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Hello everyone. I am a second year who will write the exam in June 2011. Meanwhile let this be a good thread where everyone share their study progress and recent trend of the exam.
Are we talking about pelvic floor, urogenital diaphragm, pudendal nerve sort of questions or more like CT scans and MRIs? I'm thinking about just memorizing the crap out of HY anatomy.
YES
exactly BOTH. and for anatomy in general know all the CT scans!
I had one question that asked a question and then each answer choice A, B, C, D was each a CT scan!
I feel like some of the anatomy you wouldnt know even if you studied the crap out of anatomy, so i guess you can only do so much.
Hate to burst your bubble but consensus is it overestimates your score.
Dont sweat it Master. I think someone else on this thread felt like they did horrible and ended up getting a 99... so yea.
@49ers- I don't know what the people at my school were on but they said a whole bunch of sections in FA were inadequate.. including Biochem and Embryology. If you say its fine though, that's good enough for me! Biochem/Embryo are sooo brutal to learn.
So the general gist of what everyone is saying is 'know everything' - gotcha.
I had 1-2 that FA couldn't answer and the other 3 or so were not explicitly answered by FA. For the latter 3, the disorders weren't there, but the enzymes were at least listed and you could reason it out if you were patient. I count a question as difficult if FA can't answer it for me. 🙂^^I got a couple fat processing questions, but nothing FA or UW didn't answer.
Haha, enjoy it!I had 1-2 that FA couldn't answer and the other 3 or so were not explicitly answered by FA. For the latter 3, the disorders weren't there, but the enzymes were at least listed and you could reason it out if you were patient. I count a question as difficult if FA can't answer it for me. 🙂
Great stuff about completing the exam that nobody mentions: Doing 4 weeks of laundry, vacuuming and "dust Buster"-ing the apartment, unloading all those useless review books that you've been holding onto for 2 years just in the off chance that you'll really, really need it one day, organizing the bookshelf, dusting behind those unused review books you just got rid of, not going back to your study/lunch spot, deleting step 1 relevant bookmarks and UWorld shorcut, not clicking on any circles for at least a few weeks, moving onto clinically relevant material that when learned can actually improve your ability to keep patients safe, pleasure reading, not lugging around a 40 lb backpack with at least a laptop, FA, and RR path in there, the list could go on forever.
I had 1-2 that FA couldn't answer and the other 3 or so were not explicitly answered by FA. For the latter 3, the disorders weren't there, but the enzymes were at least listed and you could reason it out if you were patient. I count a question as difficult if FA can't answer it for me. 🙂
Great stuff about completing the exam that nobody mentions: Doing 4 weeks of laundry, vacuuming and "dust Buster"-ing the apartment, unloading all those useless review books that you've been holding onto for 2 years just in the off chance that you'll really, really need it one day, organizing the bookshelf, dusting behind those unused review books you just got rid of, not going back to your study/lunch spot, deleting step 1 relevant bookmarks and UWorld shorcut, not clicking on any circles for at least a few weeks, moving onto clinically relevant material that when learned can actually improve your ability to keep patients safe, pleasure reading, not lugging around a 40 lb backpack with at least a laptop, FA, and RR path in there, the list could go on forever.
I forgot downstream mediators of Gq. I can re-write all of GCFLATCHAMP, GGGOAAAAT, PETCAT (incl nuclear receptors mentioned by UWorld and Qbank), the JAK/STAT list, and the intrinsic tyrosine kinase list, but I never once thought I would have trouble remembering the grouping of IP3/Ca and DAG/PKC. Ended up getting it right, but the answer was buried so deep I spent like 4-5 minutes on the Q and finally just allowed my muscle memory to answer it.Took the beast on Wednesday.
Someone make me feel better about this... did anyone else just flat out forget things for questions that should have been easy (such as drug names and second messengers for hormones)? I feel so dumb right now. I focused too much on my weaknesses during that last week of studying that a lot of the pharm slipped my mind.
My NBME scores were in the 230-240 range... I definitely feel I underperformed due to test pressure and missing a few easy ones.
I wish this test was pass fail :-(
I've actually no idea, as I tuned that message out since my exam was before that. I believe some posters were saying that the grouping of some test items was being changed and that more immunology was added AND that there would be an 3-8(?) week score delay for those taking after the 16th or 17th. Sorry I don't know more.My heartiest congratulations! It sounds like you went through a crazy study period (after your rotations no less), so you deserve the rest and relaxation and pleasure reading. I can't wait to be in the same situation in a few days.
I do have a question for you though - is this planned addition of questions supposed to occur ON the 17th or after the 17th? Because that's the day my test is, lol
hey arc
i think they might be adding some more immuno questions (they are making immuno its own section, which IMO probably means that you are less likely to get a test with very little immuno, but not particularly more likely to get tons of immuno). Also all tests taken may 17th and later will receive scores in mid july.
hey arc
i think they might be adding some more immuno questions (they are making immuno its own section, which IMO probably means that you are less likely to get a test with very little immuno, but not particularly more likely to get tons of immuno). Also all tests taken may 17th and later will receive scores in mid july.
Both, and no.Scuba, when you say fat processing, what exactly do you mean? Sorry, may be a dumb question but Im confused if you're referring to all the lipoprotein stuff or fatty acid metabolism and CHL synthesis. Thanks and big congrats on being done! Since you already did rotations, are you planning on taking Step 2 soon?
I had 1-2 that FA couldn't answer and the other 3 or so were not explicitly answered by FA. For the latter 3, the disorders weren't there, but the enzymes were at least listed and you could reason it out if you were patient. I count a question as difficult if FA can't answer it for me. 🙂
Great stuff about completing the exam that nobody mentions: Doing 4 weeks of laundry, vacuuming and "dust Buster"-ing the apartment, unloading all those useless review books that you've been holding onto for 2 years just in the off chance that you'll really, really need it one day, organizing the bookshelf, dusting behind those unused review books you just got rid of, not going back to your study/lunch spot, deleting step 1 relevant bookmarks and UWorld shorcut, not clicking on any circles for at least a few weeks, moving onto clinically relevant material that when learned can actually improve your ability to keep patients safe, pleasure reading, not lugging around a 40 lb backpack with at least a laptop, FA, and RR path in there, the list could go on forever.
wont you need them for step 2?Great stuff after completing MY exam in July: "The Great Purge." Burning all of my Step 1 Books like it was the Spanish Inquisition.
Both, and no.
The 4 pages in FA (have only 2010 available) that covered FA ox and synthesis, chylomicron and VLDL metabolism, and actions of lipoprotein particles were relevant to 10+ questions on my exam. Only other pages that were as high yield were maybe the vitamins, autonomic pharm, cytokines, immune deficiencies, and biostats. If I had to put a number on it, I'd say that those 10-20 pages were 10-15%+ of my exam. Everyone draws different questions, but those topics will be well represented on every exam I'd think.
Great stuff after completing MY exam in July: "The Great Purge." Burning all of my Step 1 Books like it was the Spanish Inquisition.
I forgot downstream mediators of Gq. I can re-write all of GCFLATCHAMP, GGGOAAAAT, PETCAT (incl nuclear receptors mentioned by UWorld and Qbank), the JAK/STAT list, and the intrinsic tyrosine kinase list, but I never once thought I would have trouble remembering the grouping of IP3/Ca and DAG/PKC. Ended up getting it right, but the answer was buried so deep I spent like 4-5 minutes on the Q and finally just allowed my muscle memory to answer it.
People with multiple NBMEs in a certain range very, very rarely score below that range and often score above. Those 5-10 questions you aren't 100% sure of and spend the last 10 minutes of your test fretting over can really mess with you and aren't a reflection of how you did on the other 35 questions.
ScubaStarved can you explain those pneumonics that you posted?
wont you need them for step 2?
Not the mnemonic he's talking about, but the one FA has for the various actions of the receptors is pretty awesome:
"qiss and qiq until you're siq of sqs"
q - alpha 1
i - alpha 2
s - beta 1
s - beta 2
q - M1
i - M2
q - M3
s - D1
i - D2
q - H1
s - H2
q - V1
s - V2
The first mnemonic he has there is the cAMP ones I believe
this mnemonic never made sense to me. If you just memorize the mnemonics on the bottom of that page (inhibitory is "mad 2s," Gq coupled is"HAV 1 M&M," and everything else is Gs), then you have memorized everything in that above mnemonic.... with the one you posted you have to not only remember the mnemonic but hten also remember which order to put the receptors in...just seems like a lot of unnecssary work. But i guess if it works...
this mnemonic never made sense to me. If you just memorize the mnemonics on the bottom of that page (inhibitory is "mad 2s," Gq coupled is"HAV 1 M&M," and everything else is Gs), then you have memorized everything in that above mnemonic.... with the one you posted you have to not only remember the mnemonic but hten also remember which order to put the receptors in...just seems like a lot of unnecssary work. But i guess if it works...
I found the long one easier just because eith the exception of M1-M3 they are in alphabetical order. So I just had to remember where M1-M3 went. But ya, different things stick for different people I guess!
this mnemonic never made sense to me. If you just memorize the mnemonics on the bottom of that page (inhibitory is "mad 2s," Gq coupled is"HAV 1 M&M," and everything else is Gs), then you have memorized everything in that above mnemonic.... with the one you posted you have to not only remember the mnemonic but hten also remember which order to put the receptors in...just seems like a lot of unnecssary work. But i guess if it works...
I've used it since day one... so yes it works for me. And the order isn't exactly rocket science, it's by class and alphabetical/numerical within each class
- WTF is FOXO gene?
Yep. It did. Pretty sure I got it right based on what I researched when I got home, but it was fantastically frustrating given that I don't think I've ever heard of that in my life o_0FOXO3 gene? That must have made you want to stick a fork in your head.
Well, that sucked. And, I'm typically a "good test taker". My exam was significantly more difficult than UWorld AND rather than being concept-heavy it was detail-oriented--pretty much EXACTLY the opposite of dogma I was brainwashed with.
- Fairly detailed anatomy of the limbs and the pelvic region complete WITH lots of confusing answer choices. (And, my anatomy percentile on UW was pretty darn high, like 80th percentile or something).
- Not only do you need to know the cause of many popular diseases, but you also needed to be able to know definitively which exact one was THE most common because they definitely listed only legitimate causes. Some things you expect this on, others not so much.
- WTF is FOXO gene? That gene doesn't exist in all of FA 2010.
- Was told that images weren't that high-yield, and I was operating on really short time so I focused on learning mechanisms and skimming pics. WRONG. The first half of my exam was absolutely littered with images, some of them both poor in quality and asking for very specific details. E.g. Take a picture of a beat-up brain steam, pixelate it, and then put an arrow pointing somewhere in the general vicinity of the pons and ask me which nerve is there.
I could go on for a while, but I don't feel like it.
All I know is that I had more red flags marked than I ever imagined I would.
I went in fairly confident after having an uptrend in my scores to pretty decent numbers, but now I'm hoping I didn't fail and that if I did pass it's at least >200.
I figured that given I had a pretty good handle on pretty much everything in FA, was scoring fairly well, and considering there are 8 blocks of 46 question there was NO WAY they'd hit me with a bunch of stuff I didn't know. Boy was I wrong.
FML
I didn't have a lot of prep time, but I took UWSA form 1 as a diag and got ~200 (~53% correct); did some UWorld q's that same day and I was still there at about that 52% mark. That 52% UW qbank score estimator estimate (http://usmle-score-correlation.blogspot.com/) correlated almost exactly with my UWSA diag estimate, so I figure it was a fair representation of my capabilities at the time.raynor can you please post some details on your prep and your uptrend in scores? did you take the NBMEs or UWAs???
Since a few people asked: the mnemonics I posted are in FA's endocrine section. At least they are in the 2010? I added a few signals to each as appropriate when they came up in UWorld or Qbank. I am not responsible for the accuracy of my addtions to FA's list, nor do I think they will prove very high yield. 🙂I forgot downstream mediators of Gq. I can re-write all of GCFLATCHAMP, GGGOAAAAT, PETCAT (incl nuclear receptors mentioned by UWorld and Qbank), the JAK/STAT list, and the intrinsic tyrosine kinase list, but I never once thought I would have trouble remembering the grouping of IP3/Ca and DAG/PKC. Ended up getting it right, but the answer was buried so deep I spent like 4-5 minutes on the Q and finally just allowed my muscle memory to answer it.
Easy tiger, I wsnt comin at you. Like I sid if it works then it works. Whether its rocket science or not, its still something else to remember. Seemed odd to me that FA would use noth sense they are for the same thing. I just went with the one that required me to remember the least amount of stuff!
Well, that sucked. And, I'm typically a "good test taker". My exam was significantly more difficult than UWorld AND rather than being concept-heavy it was detail-oriented--pretty much EXACTLY the opposite of dogma I was brainwashed with.
- Fairly detailed anatomy of the limbs and the pelvic region complete WITH lots of confusing answer choices. (And, my anatomy percentile on UW was pretty darn high, like 80th percentile or something).
- Not only do you need to know the cause of many popular diseases, but you also needed to be able to know definitively which exact one was THE most common because they definitely listed only legitimate causes. Some things you expect this on, others not so much.
- WTF is FOXO gene? That gene doesn't exist in all of FA 2010.
- Was told that images weren't that high-yield, and I was operating on really short time so I focused on learning mechanisms and skimming pics. WRONG. The first half of my exam was absolutely littered with images, some of them both poor in quality and asking for very specific details. E.g. Take a picture of a beat-up brain steam, pixelate it, and then put an arrow pointing somewhere in the general vicinity of the pons and ask me which nerve is there.
I could go on for a while, but I don't feel like it.
All I know is that I had more red flags marked than I ever imagined I would.
I went in fairly confident after having an uptrend in my scores to pretty decent numbers, but now I'm hoping I didn't fail and that if I did pass it's at least >200.
I figured that given I had a pretty good handle on pretty much everything in FA, was scoring fairly well, and considering there are 8 blocks of 46 question there was NO WAY they'd hit me with a bunch of stuff I didn't know. Boy was I wrong.
FML
ugh these responses crank that anxiety up. i can't wait to hear what differences (or if people even notice them?) after the new crop of questions rolls out...thanks to everyone who writes these things though, it's incredibly informative.
The pelvic anatomy wasn't THAT horrible. Just worse than I imagined. Muscles, innervation, lymph nodes, veins, arteries, etc but nothing like the various fascia layers of the pelvis and perinium w/ f"luid breaking one compartment, where does it aacumulate?" type of questions. More than what you'll find in FA, but don't crack open Grey's anatomy.Yeah I definitely appreciate everyone who is taking time to write about their experiences. 👍👍👍
And also, I refuse to study pelvic anatomy until I hear from the post-May 19th test takers! 😉
[Dear pelvis,
I hate you.
Regards,
quepatho]
Thanks for sharing your experiences guys ...
The fact that a lot of you took the test around the same time/day and have very different experiences, makes me wonder what kind of a beast this is... I guess I ll find out soon![]()
Give the guy a break, man. He's not even 24 hours removed from taking his test, and you're already asking him for details.raynor can you please post some details on your prep and your uptrend in scores? did you take the NBMEs or UWAs???