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Hello everyone. I am a second year who will write the exam in June 2011. Meanwhile let this be a good thread where everyone share their study progress and recent trend of the exam.
So guys, I gave the beast on aug 10, just got result today...had been preparing for a while. Did all kaplan books except patho, hy behav, hy acid base, hy embryo, hy neuro (only some chapters). UW first pass on random unused was 76%, uwsa1 238, nbme 7 247, nbme 11 231, nbme 12 252, uwsa 2 260.
The real deal : 244 - 99
Lets just say being on SDN for a long time and seeing eye popping results has made me almost embarassed to share this score. I got worn out on the last block and felt quite fatigued. Im not saying its a terrible score, but by SDN standards it seems to be kind of a mediocre score...right? What do you guys think...maybe im just being ungrateful? Anyways at least the pain of not knowing is over. Will this be enough for a univ program residency in IM or neuro???
I took my exam on May 28th. I fully went into it expecting to feel like I was getting my butt kicked after hearing people's comments on here about their recent exams. I got through the first block feeling great and thinking I must have just gotten lucky with an easy block. I started the next block... same thing. Block after block... it never got very difficult. I would say ~75% were incredibly easy, stereotypical boards questions. Another ~15% required some thought, but I think I got most of them (UW-style questions). That 90% was found in FA. The last 10% was random stuff that I had never seen or just very tricky behavioral questions. The question stems were longer than in UWorld, but 5/7 blocks I finished with ~10 minutes to spare because most questions were so obvious.
I did not feel like my test had a "theme". It seemed quite well-balanced, minus some repeats. For example, I was asked to calculate PPV twice.
If I had to do it all over again, I would study neuroanatomy more and behavioral science - those were "attainable" questions that I struggled with.
I studied for exactly 6 weeks, 8-12 hours per day (most days closer to 8). My plan:
Weeks one and two: quick pass through FA, all the Goljan lectures at 2x speed. Started UW doing 2 blocks pretty much every day (continued until the last week - got through the entire bank). Was very thorough with reading explanations and annotating into FA.
Week three: read through Costanzo physio only reading the things I needed to work on (I was weak on physio) and that I thought would be important for the boards. (That means a lot of that book was pretty much ignored.)
Week four: went through some review lectures that my school prepared for us. That was mostly a waste of my time.
Week five: wrapped up the Qbank, read through all of FA.
Week six: read through all of FA x 2, wrote a note sheet that I could use to cram the last couple days. I really didn't memorize a lot of the details until this week as I have an outstanding short-term memory.
Practice scores:
5/10 - The free 150 - 123/143 (86%) - one website estimated that at at 251, another at a 240
5/15 - UWSA 1 - 128/184 (69.6%) - 236 projected
5/22 - UWSA 2 - 141/184 (76.6%) - 253 projected
5/20 - finished UW with 65.5% overall. Using the formula I've seen (avg * 2.4) + 84, that projects 240. My scores started at about 50 and ended in the high 70s most of the time.
We'll see what my score is come July 13th, but I'm optimistic. My original goal was 240, which I REALLY hope I hit. I estimate it will be anywhere between 230 and 250.
So guys, I gave the beast on aug 10, just got result today...had been preparing for a while. Did all kaplan books except patho, hy behav, hy acid base, hy embryo, hy neuro (only some chapters). UW first pass on random unused was 76%, uwsa1 238, nbme 7 247, nbme 11 231, nbme 12 252, uwsa 2 260.
The real deal : 244 - 99
Lets just say being on SDN for a long time and seeing eye popping results has made me almost embarassed to share this score. I got worn out on the last block and felt quite fatigued. Im not saying its a terrible score, but by SDN standards it seems to be kind of a mediocre score...right? What do you guys think...maybe im just being ungrateful? Anyways at least the pain of not knowing is over. Will this be enough for a univ program residency in IM or neuro???
I'd say that once you hit 250+, then +/- 5-10 points is luck. There is a real difference between a 250 and a 270 though IMO... and tig makes sure we all know it lol
A guy who got a 270 should be smart enough to know that people find different subjects to be more difficult. If I'm great at topic "x" even though people score poorly on that topic on average, my score will be inflated and I was "lucky" I saw those questions. If I suck at a topic but most other people understand it well, I'll get screwed if I get a bunch of those questions because not only will I miss them, but I'll be scaled down since they are "easy" (even though I would have crushed a much more difficult set of questions on my best topic).
Ultimately, every person has relatively weaker and stronger areas, and it works out best for you if (a) you get a majority of questions in your strong areas, and (b) your strong areas correlate to others' weak areas, thus scaling up your score.
hii people..i am new to this forum and i am planning to take my exam in november first week..i really get depressed by seeing the pace of my preparation but then i dont want to delay it any further..will 2 months be enuf for preparation if i manage to put 8-9 hrs a day? i am done with 60% of the uworld once and presently my 2nd reading of kaplan is going on...i plan to finish uworld n this second reading by september 20..hopefully i'll be able to do it..i havent read first aid properly yet..
hope u people can guide me..
Just a thought, if you had to choose between doing your FirstAid annotated with UW notes before the exam OR FA + UW annotations + giving entire UW a quick second pass, which would you go for? I guess the latter would be helpful but would it be worth the effort?
So guys, I gave the beast on aug 10, just got result today...had been preparing for a while. Did all kaplan books except patho, hy behav, hy acid base, hy embryo, hy neuro (only some chapters). UW first pass on random unused was 76%, uwsa1 238, nbme 7 247, nbme 11 231, nbme 12 252, uwsa 2 260.
The real deal : 244 - 99
Lets just say being on SDN for a long time and seeing eye popping results has made me almost embarassed to share this score. I got worn out on the last block and felt quite fatigued. Im not saying its a terrible score, but by SDN standards it seems to be kind of a mediocre score...right? What do you guys think...maybe im just being ungrateful? Anyways at least the pain of not knowing is over. Will this be enough for a univ program residency in IM or neuro???
Step 1: 260s
Most of the basics regarding what is needed to score well are already hashed out sufficiently on SDN. Therefore, I'm not going to regurgitate what's been said before ad naus, but instead offer a couple of small points of advice that I haven't seen given much attention:
--UW tutor mode is greatly undervalued. It should allow you to complete questions much more quickly, and to make the task less draining. Personally, I don't see the need to do "timed" questions until the very end, unless you have serious issues with time. With tutor mode, you can immediately see what you got wrong and why, rather than revisiting it after finishing an entire block. This, I believe, also saves time, as you won't have to reread the question stem when reviewing the question.
I kind of procrastinated with UW, and did it in its entirety over the last 2 weeks before my exam. I don't think I could've pulled it off without tutor mode, and as I've stated in a previous post, on a couple days I was able to do 500-600 questions while also writing detailed notes (which unfortunately I didn't have time to review before my exam). I just don't feel this would be possible using "timed" conditions due to the reasons stated above.
--Focus on learning and understanding rather than memorization during the first two years of school.
--I've seen a disturbing number of posts lately to the effect of "what sources should I use for a 260+?". The answer, I suppose, would be whatever sources are requisite for success in your coursework the first two years, with maybe some well-regarded board prep stuff thrown in the mix if you have time. No combination of review books or of repeating FA/UW multiple times will yield the degree of success attainable from having a good understanding of the material before your committed study period begins.
I won't offer advice on a study schedule as I'm admittedly not the most consistent student out there--I procrastinate a lot and oftentimes have a hard time getting motivated until the last minute. I have been fortunate to be pretty successful thus far in medical school, however, and I attribute this to focusing my energies on learning and understanding rather than memorization.
Hope this helps, and good luck to all future test takers!
Great post. I know what you mean about being an inconsistent student and procrastinating...there are a few of us out there. So I'm assuming that you didn't make several passes through all of the books (FA, RR...) while studying...would that be accurate?
congratulations for you...Gave step 1 today. Heres my prep and experience--
Disclaimer: I am a slow reader so dont get bogged down by my months of prep.
Prep:
Started almost 10 months back, very slowly and peacefully. Read (along with videos, except anatomy) Kaplan Lecture Notes, Goljan RR annotated with Goljan audio. Took around 6 months to complete ( !!!! ). Read Goljan RR yet again. Thereafter, took USMLERx, thinking that it would be a good way to get through FA, since I am not a person who can "extract" minute details in FA. It did help for like first 200-300 questions, then eventually I realized that its one of the worse banks out there. Put in one sentence- it no way resembles, from any angle, to the real test.
Eventually, signed up for mother of all- UW. Its amazing ! Trust me guys, UW is the best prep tool you will ever come across. I was working while doing UW and so could do like 1 random timed block and its review would take around 4-5 hrs. I made notes (by using notes function of UW) and at the end of 2 months I had like 130 pages of notes. The good thing about making notes is that you will have to summarize the concept explained in that particular question bcoz UW allows only 5 lines worth characters for writing notes per question. So it gave me immense clarity of the given concept. Ended up with 68% cumulative score (74th percentile??).
After finishing UW, did DIT for 1 month. It was again a good decision to do so, because it forced me to concentrate on stupid minute details in FA (which were actually on my test !!). DIT is really very strong in pharmac, neuro, micro and immuno. It sucked at embryo, anat, renal and respi. Others were in the middle. The way he teaches is not the best method,but surely a type of "cheatsheet" type of prep, I would say. I religiously did DIT and by the end, I knew what every corner of FA had to offer me.
UWSA1 - 240.
UWSA2 - 250.
DIT predictive test (not a good test in my opinion.. just 2 blocks and in worse format possible) - 238.
NBME 12 - 226 (10 days out) - toughest exam I have taken till date.. very long stems and tough !!
NBME 11 - 235 (9 days out).
After these 2 NBMEs I thought I was screwed. I had done everything possible. But decided to stick with what I had planned and just get this over with!
Most important part: Revised FA in last 4 days (very big achievement for a person like me). But this proved to be golden. My confidence level was quite high during the test since I had it in my recent memory. In my opinion, recent memory information helps you to eliminate that last distractor which nag many people.
On the day before exam, practically fooled around. Didnt study much because I had burnt out and thought it was enough. Still managed to just skim through notes of UW (only half).
REAL DEAL:
Got like 6 hours of sleep. Had horrible time getting to sleep. Was so restless and anxious. But guys, please take enough rest. Cant stress enough the importance for proper sleep.
Took pee and snack break after every block for about 8-9 mins.
Pathology: Had some weird histopath images from almost every organ system scattered throughout my test. But general pathology is also very high yield.
Micro: Though I am not sure, I think I had quite lot of micro . FA was enough in micro for sure.
Immuno: Had lots of questions. Some were repeatedly around the same concept. But had some stuff which were not in FA, but which were covered by Kaplan/UW. I would recommend additional resource for immuno, since it has been rewarded a new stand-alone section in USMLE curriculum, which actually reflected on my test.
Biochem: Had many questions. Most of them straight forward. FA is a good "larger picture" source. I would definitely read Kaplan biochem. Its really good.
Behavioral Science: I got below borderline scores in this sucker in NBMEs. Tried hard to fill in gaps in response questions (lots of them on my test). But overall, I would still rate BS as tough on my test. FA was enough because no book can prepare you for BS. You have to have a different kind of feel to answer such questions. UW is strikingly poor in BS.
Anat: Had decent amount of questions (certainly more than I had anticipated). Its very obvious that anat is getting respected by test makers more and more. Obscure pelvic anatomy. I had read people saying that they were heavily tested on pelvic anatomy. I ignored it and faced the music. Not even Kaplan was enough for anatomy. So I dunno what you can do to get anat right. Maybe skim through RR Anat if you have time.
Pharmac: Easy were very easy and tough were damn tough. All kinds of researchers doing all kindsa stuff ! I would say FA was enough here too. Tough remains tough, no matter what you read. The "weird" questions were generally longer than others, but if you really read into it, many of them had pretty simple concept behind it. Dont freak out by such questions. Take a deep breath and read the question patiently.
Embryo: Had like 3-4 questions of embryo. Straight forward. FA enough.
Resp: Dont remember much but probably, FA was enough.
Hemat/Onc: Had decent amount of questions. Goljan helped me nail this section with full confidence.
Neurology: Had lots of questions on Neuro. I hate neuro. So really tried to know every corner of neuro in FA. But FA didnt seem to be enough. Had lots of figures with labels telling me to point out all kinds of stuff. I would suggest to supplement Neuro (if you have decent amount of time) with some good graphical book or atlas and get your anat and physio part of neuro very straight.
Physiology + Endocrine: According to me, endocrine is all physio. Lots and lots and lots of up and down arrows. Some had like 6-8 arrows going in every direction. Its frustrating because even if you know the answer its difficult to chose that particular option bcoz of that small stupid arrows make you feel dizzy ! Fundamental concepts need to be very clear to answer the arrow questions. So instead of memorizing the arrow tables in various books, understand why. Because they can add 4 different parameters to that same concept. I would say FA was not enough in this. Goljan RR was really helpful.
Renal: Had some tough questions, but I think I figured out most of them. FA seems to be pretty enough for most, but not all questions.
Overall: MOST of the questions were NOT very long. I had many one-liners. Ones which were long were, on the contrary, easier. In comparison to NBME 12, every question was easier. NBME 12 is crazy ! NBMEs gave a decent idea to me what real test would test me with. It was quite accurate regarding "what real test would look like". Interface is no ways similar to the real deal.
Final words: FA, FA and FA (except mentioned above otherwise). I was glad to know that FA is still sufficient for step 1. UW rocks- interface is pixel by pixel same, almost all "concepts" are covered by UW. A great resource, start early in prep, use it ONLY as a learning resource. I loved DIT, but I am sure its a personal choice and all may not concur. Take rest day before. As someone already mentioned, step 1 is a test of knowledge and test-taking abilities. Try to get both areas at your peak before giving the test.
Let me know if you need further help. This forum has been my best friend during these days and it feels good to pay back.
I have one question: Since I gave my test today (Wednesday), can I expect my score on 7th Sept or will it be 14th Sept?
Tired, sorry for any typos. Chao.
thanks jfgavina .....too much resources imo.
I'm an average to low student back in my school and only did brs physio, cmmrs, rr bioch, hy bio cell 1999, rr goljan, one read in these resources. then UW+FA then kaplan (65% of the bank) and now im hitting FA+UW again
doing pretty well now.
way too much resources over there..
From Syria... and my friends from my faculty who are doing usmle.... almost all are doing kaplan lectures & videos + FA + UW...! but the problem is that i hate kaplan !I bought HY gross anatomy but didn't read it. I think it is too much. Stick to a narrow spectrum of resources and do lots and lots of questions. I am also an IMG. where are u from?
congratulations for you...
i would like to ask about my studying plan.... because i didn't see anybody doing it... so please i want your opinions about it....
Physiology: BRS Physiology
Biochemistry : Rapid Review Biochemistry + BRS Biochemistry, Molecular Biology & Genetics for only ML biology & genitics.
Pharma: Lange pharmacology flash cards + kaplan treatment cards
Pathology : BRS + Robins & Carton Q&A pathology
Anatomy : RR Gross & developmental anatomy + some chapters from HY molecular biology & histology + HY NEURO Anatomy
Mocrobiology & Immunology: MMRS + lange medical micro & immuno for immunology section only...
behavioral siences & biostat: HY
+ DOING UW
i dont like the big book first aid & i feel kaplan is boring & i really hate waching videos....
is my plan to study cover every thing & does it help me to reach 250s ??
I'm IMG....
WATING YOUR ANSWERS & COMMENTS ...
TNX.........
did my first NBME today, it was form 6 and took 470/214. have examination in november the 7th. do you think it is possible to reach 230?
thanks
Guys,
just wondering.... is wait times for May 2012 will be any different from what we see now?
btw is it still a month before you get results?
Anyone have good recommendations for neuroanatomy review, and maybe a better question - do you guys think neuroanatomy is that important to review? Does anyone know if images (i.e. brainstem cross-sections) are fair game step 1?
Anyone have good recommendations for neuroanatomy review, and maybe a better question - do you guys think neuroanatomy is that important to review? Does anyone know if images (i.e. brainstem cross-sections) are fair game step 1?
Know your spinal cord tracts, know your reflex arcs, and know the stuff in first aid. I read HY Neuro in a single day and I found that helpful, but it's not necessary if you're not trying to massacre the test.