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Hello everyone. I am a second year who will write the exam in June 2011. Meanwhile let this be a good thread where everyone share their study progress and recent trend of the exam.
Guys, how many path pictures are there on the exam on average? Because everyone seems to be using extra sources. Are FA + UW + RR path enough for the pictures?
I have the same question..
Is solving all the NBME forms worth?
Is solving all the NBME forms worth? I did 11. Exam in 18 days. What shuld I do? I was planin to take NBME 12 a week later. What about the rest? Does nbme help increase your score ?
how many questions per block on bioch? what type of bioch questions did they ask?
also, lots of non-FA UW stuff?
please someone!! with your experience do you think that not improving from one nbme to other w/ 10 days of studying may mean worse score on examination?
and thanks once more to all the ex-step 1 takers that come everyday to forum to help present step 1 takers!
The best move of my life, Dr. Seastone does a terrific job of explaining biochem in a way that someone like me (who never learned basic concepts) can not only understand what he was saying but I felt as if though I mastered it
Hi everyone! I recently took step 1 this August (scored 240 yayyy!) and I thought I should share with you guys what I studied. To prepare for the grueling exam I took aside 4 months in which I exclusively looked at First Aid, Kaplan Lecure Notes for biochemistry (which u can buy used at amazon), Goljan Pathology, and uworld. First of all, first aid is an excellent book! I would say that except 25 questions that all the rest of them came from this book! But of course many of us including I wasnt aware of this until I came home and tried to look up questions which I was unsure about. I wouldnt recommend this to anyone because whatever you got wrong, you got wrong and theres nothing you can do about it except get palpitations for 3 weeks until the results come out!! Ok I read first aid a total of 4 times and there were issues with it when it came to biochemistry. It was too superficial and summarized that I had a difficult time learning concepts and the test is NOT about memorization but about knowing concepts. So then I looked up handouts given to me from my school in regards with biochem but again I never paid attention in class and the notes were all gibberish! I learned about Kaplan and I knew many international medical graduates look at this so I bought the lecture notes along with the DVDs. The best move of my life, Dr. Seastone does a terrific job of explaining biochem in a way that someone like me (who never learned basic concepts) can not only understand what he was saying but I felt as if though I mastered it. I looked at the dvds once and the lecture notes twice. NEVER, ever do the lecture notes first b/c they are too complex unless if you have a good grasp of biochem. After the lectures, the notes are a breeze. I then did uworld and was scoring in the high 50s and low 60s which I was a little depressed about. My goal was to score at least a 70%. I realized that I kept missing a lot of histology questions and murmurs plus path. So I bought goljan pathology and read thru it within a month and I realized to pay close attention to the pictures that the book has, especially histology ..very similar histologic slide came on the real test. As for murmurs, I youtubed 5 sounds: mitral stenosis, mitral regurgitation, aortic stenosis, aortic regurgitation and patent ductus arteriosus. PDA is the easiest to remember but some murmurs sound really similar so I put the murmurs on my iPod and listened to them at least once during my last month of prep. Now I was scoring in the 70s but my final was 68% because I started uworld too early. I then did NBME forms 2, 4, 7. Form 7 is on the dot In it I scored 240, but forms 2 and 4 seemed a bit tougher. Form 7 also worked well for my girlfriends so that is what I would recommend. Its easy to say to get a good nights rest but practically its not happening. I slept for only 4 hours and had a good breakfast and bought 3 redbulls for the test as well as subway. The test started out a bit tough but then became easier .some of the questions were give aways and one liners while others required thought. I did learn one thing however, the longer the question, the easier it will be .I think they test you to make sure whether or not you stay focused. Process of elimination helps out so if you dont know the answer but you know which ones are wrong, just cross them out b/c its easier for your brain to concentrate that way! I had 4 questions on murmurs and two of them you didnt even need to listen to the sound, the question stem made it obvious. If anyone has questions, Im more than willing to answer on askresident.com
I really did. Was gonna write up my prep and yada yada post my exam, but felt that there was no one wld want to listen to how a loser prepped haha. Or maybe they wld - to know how NOT to prep?
I really did feel like I failed. 8 brutal hours. Was pretty much depressed that night. Looked up some questions (which I NEVER do) after the exam - and I had missed some gimmes. Even more depressed.
My test was HARD. Def harder than uworld or the practice nbme's. Much much harder. I felt like I could have spent another 2+ wks on FA/Uworld and still wouldn't be enough prep. Yea, it was that bad. Soo depressing.
I was like 'the hell', 'what in the world', 'how am i supposed to know that', 'no way' etc etc throughout my ENTIRE test. lol during uworld practice, I usually marked like 10 or so...but always had at least 10-15 mins to go over each section. The real deal? Marked at least 20-30 (no joke), skipped at least 5-6 per section, and had just <5 mins to go over stuff at the end. So basically, I had zero time to go over my answers...something that I always did in med school. SUCKED. Stems were LONG, confusing (random hint - I dont even bother looking at all the lab values, 70% of them were useless detractors) and tiring. And the cute prometric chic that was hitting on me kept on coming into the room - extra distraction. Argh!
Anyways..
My uworld average was somewhere in the late 60's/early 70's. I cant say exactly cos I kept changing my wrong answers to the right ones when I started doing my prep lol I didnt want to see those depressing 40%. So I actually dropped from 90's at the beginning (LOL) to 60/70's when I decided I knew enough to not feel bad about my score.
Anyways, i'm pretty much an average (+/-) student in class - struggled to make the mean in 1st year exams...things got a bit better 2nd year and honored 3 or so classes, nothing really spectacular.
Boards prep - Total of 6-7 wks prep - about 8 hours a day (on a good day really)...I don't know how all ya'll do 12 hour days. Guess that why you guys all score in the 260's?
Used primarily FA (went over it 2ce) and uworld (1ce)...and wiki. Had an extra neuro resource here and barely touched brs path (but was a bit handy). Thats about it. Prayed a LOT before and after my exam lol definitely needed that and I believe it played a HUGE part in me passing.
I'm beginning to wonder though - is it better to get a harder test? Cos I mean, almost everyone is gonna bomb the harder test, so the curve is a bit better? Cos I promise you - I felt like I failed the thing. Was ridic hard. Maybe all my sections were experimental? No joke. I just wanted to pass at the end - got really really sad during my last block...
So yea - easier test = harder curve? idk..
Anyways, I scored in the mid 230's. Good enough for me really as I'm not going for anything super competitive and I really really did think I failed it...or at best didnt reach the 200 cut off.
Advice - work hard 2nd year. Start board prep early (only if you can and if it doesnt interfere with you learning 2nd year stuff!). I planned on starting early, bout my uworld qbank in January, all pumped and ready to go.
Didnt happen haha. Started using it in May or so. I personally didnt start early cos it was just a bit too much for me to do with all the learning 2nd year, but if you can, more power to you...def wldn't hurt. At least at least try to read a couple pages of FA or something. Wldn't hurt one bit.
FA and Uworld is really all you need. If you know those COLD, and then brush up on your weak areas with other resources, you're good to go.
Lastly, do you. Be honest with yourself about your strengths/weaknesses, and don't compare yourself with ANYONE in med school. Just do you and be the BEST you can be. Thats good enough.
Good luck ya'll.
Hello everyone,
Just got my score now. I took the exam on Thursday 6th Oct, 2011.
Here are my stats and NBME/UWSA score progression for those who are interested:
Undergrad GPA:3.83, MCAT 36R
Current Med GPA 4.0,
NBME6 (1 wk in): 264
School sponsored NBME (2wk in): 260+
NBME7 (4 wk in): 271
UWSA1 (5wk in): 265+
UWSA2 (6 wk in): 265+
NBME12 (7wk in): 261
NBME11 (4 days before test date): 266
Actual USMLE score: 266/90
I kinda predicted I would get this score. I would have been happier if it were 270+ but I can't complain. The new 2-digit score rules apply to me since I took the exam after Oct 1st, 2011 and that is why my 2-digit score is lower than what most people would expect. If anyone wants me to do a write up on the resources I used, let me know and I will in the next couple of days. For now, good luck on your studies and wishing you all the best. See you all on the Step 2 forums
Hello everyone,
Just got my score now. I took the exam on Thursday 6th Oct, 2011.
Here are my stats and NBME/UWSA score progression for those who are interested:
Undergrad GPA:3.83, MCAT 36R
Current Med GPA 4.0,
NBME6 (1 wk in): 264
School sponsored NBME (2wk in): 260+
NBME7 (4 wk in): 271
UWSA1 (5wk in): 265+
UWSA2 (6 wk in): 265+
NBME12 (7wk in): 261
NBME11 (4 days before test date): 266
Actual USMLE score: 266/90
I kinda predicted I would get this score. I would have been happier if it were 270+ but I can't complain. The new 2-digit score rules apply to me since I took the exam after Oct 1st, 2011 and that is why my 2-digit score is lower than what most people would expect. If anyone wants me to do a write up on the resources I used, let me know and I will in the next couple of days. For now, good luck on your studies and wishing you all the best. See you all on the Step 2 forums
The USMLE has changed how a 2-digit score relates to a 3-digit score as of October 1st, 2011. 2-digit score before and after that date are not equivalent. You can read about it here : http://www.usmle.org/announcements/?ContentId=81
Here is the part that illustrates the new relationship between the 3-digit and 2-digit score:
"The change in scoring procedures will introduce a more stable relationship between score scales in the future. Those receiving 2-digit score results under the new system will note that, in most instances, the 2-digit score associated with a specific 3-digit score will be substantially lower than it was prior to this change."
Anywhoo, I would love to read a write-up of how you studied and maybe what you could have done differently for the 270+
I would also love to see your resources and time line! Although I only have about a month still couldnt hurt I guess!
He got a 264 on an NBME ONE WEEK into his studying. I doubt it matters what resources he used or how he studied to get a 266 on the real thing.
Congratulations, norealname. Great score!
cmon people wake up and open your eyes... he is an excellent AMG student, look at his medical school grades.. just go to wikipedia and see that 4.0 corresponds to A grade which is the maximal scale. why do you want to know from where he studied, he could have used just FA or just UW for 3 days and still get this grade because he's just an amazing student. moreover, his school must be very aware of board subjects.
keep up studying and aim for 245, this kind of scores (260++) are only for outstanding, long-time working students.
I'm an AMG with a 4.0 and I'm top 5 in my class of over 200. Does this mean I shouldn't study very much because I'm automatically guaranteed a 250+? I think it would be useful to see norealname's time frame and resources. Just because I am doing well doesn't guarantee me anything and all of us could benefit from the guidance of others, especially people who have been successful with the exam.
So, I'd still like the see the time frame and resources if norealname is up to it.
^^
typical atitude of above average student "oh I'm so afraid of not scoring well even though I'm the best of my class and I know everything"
its the same all over the world for what I can see, here is the same :|
cmon people wake up and open your eyes... he is an excellent AMG student.
^^
typical atitude of above average student "oh I'm so afraid of not scoring well even though I'm the best of my class and I know everything"
its the same all over the world for what I can see, here is the same :|
I'm an AMG with a 4.0 and I'm top 5 in my class of over 200. Does this mean I shouldn't study very much because I'm automatically guaranteed a 250+? I think it would be useful to see norealname's time frame and resources. Just because I am doing well doesn't guarantee me anything and all of us could benefit from the guidance of others, especially people who have been successful with the exam.