other credentials (like a decent personality), but it is a fine score.
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I hope you were kidding about this, because you usually give sound advice. With that said, NO SCORE is going to guarantee a residency spot...not even your 267.
 
It was tough but at the same time I thought it was doable if I had like 80 min per block. Almost EVERY TEST IS DIFFERENT!!! I went in to the test with the advice of upper classmen, whom all said watch your time, do the ones you know first (this really helped for me but may not help others so practice each method on qbank and see how you do), and expect to see about 5-7 ?’s of things you have never heard of.

In general my test emphasized the 4 P’s (Pharm, Physiology, Pathology, Patho/Phys) as do most people’s test. The Phys and Patho/Phys was heavy in Cardio (Cardiac Vascular function curve, cardiac cycle, MI complications, evolution of MI, enzymes, etc…) and Pulm (Spirometer, even one question on helium dilutional method for measuring TLC). Lots of graphs and tables and experiments you have never heard of but can figure out. The Path was all over the place and covered almost every organ system.

I had a lot of pharm questions about autonomic drugs (just like in qbank where they give you drug X and a graph, drug Y and a graph, and then drug X and drug Y). Probably had like 8-10 questions on autonomic drugs. Few questions on Neuro drugs, mostly side effects and MOA (Love the depressed cheese eating guy who suddenly gets HTN). Know your side effects of Cancer drugs and immunosuppressants, had a few of those. Antimicrobials are important usually MOA, side effects, which to avoid for a girl whose knocked up (I’m terrible).

Now for the rest of the subjects I just thought I would go thorough each section briefly and tell you what I thought about each one

Behavioral Science
Had a lot of what would you do next, say next, or advise this patient type of questions, at least 10. Some were tough and I usually could narrow them down to at least 2 and just picked one (this was a general theme on my test for the harder questions, narrow it down to 2 choices and then pick). Had a few on the Bell shaped curve so make sure you know where each Standard deviation is and what percentage of people fall in that population (i.e. 1 SD = 68%). Know your table and all the sensitivity, specificity PPV, NPV, odds ratio, relative risk, prevalence, etc… all that crap! Those NBME practice tests always had a developmental milestone question and the real thing did too! Had one ? on ego defenses. I thought this section was about straight memorizing the info because they just asked me to regurgitate it on the test.

Biochem
One word for my test: VITAMINS!!! Know this **** cold, Goljan does a good job I like him. Enzyme Kinectis pretty easy. Know your Collagen synthesis. Believe it or not I had stain question about Vimentin. I actually didn’t have a lot of metabolic stuff on my test besides def in vitamins or cofactors and what substance would accumulate because of that deficiency. Like Goljan says know your rate limiting enzymes for metabolism. One Lysosomal storage disease question. I had a few questions on dyslipidemias and I wish I went over that a little more. Know your heme synthesis. This section again was memorizing information and just spitting it out, only a few ?’s required actually thinking. Know your fu%&^# vitamins!!

Cell Biology/Molecular biology
Thank god I took 2 semesters of biochem in college. As some people have mentioned earlier this is being tested on quite frequently. I did buy that HY book everyone was talking about but I flipped through about the first 7 chapters when I had extra time. I had at least 7 questions in this subject. Really random but not well covered in First Aid for sure!! Lots of logical thinking here.

Embryology
Lets see, I looked at it twice throughout my studying and the second time was about 4 days before the test and im so glad I did. Just memorize and spit that info out when they ask it, nothing else.

Micro/Immuno
This subject is very very long!! Stupid Micro. Anyway, I had some really picky questions from this subject especially the micro part but on my exam I probably got like a total of 8 questions for my entire *#!#%$% exam, and I studied it so hard. I used made ridiculously simple because they had stuff in there that wasn’t in First Aid. Know your Immunodef. Know your cytokines. I got a question about cell surface proteins (pg 186). Heard a lot of different things from people in my class so my advice is to know this section because of the volume of info they can ask maybe a lot or a little. Stupid Micro!

Organ system questions are my test were divided into either really really straight forward if you know your stuff from First Aid to somewhat difficult that would expand on a topic in First Aid but not found in First Aid (Get my drift).

Endocrine
I know of at least 6 other people that got an EM picture of the adrenal and they just flat out asked what is made here or consequences of destroying this area or what could you give to increase production in this area. Regulation pathways are very important they always ask this, had at least 7 questions!! For example a person with pseudohypoparathyroidism would have which of the following values for PTH, Ca, P, etc… and they would give you a bunch of up and down arrows. This could be done with lots of diseases so know it! The pathology wasn’t bad, most giving you a characteristic and you pick out the disease or what drug to give. Know how to distinguish central DI from nephrogenic DI.

GI
Almost all Pathology for me. Relatively simple if you know BRS Path and First Aid. Had the most pictures in this organ system. Know risk factors for getting certain diseases (i.e. pickled foods in East Asia can predispose you to stomach cancer). Qbank does a good job with gallstones. Again mostly path and not that bad if you know your stuff

Heme/Onc
Stupid Heme/Onc. Didn’t have that many questions on this subject, which was good for me b/c it was my weakest. Anyway, I had 1 peripheral smear question and you had to identify the disease (mine was hereditary spherocytosis). Know the description of an apoptotic cell. The diseases associated with neoplasms came up a few times (pg 294). I had like 3 tuberous scelerosis questions. Know your oncogenes and tumor suppressor genes and what disease they cause or are associated with. Paraneoplastic effects was straight forward. Everything else was straight forward ( anemias, thalassemia, bleeding disorders). No questions on hodkins or non-hodkins for me. Goljan was right about the leukemias you can practically get the answer by age. Again the drugs were mostly side effects of caner drugs and immunosuppressives for me.

Don’t remember much about Musculoskeletal

Neuro/Psychiatry
Know your pics for this subject. They will give you a description of a disease which is really obvious but they will ask you to point out which structure on the brain is screwed up. I went through the Neuroanatomy review in Webpath like a few days before my exam, it payed off!! The rest of my neuro was a crap shoot; tested a bunch of randomw stuff found in First Aid or HY NeuroAnatomy. Know the anesthetic stuff had a few questions.

Renal
For me it was heavy mostly in physiology and drugs and a little on path. Most of the physiology I know was covered 2nd year but wasn’t covered well in the review books. Drugs were MOA and Side effects

Reproductive
Mostly path for me and first aid was good for this in my opinion. Didn’t have much on breast diseases, which I was thankful for.

Things to take home with you.
Every test is different so just b/c I said it was on there doesn’t mean you should go out and study it nine times before your test. My best advice for studying (like everyone else has said in the past) is to do well your first two years in med school. I can’t emphasize that enough!! I would be taking the test and there were questions that were not covered in any review book but the only reason I knew the answer is b/c it was emphasized in class. I used First Aid during class for Cardio/Resp, GI, and Renal. I got lazy and didn’t do it for the rest but I recommend that you do.
So at the start of my 2nd semester of 2nd year I read through First Aid once for the entire month of January. In February I went through the micro charts in Ridiculously simple ( I recommend going through the pharm in first aid too b/c I had lots of free time, wish I had done it). Starting doing 50 random qbank timed questions in the middle of March. Before that I would do about 20 random just to get a feel for it and worked my way up. Once March started I pretty much read through BRS phys, then BRS Path, and then First Aid. Before my test in June I went through the BRS series twice and First Aid 3 times. I went through Goljan audio one time and I liked it! Other books I used for reference but didn’t read all the way through were HY Neuroanatomy, HY Beh Science, HY Anatomy ( does a great job of integrating path and really good for arm and leg stuff), HY cell/molecular biology (1st seven chapters, but should have read all of it). I took NBME forms 1 and 2 and at my school we had 2 other tests (CBSE) made from the same guys that we took at end of March and April.
It was a tough experience and I recommend studying with people so you can keep your sanity. I just studied with people in the room who wouldn’t distract me or talk to much but at the same time were there to ask me ? and for me to ask them ?. It helps keep the material fresh. I knew I needed a lot of time to study because im not very good at standardized tests and I really wanted to do well on Step one. Tommorrow is my first day of psychiatry so im still chillin. Hope this helps and isn’t too *$&#^@! Long. If you have any more questions just PM me. Gluck! I’ll keep you posted with all those numbers from my practice tests and the real thing.
 
Hey thanks, this was very helpful. I especially liked the page references for first aid!

Bono said:
It was tough but at the same time I thought it was doable if I had like 80 min per block. Almost EVERY TEST IS DIFFERENT!!! I went in to the test with the advice of upper classmen, whom all said watch your time, do the ones you know first (this really helped for me but may not help others so practice each method on qbank and see how you do), and expect to see about 5-7 ?’s of things you have never heard of.

In general my test emphasized the 4 P’s (Pharm, Physiology, Pathology, Patho/Phys) as do most people’s test. The Phys and Patho/Phys was heavy in Cardio (Cardiac Vascular function curve, cardiac cycle, MI complications, evolution of MI, enzymes, etc…) and Pulm (Spirometer, even one question on helium dilutional method for measuring TLC). Lots of graphs and tables and experiments you have never heard of but can figure out. The Path was all over the place and covered almost every organ system.

I had a lot of pharm questions about autonomic drugs (just like in qbank where they give you drug X and a graph, drug Y and a graph, and then drug X and drug Y). Probably had like 8-10 questions on autonomic drugs. Few questions on Neuro drugs, mostly side effects and MOA (Love the depressed cheese eating guy who suddenly gets HTN). Know your side effects of Cancer drugs and immunosuppressants, had a few of those. Antimicrobials are important usually MOA, side effects, which to avoid for a girl whose knocked up (I’m terrible).

Now for the rest of the subjects I just thought I would go thorough each section briefly and tell you what I thought about each one

Behavioral Science
Had a lot of what would you do next, say next, or advise this patient type of questions, at least 10. Some were tough and I usually could narrow them down to at least 2 and just picked one (this was a general theme on my test for the harder questions, narrow it down to 2 choices and then pick). Had a few on the Bell shaped curve so make sure you know where each Standard deviation is and what percentage of people fall in that population (i.e. 1 SD = 68%). Know your table and all the sensitivity, specificity PPV, NPV, odds ratio, relative risk, prevalence, etc… all that crap! Those NBME practice tests always had a developmental milestone question and the real thing did too! Had one ? on ego defenses. I thought this section was about straight memorizing the info because they just asked me to regurgitate it on the test.

Biochem
One word for my test: VITAMINS!!! Know this **** cold, Goljan does a good job I like him. Enzyme Kinectis pretty easy. Know your Collagen synthesis. Believe it or not I had stain question about Vimentin. I actually didn’t have a lot of metabolic stuff on my test besides def in vitamins or cofactors and what substance would accumulate because of that deficiency. Like Goljan says know your rate limiting enzymes for metabolism. One Lysosomal storage disease question. I had a few questions on dyslipidemias and I wish I went over that a little more. Know your heme synthesis. This section again was memorizing information and just spitting it out, only a few ?’s required actually thinking. Know your fu%&^# vitamins!!

Cell Biology/Molecular biology
Thank god I took 2 semesters of biochem in college. As some people have mentioned earlier this is being tested on quite frequently. I did buy that HY book everyone was talking about but I flipped through about the first 7 chapters when I had extra time. I had at least 7 questions in this subject. Really random but not well covered in First Aid for sure!! Lots of logical thinking here.

Embryology
Lets see, I looked at it twice throughout my studying and the second time was about 4 days before the test and im so glad I did. Just memorize and spit that info out when they ask it, nothing else.

Micro/Immuno
This subject is very very long!! Stupid Micro. Anyway, I had some really picky questions from this subject especially the micro part but on my exam I probably got like a total of 8 questions for my entire *#!#%$% exam, and I studied it so hard. I used made ridiculously simple because they had stuff in there that wasn’t in First Aid. Know your Immunodef. Know your cytokines. I got a question about cell surface proteins (pg 186). Heard a lot of different things from people in my class so my advice is to know this section because of the volume of info they can ask maybe a lot or a little. Stupid Micro!

Organ system questions are my test were divided into either really really straight forward if you know your stuff from First Aid to somewhat difficult that would expand on a topic in First Aid but not found in First Aid (Get my drift).

Endocrine
I know of at least 6 other people that got an EM picture of the adrenal and they just flat out asked what is made here or consequences of destroying this area or what could you give to increase production in this area. Regulation pathways are very important they always ask this, had at least 7 questions!! For example a person with pseudohypoparathyroidism would have which of the following values for PTH, Ca, P, etc… and they would give you a bunch of up and down arrows. This could be done with lots of diseases so know it! The pathology wasn’t bad, most giving you a characteristic and you pick out the disease or what drug to give. Know how to distinguish central DI from nephrogenic DI.

GI
Almost all Pathology for me. Relatively simple if you know BRS Path and First Aid. Had the most pictures in this organ system. Know risk factors for getting certain diseases (i.e. pickled foods in East Asia can predispose you to stomach cancer). Qbank does a good job with gallstones. Again mostly path and not that bad if you know your stuff

Heme/Onc
Stupid Heme/Onc. Didn’t have that many questions on this subject, which was good for me b/c it was my weakest. Anyway, I had 1 peripheral smear question and you had to identify the disease (mine was hereditary spherocytosis). Know the description of an apoptotic cell. The diseases associated with neoplasms came up a few times (pg 294). I had like 3 tuberous scelerosis questions. Know your oncogenes and tumor suppressor genes and what disease they cause or are associated with. Paraneoplastic effects was straight forward. Everything else was straight forward ( anemias, thalassemia, bleeding disorders). No questions on hodkins or non-hodkins for me. Goljan was right about the leukemias you can practically get the answer by age. Again the drugs were mostly side effects of caner drugs and immunosuppressives for me.

Don’t remember much about Musculoskeletal

Neuro/Psychiatry
Know your pics for this subject. They will give you a description of a disease which is really obvious but they will ask you to point out which structure on the brain is screwed up. I went through the Neuroanatomy review in Webpath like a few days before my exam, it payed off!! The rest of my neuro was a crap shoot; tested a bunch of randomw stuff found in First Aid or HY NeuroAnatomy. Know the anesthetic stuff had a few questions.

Renal
For me it was heavy mostly in physiology and drugs and a little on path. Most of the physiology I know was covered 2nd year but wasn’t covered well in the review books. Drugs were MOA and Side effects

Reproductive
Mostly path for me and first aid was good for this in my opinion. Didn’t have much on breast diseases, which I was thankful for.

Things to take home with you.
Every test is different so just b/c I said it was on there doesn’t mean you should go out and study it nine times before your test. My best advice for studying (like everyone else has said in the past) is to do well your first two years in med school. I can’t emphasize that enough!! I would be taking the test and there were questions that were not covered in any review book but the only reason I knew the answer is b/c it was emphasized in class. I used First Aid during class for Cardio/Resp, GI, and Renal. I got lazy and didn’t do it for the rest but I recommend that you do.
So at the start of my 2nd semester of 2nd year I read through First Aid once for the entire month of January. In February I went through the micro charts in Ridiculously simple ( I recommend going through the pharm in first aid too b/c I had lots of free time, wish I had done it). Starting doing 50 random qbank timed questions in the middle of March. Before that I would do about 20 random just to get a feel for it and worked my way up. Once March started I pretty much read through BRS phys, then BRS Path, and then First Aid. Before my test in June I went through the BRS series twice and First Aid 3 times. I went through Goljan audio one time and I liked it! Other books I used for reference but didn’t read all the way through were HY Neuroanatomy, HY Beh Science, HY Anatomy ( does a great job of integrating path and really good for arm and leg stuff), HY cell/molecular biology (1st seven chapters, but should have read all of it). I took NBME forms 1 and 2 and at my school we had 2 other tests (CBSE) made from the same guys that we took at end of March and April.
It was a tough experience and I recommend studying with people so you can keep your sanity. I just studied with people in the room who wouldn’t distract me or talk to much but at the same time were there to ask me ? and for me to ask them ?. It helps keep the material fresh. I knew I needed a lot of time to study because im not very good at standardized tests and I really wanted to do well on Step one. Tommorrow is my first day of psychiatry so im still chillin. Hope this helps and isn’t too *$&#^@! Long. If you have any more questions just PM me. Gluck! I’ll keep you posted with all those numbers from my practice tests and the real thing.
 
2TIM4:7 said:
I hope you were kidding about this, because you usually give sound advice. With that said, NO SCORE is going to guarantee a residency spot...not even your 267.
You trolled on over here to ridicule me again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Did any you guys start studying during the summer between the first and second years? The reason I am asking is because I recently purchased a kaplan Qbook and I was wondering it it asked questions just on first year parts? If not, are there question books that asked questions just on first year material?
Thanks
 
kashif said:
Did any you guys start studying during the summer between the first and second years? The reason I am asking is because I recently purchased a kaplan Qbook and I was wondering it it asked questions just on first year parts? If not, are there question books that asked questions just on first year material?
Thanks

It does ask questions from just first year topics, but it would be an utter waste of time to use those questions up now. Save them for spring of 2nd year.
 
missbonnie said:
bump, anyone get results who took it late May/early June?

They'll be released on July 19th (according to the USMLE website) for anyone who took it May 20th through the end of June.
 
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