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Hello everyone. I am a second year who will write the exam in June 2011. Meanwhile let this be a good thread where everyone share their study progress and recent trend of the exam.
HY Neuro: I actually sat and read through this entire book, which I think was the biggest waste of time during my dedicated study time because it took me 3 days to get through that book. If I could go back, I would only skim the first few chapters about general brain anatomy and also the section on angiograms. Everything else (pathways, diseases, syndromes) are all in FA.
anyway...congrats on putting step 1 behind you!
Thanks skinMD! Your suggestion in one of my other threads about using tutor mode was what helped me get through most of UW in the short time I had. I agree with you 100% about HY neuroanatomy. It was way overboard for the neuro part of the exam. If I had those 3 days back, I would have been able to finish off the UW qbank.
took my exam a few days back.
The first few blocks were fine but the last 2 or 3 were particularly hard. I hurried a bit through the questions.
Came back home and tried to not think of the exam. Didn't work! I think I made at least 30-45 mistakes in all the 7 blocks....and wondering I may not be able to reach my 240+ goal.
Alright, I have a question for the people who have already received their scores or know anything about Uworld assessment.
UWSA 1 - 198 (6 weeks out)
NBME 11 - 205 (4 weeks out)
UWSA 2 - 238 (today, 4 days out)
uworld % - 55%
I have read on here multiple times that UWSA overpredicts, but I am just curious as to what kind of score I should be expecting assuming things go ok on Tuesday with scores above and how much stock i should place on USWA 2 that i took today?
Alright, I have a question for the people who have already received their scores or know anything about Uworld assessment.
UWSA 1 - 198 (6 weeks out)
NBME 11 - 205 (4 weeks out)
UWSA 2 - 238 (today, 4 days out)
uworld % - 55%
I have read on here multiple times that UWSA overpredicts, but I am just curious as to what kind of score I should be expecting assuming things go ok on Tuesday with scores above and how much stock i should place on USWA 2 that i took today?
I'm sure you did fine. Don't forget the experimental questions mixed in... which could account for 30-45 questions.
I agree with you though, my first few blocks were okay but the 5th, 7th and 8th were all tough for me (although maybe I was just tired).
Damn, I'd flip out if I had just finished the 7th block and was expecting to see the end of exam survey, but instead was faced with a bonus block 88th block? Interesting...
8th block? Interesting...
hello, my exam was on 22nd July, it was really anatomy, neuro heavy... I also had some really weird behavior and phyiz qns.... The fact that I made at least 6-10 careless stupid mistakes, mostly on phyiz, has been making me feel really worried... and want to kick myself!!!
Got my results back this morning. Feeling a little embarrassed because, as you can see from my post-exam post, I was feeling overconfident. It just goes to show that you can leave there feeling like you did horrible and do great; OTOH, you can leave there feeling like you did great and not do as well as you thought you did. I ended up getting 247/99, a far cry from the 260 it felt like I got!I hope this doesn't come across the wrong way. The point of this post is to help calm the nerves of my fellow brothers in arms who have yet to take the USMLE. I took it today and was shocked by how easy it was. I went in there with feelings of dread, terrified actually. All I could think about was all of the stuff that I did not know, sure that all of that stuff would be what they tested me on and that I would bomb the damn thing. After every block, I was left thinking "ok, the next block is surely going to kick my ass." Anyway, I got done with the 7th block and realized that I never got my ass kicked. YOU CAN DO IT!
I can say that I went over FA 2X and did 14,000 DIFFERENT practice questions and was still asked MANY RANDOM questions that I had never come across before. For example, random thing about iritis and tattoo removal. Folks, this was a THINKING test. I had very few questions that just straight up required me to regurgitate facts from FA. I'm sure that if I had only read FA 7 times, as opposed to doing so many questions, I would have had a MUCH rougher time. Having done so many questions, I had such a fine tuned sense of what the question was going to ultimately ask after having only read the opening 2-3 sentences of the vignettte. With that being said, I give the test writers a TON of credit for originality. Like I said, this is a THINKING test, requiring more common sense, strategy, and test taking skills than knowing facts from FA.
I don't want to come across as toolish or arrogant, but there was only 1 question out of 322 that I had no idea wtf they were even asking. I spent 3 minutes on the damn thing, reading it over and over, and could not piece it together. I left there thinking I may have missed 10 questions on the entire exam. I mean, 90% of the questions it just seemed like I knew the answer with ultimate certainty. Out of the remaining 10%, 8% of those I felt comfortable choosing the answer that I did after narrowing it down to 2.
As for the breakdown of the exam, it's all a blur. I can say that the previous poster was dead on about the cell bio/genetics stuff being the most challenging. Those were the ones I had the hardest time with. They like to just show you an image, and then they will ask you "What does this mean?" w/o any other background info. Otherwise, the exam didn't seem to have questions that were just straight path, phys, etc. The questions were so unlike UW or any other of the 14000 questions I did. I was really surprised by how original the test writers were. Instead of having specific questions by discipline, my exam as a whole seemed to require the ability to INTEGRATE all of the disciplines for one question. It makes sense though, since that is how real medicine is. If anyone has any questions, I will try to answer. I think I did VERY well, and will post a copy of my score report whenever I get it so as to substantiate everything I've said.
Got my results back this morning. Feeling a little embarrassed because, as you can see from my post-exam post, I was feeling overconfident. It just goes to show that you can leave there feeling like you did horrible and do great; OTOH, you can leave there feeling like you did great and not do as well as you thought you did. I ended up getting 247/99, a far cry from the 260 it felt like I got!
I am also Caribbean IMG. I think most of it has to do w/ how seriously one takes basic sciences. I never made the Dean's list and was a half-asser, so it was requisite for me to prepare the way I did!Not going to lie, but after reading all your posts about your exam and preparation, I felt really inadequate in terms of my preparation.
I did UWorld once and read through FA a couple of times and did DIT. I felt like I would do 220 at the most after comparing the way I prepared to the way you prepared, but I guess it just goes to show you, different ways work for different people. You don't need to do 14,000 questions, but you do need to learn how to read and interpret questions properly... I think that's honestly like 65% of taking these exams. The knowledge base between all med students is pretty similar. Analytical thinking plays a huge role I believe.
Congrats on your score, it's a great score and can get you into many places. I'm happy with my 250/99. Having a chip on my shoulder for going to a carib school only made me work harder to dispel the stigma that we're inferior students. The 250/99 is something no one can ever discount or take away from me. Congrats to everyone on a job well done.
Not going to lie, but after reading all your posts about your exam and preparation, I felt really inadequate in terms of my preparation.
I did UWorld once and read through FA a couple of times and did DIT. I felt like I would do 220 at the most after comparing the way I prepared to the way you prepared, but I guess it just goes to show you, different ways work for different people. You don't need to do 14,000 questions, but you do need to learn how to read and interpret questions properly... I think that's honestly like 65% of taking these exams. The knowledge base between all med students is pretty similar. Analytical thinking plays a huge role I believe.
Congrats on your score, it's a great score and can get you into many places. I'm happy with my 250/99. Having a chip on my shoulder for going to a carib school only made me work harder to dispel the stigma that we're inferior students. The 250/99 is something no one can ever discount or take away from me. Congrats to everyone on a job well done.
Very well put, and thank you!I just want to point out, and also to any IMGs reading this, that whatever stigma that exists against you guys is immature and ******ed.
Medicine is medicine is medicine. That's it. Almost every medical student across the world studies out of the same textbooks and has access to the same internet resources as US students. Medicine is composed of scientific facts and theories, it's absurd to assume that those set of facts taught in one country differ so drastically from the set of facts taught in another country that one becomes superior/inferior to the other.
Congratulations on good scores! And good luck on clinical rotations.
I just want to point out, and also to any IMGs reading this, that whatever stigma that exists against you guys is immature and ******ed.
Medicine is medicine is medicine. That's it. Almost every medical student across the world studies out of the same textbooks and has access to the same internet resources as US students. Medicine is composed of scientific facts and theories, it's absurd to assume that those set of facts taught in one country differ so drastically from the set of facts taught in another country that one becomes superior/inferior to the other.
Congratulations on good scores! And good luck on clinical rotations.
After only a couple days I have the horrible feeling creeping in that I made a crap ton of mistakes, and starting to feel like I will be lucky to just pass. I know most people feel bad about the exam, but do many people leave feeling ok (not good but just ok) and then realize they made a lot of mistakes and things still turn out good?!?!?
238 on UWSA 2
I got a 238 on UWSA2 3 days before my exam, which is on Saturday .
Everyone says it over predicts, but it was only 4 points above my last NBME 12. I was rereading old posts about UWSA2, and I don't think I found any significant anecdotal evidence that it over predicted (given that you didn't get like 260+ish on it). I'm just hoping that I might be around there, and that I can hopefully work on my weak areas before the actual test
It over predicted my score by 10 points, 5 points for friend A and 7 points for friend B.
But you got 261 on UWSA2- or that is what I read in an old post by you.
I wrote that I did notice it overpredicted people that got a 260 in...which would be your score. So, your post seems to be consistent with my assessment.
But you got 261 on UWSA2- or that is what I read in an old post by you.
I wrote that I did notice it overpredicted people that got a 260 in...which would be your score. So, your post seems to be consistent with my assessment.
thanx, that's kind of how how I am feeling, I would def. be happy if my situation turned out like yours. I just wish I could forget about everything and only worry if I get my scores and they are bad. I made a 238 on UWSA 2, 4 days before my exam and fig it overpredicted my score by a lot, but I felt that the real thing was very similar to the uwsa. I hope this fairy tale has a happy ending.
Just took the exam today....got my ass HANDED to me.
Average of 17-20 marked questions per section, and I usually get more incorrect. Difficulty was beyond Uworld and Kaplan. I studied hard and well for this exam, and I truly gave it my best today. My qbanks and assessments were on point.
I give props to those who score 250+, this test is no joke.
this thread gave me just about all of my ideas for prep, so i felt compelled to give a little back. my prep had 3 major phases. I slacked 1st year and knew I'd have to really bite the bullet 2nd year if I wanted to get a score I would be proud of. It's not that long, forget about going out and distractions and get this done...anyway, my prep:
1. do well second year in path/pathophys/pharm. I used GT from november until my test date. peaked at 99% complete with 70% mastered. switched to lite mode once my dedicated time began due to time constraints, but i thank that program for my path shelf grade (90+). It works, use it if you learn by questions or tend to wonder what's for dinner/on tv/what's going on later while 'reading' texts.
2. I triaged my worst 3 subjects and started with them first. I did this 6 months before my test. I used GT to memorize micro + immuno (which ended up being the bulk of my exam). I used the kaplan biochem notes and lectures (bought the course, used it for biochem, realized the rest wouldn't be worth my time and returned the course for a full refund and got to keep the books...not sure if this is common but it was my experience). During this time I began using usmle RX, trying to do as many questions as I could.
3. 6 weeks before my exam I began my dedicated time. I focused on completing UW at first, and annotating FA. I read through BRS for phys then watched the kaplan pharm videos (raymond made all my pharm questions gimmes). My studying for the path shelf made path a lower priority for me. I ended up doing all of UW once with marked questions again, then about half the kaplan qbank in subject based mode. I also used tutor mode for all these, as I never had trouble with timing and would suggest this for those who can't stand re-reading the question while reviewing. I took 3 nbme's and the UWSA's:
5 = 212 (~12 weeks out)
UWSA1 = 238 (6 weeks out)
6 = 242 (4 weeks out)
11 = 243 (2 weeks out)
UWSA2 = 263 (4 days before)
Real slim shaddy = 253
Hope this helps someone. Best of luck to everyone. Focus on your weaknesses and just buckle down.
Read through whole FA once, read part of the micro section and the biochem section once more
Did 300 UWorld questions
85 Kaplan questions
My score was 198. I was just very glad to pass.
This was EXACTLY my experience (down to the attractive prometric chick). The length of the vignettes was absurd, and at least half of the content I've never seen before. Some questions were so clinically detailed, you could probably see them in Step3.I really did feel like I failed. 8 brutal hours. Was pretty much depressed that night. Looked up some questions (which I NEVER do) after the exam - and I had missed some gimmes. Even more depressed.
My test was HARD. Def harder than uworld or the practice nbme's. Much much harder. I felt like I could have spent another 2+ wks on FA/Uworld and still wouldn't be enough prep. Yea, it was that bad. Soo depressing.
I was like 'the hell', 'what in the world', 'how am i supposed to know that', 'no way' etc etc throughout my ENTIRE test. lol during uworld practice, I usually marked like 10 or so...but always had at least 10-15 mins to go over each section. The real deal? Marked at least 20-30 (no joke), skipped at least 5-6 per section, and had just <5 mins to go over stuff at the end. So basically, I had zero time to go over my answers...something that I always did in med school. SUCKED. Stems were LONG, confusing (random hint - I dont even bother looking at all the lab values, 70% of them were useless detractors) and tiring. And the cute prometric chic that was hitting on me kept on coming into the room - extra distraction. Argh!
Well said. This is the one thing keeping me from hanging my head.Just do you and be the BEST you can be. Thats good enough.
I got a 238 on UWSA2 3 days before my exam, which is on Saturday .
Everyone says it over predicts, but it was only 4 points above my last NBME 12. I was rereading old posts about UWSA2, and I don't think I found any significant anecdotal evidence that it over predicted (given that you didn't get like 260+ish on it). I'm just hoping that I might be around there, and that I can hopefully work on my weak areas before the actual test