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Hello everyone. I am a second year who will write the exam in June 2011. Meanwhile let this be a good thread where everyone share their study progress and recent trend of the exam.
Haha....sometimes I wake up, look at my calendar, and go back to bed...
Universally, you will have the full range of replies. Of course there are going to be random factoid questions, but I felt that if you truly are strong at applying concepts and integration, then you are far better off.
Many people say they understand the concepts and they got pimped on random questions, but oftentimes they are lying to themselves. Even on the questions I was completely clueless about, I was able to calm myself down and narrow my choices by looking at the answer choices, word derivations, etc.
lol, i envy you.
Thanks. I'm banking on my test taking skills and reasoning to get me through this rather than pure memorization of FA. I'm generally really bad at memorizing stuff, but better at figuring things out (was a physics/math person in undergrad fwiw). I just hope that I'm not shooting myself in the foot by not doing more passes of FA. It's just really hard to sit and read, since most of the time my mind starts wandering.
So, I fled the anticipatory 7/13 thread to try and dodge some of the neuroticism, but I figured I'd say good luck to everyone "expecting" tomorrow.
I will be checking my score as soon as I can. After rounds I guess. Will try and add to the "here's what I did" posts in this thread if my results make that useful.
Sweet flying space monkeys I'm finally done with that. Off for some sun soon!
Quick brief recap (I may post a bigger one later)
Exam was overall pretty fair. It was about UW difficulty, with a few easier questions, a few harder questions, mostly in the middle. My preparation definitely helped me for most of them and even the ones which I wasn't entirely sure about, I managed to make educated guesses on. Until I know how the curve is however I absolutely refuse to speculate on the score.
By subject:
Embryo - pretty simple, often very straightforward. There was only one embryo question which took me a minute and then I smacked myself in the head. Overall not that many, maybe 1-2 per section.
Anatomy - straightforward anatomy was fairly low yield, but I had something like 3 or 4 questions on the prostate/pelvis, which has always been tough for me. However I think I managed to approximate a good answer for many of them and that's really all I can ask for. There were a couple of ridiculously easy ones too though to even it out (including a common peroneal nerve fracture at the fibular neck).
Path/Pathophys/Phys - by far the biggest component of the exam. There were a few up/down arrows per section which weren't too bad, and only one of them really stumped me for a bit, but I think I figured it out. Also I really wish they didn't use "+" signs as it confuses me which answers I crossed out and which ones I didn't sometimes as a result. Overall this is fairly high yield stuff, and ranges from very straightforward to somewhat tough.
Pharm - surprisingly, this was one of the simplest. Most of the questions were straightforward mechanisms of action or side effects. A few required some thinking but otherwise it was fairly good. Only one of the questions really confused me and I think I made a good educated guess nonetheless.
Biochemistry - also surprisingly, not that hard. A few questions were on lipid metabolism, a few were glycogen storage diseases, and a few were lysosomal storage diseases as well. This was probably the biggest surprise for me since I had spent a lot of time expecting very very tough vignettes on these, and I came out feeling pretty good about it.
Molecular bio/Genetics - also not that bad, fair mix of easy and hard questions. There was one random question about "hydropathicity" for which I had no effing clue what they were talking about but otherwise it was pretty straightforward. A lot of them involved lab techniques and interpreting them, and there were a few pedigrees. There were also 2 or 3 questions amazingly which involved hardy weinberg stuff, so I'm glad that I paid attention to this.
Immunology/Micro - there's been speculation on whether this was super high yield since they're "shaking it up" a bit and adding new questions... and to be honest I don't know. Most of the immuno questions were very simple and straightforward, or required a little understanding of maturation processes (which you should be able to dredge up from your immuno courses if you were taught it well). I had only one vaccine question, and it was the expected "which of these has the most immunogenicity" one. There were a couple micro diseases I was unsure of but I managed to narrow it down and guess for one, and the other was some random disease "from Minnesota" and asked for what two other diseases were carried by the same vector. Not too bad.
Behavioral - ooo this got a little tricky at times. The ethics questions/"situation" questions could get a little rough and there was one situation I had never come across on a practice question but I think I guessed it correctly. The psych was for the most part simple and straightforward. Amazingly I had a grand total of ONE psych drugs question, and it was a mechanism of action question... definitely overstudied those, but better safe than sorry.
Neuro - THANK GOD, no brainstem pictures. There were a few side views/gross views of the brain talking about different lesions and such, but they were either obvious or they required a small bit of thinking to figure out (aphasias, middle cerebral artery strokes, etc). Had some extraocular muscle questions and a spinal cord cross section question which were easily discernible. I had only 2 or 3 drug questions on neuro and they were all very straightforward.
Biostats - I'm very thankful I looked at the equations and definitions last night. I had at least 3 or 4 questions on study designs and a couple questions on math stuff. These are very easy points to get and you can do yourself a favor by not skimping on the biostats!
What I did, and also what I shouldn't have done:
- Raymon's pharm lectures were CLUTCH for this exam, and I am so glad I did them.
- UW and FA are golden. There were a few details from FA that I got as questions on the exam which people sometimes skim over. DON'T.
- Kaplan qbank was definitely waaaaaaay harder and more nitpicky, but it provided good practice. Also, the font used by them is the same as the one on the real interface, which was nice.
- Goljan was... sort of helpful in the end. He helped me learn some of the concepts but not that many of his "high yield" things came up on the exam, and most of them were in FA already anyway. It was definitely absolutely worth it to go through though.
- I would have spent more time on Behavioral Ethics in retrospect.
- You're going to come out of some sections feeling like crap. Don't worry about it. You probably did fine.
- I doubt an extra week would have helped me get a higher grade and I think the time I spent was sufficient.
All in all, glad I'm done, and glad that's over. Peace out!
Took the test a week ago, so with some time to digest what happend:
The greatest tool for me was definitely gunner training. I did not use it as extensively as I should have during the year and if I had another month I would have attempted to hit completion for the mastery portion. There are parts that are definitely overkill in terms of exam material, but seeing it every day repeatedly helps the concepts stick in your head. Again for those that prefer the flashcard model, this is definitely a system that works.
After that, it has to be First Aid, Goljan, and UWorld. I used Goljan extensively throughout the year while studying for Path and concepts that he taught repeatedly came up on the real thing. Listen to his audio as many times as necessary for your studies.
Know First Aid front to back. Even one word in first aid can alter the answer you put down and I know that a couple times I would remember the page the answer was on but just couldn't bring out the specific memory I needed.
UWorld is awesome for both learning and getting used to the format of the test. It really represents a cross-section of the type of questions you may see, although it does tend to be a bit more knitpicky than the real thing.
Other than that, I used various review books here and there but it really comes down to how well you laid the foundation during the first two years because it is pretty difficult to squeeze in all the random anatomy and extraneous bits of info that you may come across during those 6 weeks.
Practice tests, roughly chronological
NBME6 - 235
NBME7, 11, 12 - 240s
UWSA 1,2 - 250s 260s
free 150 - 92%
real thing - ?
And finally, please get a good night's sleep the night before. I didn't and I probably ended up with at least another 5, 6 questions incorrect because I was simply dead beat after not getting enough rest. If I could change one thing about how I studied, getting sleep would be at the top of the list.
Good luck to everybody who has taken and will be taking the test. Now for the waiting game.![]()
Just took it today, and I will just say that the real exam was helluva lot harder than the NBME exams and much more random than the UWorld QBank. It wasn't even in the "If I'd spent a bit more time reviewing this material or thought smarter, I'd have known this" category but rather the "I know this disease/anatomy but WTF I've never heard of the obscure detail this question is asking for" category. Lame. At this point, all I can do is rely on the curve. Frankly, I thought UWorld was easier than the real exam. Pretty much most of UWorld can be answered using the information from FA, but I'd say only about 70% of the material on the real exam covered details I had seen in FA.
Not to mention, many of the questions had long and extensive clinical vignettes...I finished each block in time, but I was sometimes cutting it close there and seldom had much time to review (as opposed to the NBME exams, where I had around 15 minutes left after my initial run).
Edit: Just to give you an idea of where I'm coming from: Got 245 on the last 3 NBME exams I took (11, 7, and 6).
If I took the test on june30th when can I expect my scores? Thanks.
266/99
Congrats to everybody getting their scores to day.
Will post more on study methods when I get the chance later. =)
266/99
Congrats to everybody getting their scores to day.
Will post more on study methods when I get the chance later. =)
Final score: 251/99
Prior practice tests:
USMLERx Exam 1: 238
USMLERx Exam 2: 240
NBME 11: 240
NBME 7: 250
NBME 12: 238
UWSA1: 265/800
UWSA2: 265/800
Final UW Average, second pass: 80% (timed blocks), First pass: 70% (tutored)
Final Kaplan Average: 74%
So it looks like in the end, my score was closest to my NBME 7 score, so I guess there's *some* validity to that argument that it's the closest approximation? haha.
Overall, no complaints.
Real deal-244/99...Im happy with that....that makes me competitive for anything right? I really have no clue what i want to do.Took it yesterday:
Scores:
NBME 7: start of study period: 220 I think
UW1: 1.5 weeks in: 254
NBME 12: 2.5 weeks in: 240
NBME 11: 3.5 weeks in: 242
UW2: 4.5 weeks in: 248
DIT: 4.5 weeks in: 246
NBME 6: 2 days before: 245 or something around there.
Overall: Not too bad. With the exception of not starting the test till almost two hours after i got there, it went pretty smoothly. The exam felt pretty doable..knock on wood.
Anatomy/Neuroanatomy: I was scared by all these horror stories, but overall this was one of the easier parts of my test. There was alot of arm/leg nerve pathology that was simple. The strokes were pretty simple. No brain stems, but did have a spinal cord that was pretty easy. There was one that I didn't know, but I feel like those better in anatomy may have been able to get it based on the level of the CT, but I pretty much was only able to narrow it down to 3.
Pharm: Overall was not bad, not a single SHIPP question. I think I only had one cancer drug. There were a decent amount of GI drugs and a decent number of P450 interactions (like 3). A few pharmocokinetics (pretty sure I brain farted on one of them..im kicking myself, but I cant remember what i put.)This was also a very doable section of the test.
Micro: Alot of HIV/AIDS path and related diseases, but I think only two pharm questions. Most of it was really straight forward. YOU DO have to know Virus structures and stuff. I had one question that basically required you to know which was encapsulated, one where you had to know which one was segmented (and no it wasnt the flu), and one you needed to know which virus was SS +/- RNA.
Immuno: While my test had a lot of immuno, I thought it was all pretty easy. A few immunodeficiencies, alot of Interleukin/TNF/stuff questions. I think all of it was in first aid, maybe some I knew from Uworld, but not sure.
Biochem: Easier then Uworld. Two questions on interactions with isoniazid (basically the same question twice). Some vitamin deficiencies and toxicities. One question, I felt was unfair and actually had two answers. It was a really simple concept, but just stupid. I did refer a patient in this section, not sure if its the correct answer but I felt it made sense. Otherwise, not too bad.
Embryo: I dont have much recollection of it, I dont think it was too high yield on my test. I did have one tough quesiton saying that an ultrasound of this baby shows___, what serum markers are you most likely to see. They then listed like 6 up/down/normal arrows. 2 of the things I had never heard of, but I think i narrowed it down to two.
Behavioral Science: This is high yield. Know how to calculate the specificity, PPV, NPV, NNT, etc. Alot of ethics questions (idk maybe 15?). I usually do really well on this section on my practice tests, but two of the ethics questions I wasnt sure of, and one It was literally just a blind guess.
Cell Bio/Histo/Inflammation/tissue repair stuff: This was a pretty high yield section, and first aid might not have been enough. I would recommend probably consulting another source for this, but I think I knew most of them, but if I could go back I would have probably spent an extra half day on this.
SYSTEMS:
CARDIO: This felt heavily heavily tested in my test, I even had two questions that were nearly the same in the same section! Thankfully I knew it. This was also the section that I had my two part question in. I had two heart sounds, and while the stem didnt give it either away, im 90% sure I got them both right. Not much pharm in this section, but alot of path.
RENAL: I also had a lot of questions on this, and going into the test was most worried about this section (beside Anatomy). Most were ok, but there was one that I think I may have gotten right, but the only reason why I knew anything about the disease was from the free 150. Alot of arrow questions on this section.
PULM: the next heavily tested system. They werent too bad, but this also had alot of arrows that I hope I got right.
PSYCH: Nothing really stands out in this section. I had some questions but they were ok.
REPRO: Nothing really much to say about this section either. Know whats in First aid, fo sho.
HEME/ONC: A decent amount. One question about Hodgkins that I had no clue about. I literally was only able to eliminate one answer.
ENDOCRINE: Pretty high yield. Be able to interpret Arrows.
MSK/DERM: I had 4 questions that I never saw anywhere in First aid or uworld. One I remembered from DIT, one from Class..one I think I made a pretty good guess on but not sure if it was right, and one I still have no clue on.
EXTRA TIDBITS: Be able to interpret graphs, there are a decent amount of them. I also had a few quesitons that really didnt seem to test much beside high school/college algebra math ( I feel most of you guys would be able to figure them out). I had one extremely LEFT FIELD QUESTION THAT WAS ACTUALLY BORDERLINE SEXUALLY INAPPROPRIATE. I had a good laugh, but it was pretty out there.
OVERALL: long long Day. I marked between 4 and 9 questions a block. (Im sure I made some stupid mistakes or missed some that I didnt mark though)
I usualy finish blocks of questions with like 20 minutes left on UWORLD, after quickly reviewing my answers, and while I never ran out of time on any blocks and had to randomly bubble in answers there were two sections that I would have liked a couple extra minutes to figure a couple questions out. I highly recommend reading the question first if the question is longer then a few sentences..that way you can gloss over the irrelevant info, of which there is much. Also knowing key lab values will help.
Also, make sure you really really read carefully. I had a few questions were the entire stem I was thinking one thing, but then i read one small word or phrase and it changed my answer to something different. READ CAREFULLY.
The test felt in between the difficulty of NBMEs and Uworld with a little more randomness.
I didnt notice any repeats of NBMEs or UWORLD, but similar concepts tested, obviously
Glad its done. Hope I did somewhere around my test scores (of course higher would be great! ha). Good luck yall. Hopefully this is helpful to some. Ill answer some questions till i go on vacation!
Will add study plan, when I get my score
Gonna briefly detail my study plan, PM for more details.
1. Used UW during the year to study along with path, pharm, and micro. It helped my grade in those classes AND also built up my knowledge base for the Step 1.
2. Annotated UW questions on my first pass during second year into FA.
3. During my dedicated study time, reset UW and bought Kaplan Qbank to use along with my studying for practice. This isn't always necessary but it provided me with a bunch of questions to do when I was bored of studying, and it would occasionally provide me with details that I may have glossed over in First Aid.
I also bought Rx to be able to do designed practice exams although I don't much like the actual format or Qs of Rx.
4. Followed a modified version of the Taus method for most of my 6 weeks of dedicated study time. In addition I watched Kaplan videos for some of the subjects which it was helpful for (Raymon's pharm, for example).
5. Following up to the test I did NBME 7, 11, and 12, and UWSA 1 and 2 a few days prior. Took the day off prior to my exam, and it felt good.
supppp score twinWas doing pelvic exams all day so I couldn't check more score. Got home today: 244/99!
My tips: Try to memorize FA (you won't be able to). Do UWorld. Have RR Path on hand to clarify FA and listen to Goljan while you work out (ie, during times when you can't study FA). Do NOT try to study RR Path or other resources besides FA. This will spread your time too thin and you won't be able to drive home the important points. The day you take your test, you STILL won't know everything in FA, so there is no need for additional study material. SO HAPPY!!
test day may 17th
238/99
The whole wait I thought I did terrible.
Good luck to everyone today !
271/99
-UWSA1- 3 months out - 245
-"Free 150" at pro-metric test center - 91% at 1.5 months out
-NBME 11 - 4 weeks out - 259
-UWSA2- 3 weeks out - 265
-NBME Comprehensive Basic Science Examination through my school 2 weeks out - 99 - (chart included with score report said anything >94 was equal to >260 on step one)
-Uworld first pass - 80% finished it about 3 wks before exam. last 1000 q's were done as random 46's and I was averaging 82-92% on those.
-Kaplan Qbank - Don't remember exactly. Did about half of it during the last month and was somewhere in the mid 80's
-We also took most of the NBME subject shelf exams for the second year courses about 3 weeks out. I was in the high 800s to 900s on those.
nbme's were not very predictive for me at all
5 weeks out nbme 1: 192
3 weeks out nbme 12: 217
2 weeks out nbme 6: 218 (frustrating to study and make no improvement)
real thing: 230/99
the last 2 weeks I went over everything again, and quit a couple days in at doing 2nd pass at uworld. The review of my notes was higher yield I think than doing the same questions again. It totally paid off. Was aiming for 218, never even dreamed of breaking 230.