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Hello everyone. I am a second year who will write the exam in June 2011. Meanwhile let this be a good thread where everyone share their study progress and recent trend of the exam.
apparently i'm not internet savy anymore. i've learned two phrases this week: qft and ymmv. hopefully that's a question on the test! haha
Hey! In answering a previous question as to why I purchased a "new" subscription...
After I went through uw once with my 1st subscription, I tried creating tests with "all" questions. About 3 tests in, I realized that UW-makers were smart and that those 3 tests consisted of circulating most of the same questions. Thus, I don't think I was getting a fair spread of questions derived from the whole qbank. I think they probably do that to increase profit, but what do I know. I think if you are planning on going through all your "incorrects" as opposed to seeing "all" questions again, you could probably get away with using your old subscription. But if you're like me and you want to do the whole thing again, you will quickly realize why this isn't possible with your old subscription! Unless of course you purchase a 6mo+ and can reset (not in my case). Hope that's helpful!
Re: FA.....yep, looks like sole FA memorization just ain't gonna cut it anymore these days. Lol...
lol I'm startinto wonder if I took the right exam. The format was nothing like UW. The interface was identical to Kaplan Qbank in every way.
RR and GT were my pre-studying stuff. When I tell my first year friends, I usually recommend those two in tandem to really destroy this thing. Unfortunately, I had to switch to lite mode during my 4 weeks of intensive studying just due to 200-250 questions per day in comprehensive. Overall, it really really helped me just because I suck at reading FA and didn't have to make notecards myself. I'll let you know on Wednesday (assuming I get on a computer after the test...).
Are the days of FA numbered?
Re: FA.....yep, looks like sole FA memorization just ain't gonna cut it anymore these days. Lol...
Can we look at FA between blocks?
I just have a quick question for the experienced ones here about my method. With all this talk about how FA "isn't enough", its getting me a little nervous. My test is on next Saturday. For the first 4 weeks of studying I read BRS physio and path, and some other books (RR Biochem, HY neuroanatomy, Road map anatomy, HY embryo, HY behavioral, along with microcards and pharmcards), and my main method was to match these sources up with the sections in first aid and write notes in where I thought there were high yield facts missing. Now for the last 2 weeks before the test I have been doing mainly 3 blocks of UWorld a day and then just going over all of FA one more time. On the UWorld blocks I have been getting consistently in the mid 70s/sometimes 80s. Is this a good method?
Ok, one more thing...while there are some nit-picky detail questions (kinetoplasmids anyone?),
FA pass...this first aid is not enough is bull****...of course its not enough because you have to understand the concepts in First aid which you gain from your first two years of class (or Robbins or Golkan i guess). I mean there are always going to be questions that arent in first aid, but if you understand and know all of first aid I dont see why you cant make a 240+. Standardized tests are not direct recall, obvi.Seriously...all of these FA is not enough posts are making me nervous as well! I just picked up goljan RR and thought I should read through that once but I have my test in a little over a week, so I'm not sure this is a great idea...
One more FA pass vs. Goljan?
Do the people who have taken it already recommend skipping the tutorial if you have done UWorld to get the extra break time? I feel like if the interface is the same exact one as UWorld why waste time with a tutorial.
Spend a few moments during the tutorial to make sure your headphone works (on the page that tests it)
You don't want to get to a media clip and the nfind out your headphones do not work.
Ohhh, so you can like go through the tutorial really quick and get whatever time is left over for break? I was under the impression that you either accept the tutorial and get 15 minutes off break time or forego it and gain that extra time.
Skip the tutorial and those 15 minute (well 14 and change in reality) get added to your break/lunch time.
Bring a stopwatch with you and put it in your locker. They don't allow you to bring a watch with you and you really need to ration your time carefully during breaks.
What do we do with our phones?
Stays in the locker.
Yeah, definitely test your headphones.
You will still have some time left over after doing the tutorial (quickly). Just to reiterate, it was NOT like the NBME tutorial. But do check that your headphones work (mine didn't at first and I had to switch).
What do we do with our phones?
They make you turn them off and put them in the lockers.
Ah, so I won't get to use it. That's what I was assuming but thought it was worth checking. Thanks!
Taking it tomorrow!![]()
Thanks! So I'll have access to it during my breaks and can use it as a stopwatch?
This FA is not enough talk is just scaring me too much. I feel demotivated and don't feel like studying :/
I just wanna know if the NBMEs (I did 7, 11, 12) were a good representation and if you all are expecting a score similar to what you got on them?
C'mon let's be logical for a sec
If everyone saying FA wasn't enough for a question or 2 or 20 or 200, everyone will probably be getting it/them wrong
C'mon let's be logical for a sec
If everyone saying FA wasn't enough for a question or 2 or 20 or 200, everyone will probably be getting it/them wrong
Did you guys take your own ear plugs and headphones?
taking in the beast in less than an hour!!
Taking the exam on Monday. It's been incredibly hard to study these last few days! I need to finish up my second go at UWorld and my second pass of FA today and I just can't seem to get started. I've read so many posts on here where people say the same thing, and I used to think, "How can they feel that way? This exam is SO important!" Well, here I am, BURNT out. haha. I guess I feel like there's just not a lot more that I can learn at this point.
Oh well, Good luck to everyone! This thread has been very helpful during my studying and I felt like I needed to stop being a creepy lurker and start contibuting a bit. 😛
Took the beast today. I'll refrain from doing a full write-up until my score comes back (if I somehow managed to blow it, then my advice isn't worth much, right?) However, here's my initial impressions...
- Test was fair/balanced. Many qs were easier than your average uworld q. There were nbme repeats (of course) but the real shocker is that my exam seemed to have about double the word-for-word (or close to it) repeat questions from usmleconsult as from uworld. I had no "linked" questions, very few brain slides (all but one of which wasn't hard), and a reasonable number of abdominal/pelvic anatomy qs (most of which I could deal with relatively easily). Aside from biostats, I had perhaps one additional question where I was asked to calculate anything, and maybe 2 qs that involved limb innervation/musculature (and they were obvious).
- I thought the overall style of the exam qs was actually closer to usmleconsult than uworld. My stems were not long at all; there were a fair few one-liners and very, very few stems went on for longer than your average paragraph. Believe it or not, on many qs they're really not trying to trick you, and a lot of the questions simply struck me as being plain, bland and straightforward. Of course, some were uworld-esque mind-melting brain teasers - but I really thought these accounted for no more than 5-10 qs out of each block. (Some blocks didn't seem to have any.)
- I had no time problems. I was often able to make 2 full passes of the qs before time got called each block.
- FA was adequate for the most part, but you need to back it up with a lot of practice qs for best results. I did 3 full banks (uworld+qbank+usmleconsult), and I would have done more if I'd had time. I also used Gunner Training, which I think is the most underrated boards tool out there. FA was an important component of my study plan, but GT was responsible for my biggest gains. It took me from being a micro, immuno and biochem idiot to having sheer mastery of each. If I'd had enough time to go all the way through GT and master all the material, I have no doubt that this would have been a 260+ performance. As it stands, I think (I hope) I broke 240...but I'm not going to jinx it.
- Don't do the Taus method. I started with this and frankly it wasted a lot of time early on that would have been better spent with GT and question banks. Annotation is incredibly time consuming, and I do not think it helped me absorb the material. Furthermore, a lot of what I annotated did not seem very relevant and/or important later on. The only Taus method books I'd unconditionally recommend are Levinson Immuno, HY Biostats (if you don't have a good biostats background), BRS Physio and maybe CMMRS. (I loved CMMRS when I was reading it, but in all honesty my micro % correct in the qbanks did not start rising until I did GT's micro cards.)
- While I may have just gotten an exam well-suited to my strengths (namely pharm, micro, immuno, behavioral sci, and perhaps path), I'd just like to remind you guys that this damn test is doable. When I got in front of that computer, I was literally shaking like John Glenn presumably was while he was being loaded into Friendship 7. I was utterly scared that I'd find tons and tons of qs on material that I knew nothing about, that I'd be guessing left and right etc. And you know what? I got a test whose blocks were generally easier than the ones I was finishing up on uworld the day before. I scored 75-85% on those uworld blocks, and I might've done even better on these. Yes, there were a number of wtf questions and some where I simply had to guess - but usually it wasn't a complete shot in the dark. And while I've looked up a lot of answers and realised I made (at least) 15-20 boneheaded mistakes, there were many qs where I knew the answer instantly. Do questions, questions and more questions and you will be able to pull off a score you can be proud of.