Good luck all. I have my exam end of March and hope to be the 1st one to post here for 2010.
I just wanted to post my score for all the average students on here!
I took the exam june 28th and got a 221. My average UWORLD score was in the mid-high 50s - I only completed about 60% all in tutor mode. I had in the 40s on Kaplan and completed only 10%. I read through first aid twice thoroughly. I did not use any other resources.
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Thanks for not calling that a mediocre score
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Test date: 7/2/2010
Results: 247/99/pass
Resources used:
-First Aid 2010
-Goljian (Audio Only)
-WORLD (first pass 53% using timed mode 20Q by category, 2nd pass 89% using timed random 46Q)
-Small amount of KAPLAN Q BANK (~10% completed ~65% in 46Q timed random)
Assessments:
NBME1 - 190 (4 weeks out, no studying)
WORLD1 - 224 (2 weeks out)
WORLD2 - 244 (5 days out)
Actual - 247
Between NBME1 and WORLD1, I had sped read FA, reread FA by section, and done the entire WORLD bank by category. Between WORLD1 and 2, I had listened to goljian and reread FA once (huge bump just listeing to goljian seriously, but as others have stated, WORLD exam 2 is very generous). Between WORLD2 and Actual, I burned through the WORLD bank again a 2nd time.
Up until recently there were admission requirements to join this forum. You needed to submit your MENSA membership card, fax your your SAT and MCAT score reports (minimum, 1400 and 32), and last but not least, post your score on facebook announcing to the world you're a tool.just double checking, but isnt a score above like 235 still amazing? It seems like even the top specialties have avg step 1 scores below 250 for those who match. Is SDN truly that much of an outlier that everyone posting on here is averaging 250+? That's crazy. But congrats to all of you, hopefully I can emulate that in a year.
just double checking, but isnt a score above like 235 still amazing? It seems like even the top specialties have avg step 1 scores below 250 for those who match. Is SDN truly that much of an outlier that everyone posting on here is averaging 250+? That's crazy. But congrats to all of you, hopefully I can emulate that in a year.
Drop everything but UWorld and FA. Goljan is superfluous, contrary to many of the posters here. Lots of us only used it during our classes, but strictly as a reference during the step study period. You need to learn FA inside and out and if you can apply it in UWorld, you'll pass.
Questions:
1.How should my daily study schedule be like? How should I be thinking while studying. And how long should I now study before taking this again?
2. How does this affect my chances of residency? Esp in GI/Cardio and Neuro? Do you know anyone with a similar experience?
3. Is it better to have a second go at step 1 with a great score than barely pass the the first time?
Thank-you!!!
Maybe you guys who are using 5+ books are way smarter than me, but I found First Aid so dense and full of facts that it was impossible for me to memorize everything. Instead, I think the keys to doing well on the test are getting a certain amount of the facts down, building up your stamina by taking a lot of random timed UWorld blocks, and understanding the concepts. The last one is key - memorization is great but you need to understand the connections too. No need to add extra sources unless you just HAVE to have 250+.
Completely agree. Goljan is great for getting a great score. But from 180 to 220 should be FA + Qbank.I agree if your goal is just passing. However, if you want to do well, I think this is where Goljan is money.
Drop everything but UWorld and FA. Goljan is superfluous, contrary to many of the posters here. Lots of us only used it during our classes, but strictly as a reference during the step study period. You need to learn FA inside and out and if you can apply it in UWorld, you'll pass.
its an outlier - selection bias, or whatever you want to call it - most posts are by people scoring 240+...only a few posts by those scoring below 240 (i.e.: the brave ones).
I have to admit, I feel my 244/99 score is dwarfed by some of the scores posted on this website. But rather than developing an inferiority complex, I think its important that people with scores below 250+ (but still really good, i.e.: 225-240), be content with a solid score that will help in landing a great residency...its cliche, but you are only competing with yourself. On a humourous side note, the residency director of a top ER program told me she actually excludes applicants scoring above 250
....and not egotistical brains with no bedside manner or communication skills.
Well I'm done. I'll be writing my experience in 3 weeks when I get my scores. In the meanwhile, I'll be going through First Aid and UWorld withdrawal. Must suppress thoughts of results too. I don't know how you guys waited for your scores. It's been a day and it's already killin me!
Well I'm done. I'll be writing my experience in 3 weeks when I get my scores. In the meanwhile, I'll be going through First Aid and UWorld withdrawal. Must suppress thoughts of results too. I don't know how you guys waited for your scores. It's been a day and it's already killin me!
Haha, thanks for the words of wisdom. How did you feel after the exam?
Every time I hear a statement like this, it bothers me just a little bit. Scoring well on tests does not necessarily give someone a greater chance of being socially awkward. I don't know why there's this perception of these "arrogant, socially inept braniacs" running around, when in reality, most people who do well on tests at our level are equally as personable, communicative, and approachable.she was kidding of course, but I think what she meant to say is that she wants applicants who are not only smart, but also personable, approachable and work well in teams (which is the epitome of ER)....and not egotistical brains with no bedside manner or communication skills.
Every time I hear a statement like this, it bothers me just a little bit. Scoring well on tests does not necessarily give someone a greater chance of being socially awkward. I don't know why there's this perception of these "arrogant, socially inept braniacs" running around, when in reality, most people who do well on tests at our level are equally as personable, communicative, and approachable.
Every time I hear a statement like this, it bothers me just a little bit. Scoring well on tests does not necessarily give someone a greater chance of being socially awkward. I don't know why there's this perception of these "arrogant, socially inept braniacs" running around, when in reality, most people who do well on tests at our level are equally as personable, communicative, and approachable.
great job man. You must have worked really hard the first two years. Looks like your NBME's predicted you perfectly.Got the score back on 7/14/10:
Step I = 251
Scores on q-banks:
UW = 73% (unused, overall. at the end getting around 85% correct)
NBME6= 92%= 251
NBME7= 90%= 251
First Aid Q&A = 92%
Books used:
First Aid 2009, Rapid Review Path, BRS Phys
Hope this will help someone out there. I studies for 3.5 wks and I thought I overdid it.
To those who have taken the test, how are the blocks and times set now? (I went and took the practice 150 at the Prometric site on Saturday and the test format seemed to be very different than what I was used to on UWorld or the other NBME exams. My total break time for the entire exam was available at start of the exam and it looked like it included time that carried over from reading the tutorial.
243/99
Maybe not your typical SDN score, but for a slacker like me, I'll take it!
All right so I took the plunge yesterday and surprisingly came out alive and well. Folks, this test is very fair and doable. If you learned your stuff well this past 2 years, you will do more than fine. All right, the specifics.
My test was scheduled for 8 but I got there at 650 and it wasn't even open yet. So I waited till they opened and they processed me (haha) and I started at 720. They need your permit and valid government ID. They give you a locker to put your stuff and ask you to turn your phone off. You cannot bring anything (besides what I will tell you) into the testing area with you (they make you empty out your pockets everytime you take a break). Anyways, then they take your fingerprints and picture. They will give you laminated paper, where you will write your CIN number (which you use everytime to check in), an eraser and a marker which along with your ID and locker key is all you can take inside.
Time doesn't start until you enter your CIN number. The first block is a tutorial. Don't bother with it (just end the block and give yourself an extra 15 mins of break time added to your allotted 45mins). The only thing I recommend is to put on your earphones and hit next in the tutorial. If you hear a noise, it means your earphones are working. Then you can start your next block. There are 7 blocks with 1 hour allotted to each one. If you finish with time left, it gets added to your break time.
I took my breaks after each 2 blocks, I wasn't tired after the first 2 blocks but I took a break nonetheless, So 2 blocks, break, 2 blocks, break, 2 blocks, break. last block. This helped because I wasn't even tired after the last block. For food, I had a good breakfast. I didn't bring a big lunch or anything. When I studied I used to snack on nuts and dried fruit so I brought that. They say it helps to bring what you normally snack on while studying. During each break, I ate a little bit, I used the bathroom (even if I didn't have to go) got some water, and walked around outside for a bit in the sun.
Ok, now the meat of the email, the test. Honestly, it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. Of the questions: 10-15% were ridiculously easy, 20-25% were the hard ones (of these, 1 or 2 were WTF is this english?, and the rest were the ones that only 30% get correct in UWorld type). The rest were mediocre where if you study well, you should be fine (these were usually 2nd-3rd order questions). Stem-length-wise, the test resembled NBME 7 the most (as in some were long and some were 2-3 sentences max but more of the long ones--hint: it really helps to read the last 2-3 sentences first because it helps you know what they want and sometimes they give you the diagnosis so you don't have to waste time reading and figuring it out yourself).
Some blocks were easy overall (I finished block 3 with 30 mins to spare) and some hard (block 4 with 5 mins to spare). I had, I would say, about 4-5 qs per block that had slides that weren't very hard and on which the stem really helped.
My test was heavy on pathophys and physiology (lots of up and down arrows). I also had a ton of immuno (they asked everything from simple mechanisms to detailed molecular and cellular interactions) but this could just be selective memory and know that not all the tests are the same. Everything else was evenly distributed, even embryo had a fair amount. There was CTs, X-rays, MRIs, and gross for anatomy and neuroanatomy (some hard, some easy). Micro and pharm weren't as detailed as I thought they would be (again not all tests are the same).
The questions are mostly conceptual, as in can you put together everything you've learned and answer this question (you can't go back and see if you got it right in FA because it's not that simple) and the general part of FA (before the organ systems) is most important I would say. Behavioral was simple (even the stats and epidemiology were very simple like PPV, specificity stuff, hard-weinberg type). Biochem could have been harder but thankfully it wasn't. Like I said, it was fair overall.
Oh, I had two audio questions which I thought were hard. It was the one where you move the stethoscope around the chest area.
My stats:
3/15-NBME 4: 231 (16 wks out)
4/30-USMLERx: 71% (9 wks out) (100% complete)
5/3 - NBME CBSE: 233 (9 wks out)
5/22-UWSA 1: 236 (6 wks out)
5/30-Free 143: 87% (5 wks out)
6/6 - NBME 3: 231 (4 wks out)
6/6 - UWSA 2: 244 (4 wks out)
6/20-NBME 5: 238 (2 wks out)
6/23-UWorld: 73% (2 wks out) (100% random, tutor)
6/26-NBME 6: 242 (1 wk out)
7/2 - NBME 7: 251 (4 days out)
Btw, this forum has helped me immensely. Thank you guys for everything. Good luck to all those who still haven't taken it and those awaiting their scores.