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Hello everyone. I am a second year who will write the exam in June 2011. Meanwhile let this be a good thread where everyone share their study progress and recent trend of the exam.
How many per block would you say were like this?
On my first pass, I skip anything that I think would take me more than 30 seconds to answer. So that means behavioral science, anything with a long stem, and anything with a chart/graph. I do that because UW tells me that I don't usually miss questions that take me less than 30s. I also flag any question where I'm not sure of my answer or if I think they're tricking me.
Most blocks I would get to #46 with 15 questions unanswered. Then, after answering those and reviewing my flagged answers, I would end the block. Most of the time when I ended a block, I would have ~23 +/- 2 flagged. Of the flagged ones, I'll say I was maybe being overcautious on a half of them. Of the remaining ~12, you can count on 3 or 4 per block being experimental/not-graded.
So...7 or 8 per section maybe? Which makes for a hell of a lot of guessing, considering the stakes. But if you have a solid background and understanding of the material and are a good test taker, your guessing skills/medical intuition are probably pretty solid.
Does it seem like they are changing the version week by week?
Took it yesterday. It was completely awful. I feel terrible about it and like most people who have taken it recently I felt like I was guessing my way through most of the exam. I honestly felt like I hadn't studied at all. I mean seriously, how could I have worked so hard and known so little??
Honestly I'm exhausted and a little let down right now. I feel like I worked my butt off for no reason. Oh well. I just gotta wait it out now and hope for the mythical/magical curve to work it's magic in my favor! haha. ugh.
Took it yesterday. It was completely awful. I feel terrible about it and like most people who have taken it recently I felt like I was guessing my way through most of the exam. I honestly felt like I hadn't studied at all. I mean seriously, how could I have worked so hard and known so little??
Sorry, but I don't have too much to add as far as specifics of my exam. It's sorta a blur to me now. Of course I've been able to remember two easy questions that I over thought on and went back and changed my answers from right to wrong. ugh. I had a lot of physio arrow questions. I HATE those damn things. I had a lot of questions with long stems followed by a ton of lab values. I would say on about a third of those that you didn't need the lab values to answer the question. I do remember that my third block was prostate gland themed. haha. Seriously though I had like three or four questions pertaining to it just in that one block. Those were probably the most straight forward q's I got the entire day.
I was hoping for around a 240 based on practice tests and qbank performance. I seriously feel like I failed it or just barely passed which would be about as sucky since I really want to go into Rads. I don't think there's anything I would have done differently as far as studying goes. I worked really hard. I guess I would have maybe spent more time on my school work and not just settled for being a just (barely) above average student. I focused on board study at the expense of class work the last semester and I think maybe that hurt me a bit on this exam. As has been mentioned most of the questions are just a step of reasoning beyond first aid. I think excelling in class work is what will get you to that level of understanding. I dunno. Honestly I'm exhausted and a little let down right now. I feel like I worked my butt off for no reason. Oh well. I just gotta wait it out now and hope for the mythical/magical curve to work it's magic in my favor! haha. ugh.
Whenever I took an exam in my first two years that I thought for whatever reason was extraordinarily hard...I almost always scored the same in relation to my class as I usually did (alot of times even higher). I have a feeling these hard tests will turn out the same for you guys.Took it yesterday. It was completely awful. I feel terrible about it and like most people who have taken it recently I felt like I was guessing my way through most of the exam. I honestly felt like I hadn't studied at all. I mean seriously, how could I have worked so hard and known so little??
Sorry, but I don't have too much to add as far as specifics of my exam. It's sorta a blur to me now. Of course I've been able to remember two easy questions that I over thought on and went back and changed my answers from right to wrong. ugh. I had a lot of physio arrow questions. I HATE those damn things. I had a lot of questions with long stems followed by a ton of lab values. I would say on about a third of those that you didn't need the lab values to answer the question. I do remember that my third block was prostate gland themed. haha. Seriously though I had like three or four questions pertaining to it just in that one block. Those were probably the most straight forward q's I got the entire day.
I was hoping for around a 240 based on practice tests and qbank performance. I seriously feel like I failed it or just barely passed which would be about as sucky since I really want to go into Rads. I don't think there's anything I would have done differently as far as studying goes. I worked really hard. I guess I would have maybe spent more time on my school work and not just settled for being a just (barely) above average student. I focused on board study at the expense of class work the last semester and I think maybe that hurt me a bit on this exam. As has been mentioned most of the questions are just a step of reasoning beyond first aid. I think excelling in class work is what will get you to that level of understanding. I dunno. Honestly I'm exhausted and a little let down right now. I feel like I worked my butt off for no reason. Oh well. I just gotta wait it out now and hope for the mythical/magical curve to work it's magic in my favor! haha. ugh.
Hi
UW: 100% complete (one pass only), 90%
NBME 7: 710/271
NBME 11: 710/271
NBME 12: 720/273
Hi
Long time lurker, first time poster. I just took my exam last week, so I thought I'd add to the collection. I think I did really well. To be honest, all I did was FA. So I can be your guinea pig for using FA only to prepare for this new exam content. I went through it 3 times prior to the test and that was enough for me. Basically, I used no other review books or QBanks besides UW. Here are my scores:
UW: 100% complete (one pass only), 90%
NBME 7: 710/271
NBME 11: 710/271
NBME 12: 720/273
I can't even believe I did so well using only FA, and I don't think my exam was any easier than the next guy. So all that talk about FA not being enough is horsesh*t in my opinion.
Also, I got a 30 on the MCAT and was not the top student of my class, so let that be a testament that this method can work for anyone.
Anyway, my advice: Do your FA run-throughs first, then do UW, then finish your study period by doing NBMEs. Go back and brush up on your weaknesses right before the test. You'll be fine if you use this method. The key is here to stick to only one book, and that book is FA. Its a solid book. Go through it 3x before doing UW. Seriously, I don't think anything else would have added to my ability to do well that day. So don't let the other posters freak you out. You'll do fine with the 'new' exam content, even with the fail-safe method of using FA. Just my $0.02.
I just took my test, and if you want a tip:
Go read up on the anatomical disorders. I won't go into specifics. Somethings that may *seem* like it was designed for Step 2 Surgery, think again....
Well I dont want to get into trouble but...
There were a fair number of anatomical questions that framed it all around an anatomical condition with a name:
Ex. (this example was not on my exam)
Volkmann's ischemic contracture... this name is never used, but it is described and an association is asked.
Btw, does anyone know what C5-C9 deficiency leads to? (Besides the obvious Neisseria bacteremia?) I only ask, because..... it is an interesting medical topic that deserves more attention....
Wow, they asked something like that. That just seems really specific for anatomy. And to think I thought I had a good grasp on anatomy. Thanks for sharing. How was your timing per block. Did you finish with enough time?
I just blasted through each vignette as fast as possible. I finished the first go around with about 30 minutes to spare.
(My idea is to mark down the longer ones that require thinking and separate them from the "chippies.")
Then in that remaining half an hour, I would very carefully go through the marked ones. There are many "gamesmanship" tricks within the longer vignettes. A number of times, I realized most of what they were giving was useless to answering the specific question at hand. (Look very closely at what each long vignette is actually asking)
Moreover, if you see something that is bewilderingly foreign, work from the answer choices. You may be able to eliminate answers solely based on logic itself!
I just blasted through each vignette as fast as possible. I finished the first go around with about 30 minutes to spare.
(My idea is to mark down the longer ones that require thinking and separate them from the "chippies.")
Then in that remaining half an hour, I would very carefully go through the marked ones. There are many "gamesmanship" tricks within the longer vignettes. A number of times, I realized most of what they were giving was useless to answering the specific question at hand. (Look very closely at what each long vignette is actually asking)
Moreover, if you see something that is bewilderingly foreign, work from the answer choices. You may be able to eliminate answers solely based on logic itself!
Death?Btw, does anyone know what C5-C9 deficiency leads to? (Besides the obvious Neisseria bacteremia?) I only ask, because..... it is an interesting medical topic that deserves more attention....
Death?
haha i was kidding..but im curious?Never mind, I found the answer by pouring through research papers... sheesh... how picky....
Never mind, I found the answer by pouring through research papers... sheesh... how picky....
🙄 the anonymity of the internet makes anything possibleI didn't think science had advanced to the point of making cyborgs yet...who...I mean what are you? How are these scores possible?
I took the exam today. Such a beast. So glad to get this over with. Here are some random thoughts I had on the exam:
- It is definitely true that some people can get exams with a "focus." I had a disproportionate amount of renal questions (at least that is what it felt like). I also had a lot of anatomy, but little biochem.
- I think I had about 15 "lol what?" anatomy questions. Seriously, I don't know how you were supposed to prepare for these. Either you knew them or you didn't. They all focused on some sort description about a clinical injury, followed by a question about what was injured, what was near what was injured, or what innervated what was injured. They were not in UWorld and they were not in FA. I did well in my undergrad anatomy course, and I had no idea on these. I don't think there was anything you could do to reasonably prepare for these.
- I got a Foxo1 question, lol. You didn't need to konw anything about the gene to answer the question, though. The question could easily have been about "gene x."
- UWorld is definitely the best prep for the exam.
- Know the classic presentations of diseases (i.e. what's in FA). There were a ton of softball questions that described the stereotypical disease and just flat out asked "what is this?/what is the mutation?/inheritance?/etc."
- There are a lot of questions that are just plain not in FA or Uworld. Don't freak out, just answer them as best you can, I guess. No one can know everything.
- Kid falls out of a tree and lands on a fence, crotch first. Ouch.
- A lot of people have harped on pelvic anatomy. I had a few, but they all focused about injuries and I don't think you could reasonably prepare for them.
- I went through UWorld and did FA at least 3 times (probably 3.5). I felt that, while FA was very useful, that there was still a good portion of the test not covered by FA. Probably 20-30% of my exam. At first this bugged me, and then I realized that there was nothing to be done about it. I only had 4 weeks to study (what most people have) and I didn't have time for anything else. If you have time to go through all of Kaplan 3x/whatever else (and actually learn it) I guess that's great but there just isn't time to review that much.
- There were a decent number of questions that I remember seeing/learning about during undergrad/other parts of my education and I remember thinking, "Wow, who would actually remember/know this?"
- I had a question that straight up asked "What is the chemical structure of amino acid X?" Then then had 5 chemical structures for answer choices. Lol, what a joke.
Overall, I think I did the best I could. I have no idea how I did. I could get a 240. I could get a 180. I honestly have no idea.
Edit: as for endurance, I was completely fine. I ended with 1h 40min of break time. I took a break after the first block to pee and then did 2 blocks in a row three times. I didn't feel tired at all during the exam, presumably because of adrenaline. I think this really differs between people, though. You know yourself and no one better knows how to pace yourself though you.
Congrats on being done. How many Qs per block would you say you marked?
Me either. I mostly just put that there fore the truly neurotic who want to memorize them. That way they have some justification for doing so, haha.well done....i can't believe they showed structures for AA.
1 or 2 at most. I think this also depends on what type of test taker you are. I tend to not go back and look at or change my answers. I only mark a question if I think it will take me a significant amount of time to figure out (and much more time than I have already given it). In other words, I will only mark a question that I don't want to answer immediately/think about until have answered everything else. On the other hand, I have a friend who reviews nearly every answer on every block. To each his own.
Me either. I mostly just put that there fore the truly neurotic who want to memorize them. That way they have some justification for doing so, haha.
Moreover, I received a few lower yield anatomy questions.
It's all inside an anatomy atlas... but seriously now..... some of these things are just so picky.....
but to be fair, I did learn about it during my gross anatomy lab days.... but who really took the time to learn every single small little orifice or structure?
Was the anatomy that bad? You are the second person today to say that? I even got lipincotts Q book just to review my anatomy for this. 15 Qs!! Seems crazy for anatomy.
I honestly don't know where you are at in your prep or what level of knowledge you are at, but please please do not stress over what I said regarding anatomy. This **** is so low yield. You can almost certainly be spending your time better somewhere else. This was stuff I never learned in first year. It was nothing I saw in the textbooks. I have no doubt it was in there somewhere, but these books are 1500+ pages. Please.
Perhaps I overemphasized how bad anatomy was. Yes, there was about 15+ questions on it. But out of that 15 most were what I would term fair (i.e. in first aid). Those two tables in the MSK chapter (upper and lower limb innervations) are pure money. About 5 were unfair.
Thanks Mace. That makes me feel better. I thought there were 15 not in first aid. You just saved me a ton of review time. I had cracked open my HY Anatomy bc of what you said. I got one more week of review. Already did Uworld twice. 3rd pass through FA. Have RR down tight. I just want a 220 to go into IM that's it, I don't even want to be a subspecialist!
Haha, I understand. I was becoming more and more neurotic towards the end. You'll do great!
Haha, I understand. I was becoming more and more neurotic towards the end. You'll do great!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudofolliculitis_barbae
Here's a nice tidbit I picked up form reading First Aid Family Medicine...
a "tidbit"
Hey Mace, how'd the exam feel compared to UW or NBME's?
Congrats on finishing!
So I guess you have curly hair?
Anyway, im just trying to say reading First Aid Family medicine and Internal Medicine helped quite a bit on the clinical and pathophysiology of Step 1.
When I say clinical, I mean the "what do you do next?" questions that are at least based on the H&P
(as opposed to a behavioral science "what do you do next?")
Thanks for the example. This helps clarify what everyone meant by one step beyond. I wasn't really getting what they meant. This actually is a good example. Thanks man.
Thanks man, appreciate the words of encouragement. Question for you, why aren't you out drinking or playing Mass Effect 2?