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Hello everyone. I am a second year who will write the exam in June 2011. Meanwhile let this be a good thread where everyone share their study progress and recent trend of the exam.
is it really the equivalent of one cup? i've been drinking these rockstars recently which have 240 mg of caffeine...but they make you need to use the restroom a lot. i probably should switch over to the 5 hr thing.My biggest weapon against test fatigue were those stupid 5 hour energy type things. They are about 1 cup of coffee worth of caffeine in them, but it limited my fluid intake so I didn't have to pee really bad during a block.
Using one's break periods to their fullest extent is also useful. I put eye drops in, listened to a few minutes of music and recharged in the sun, as well as did some pushups and consumed more caffeine.
The 2nd half of my 5th block was where I started to feel that wall. Luckily, I got an extra surge that really pushed me through till the end...mostly because of the energy drink, protein bar and a megadose of caffeine.
is it really the equivalent of one cup? i've been drinking these rockstars recently which have 240 mg of caffeine...but they make you need to use the restroom a lot. i probably should switch over to the 5 hr thing.
Some of my friends get headaches from the 5 hr drinks so definately take a trial run with those and then keep some tylenol handy.
Ooooo thanks for the heads up. I may just stick to rockstars and coffee and take a pee break after each block instead.Some of my friends get headaches from the 5 hr drinks so definately take a trial run with those and then keep some tylenol handy.
damn I don't usually drink coffee/energy drinks... i'm doin a 8 hr practice run this weekend. If I can't keep my stamina should I try out 5 hr energy? Iv'e always been hesitant on trying it.
Clocking out till after my test tomorrow and recovering from my hangover.
Best of luck to everyone else!
Good luck!!! 🙂Clocking out till after my test tomorrow and recovering from my hangover.
Best of luck to everyone else!
Can we have drinks with us during the test or just during breaks?
Clocking out till after my test tomorrow and recovering from my hangover.
Best of luck to everyone else!
Whew...Officially calling it quits with studying. Think I have done everything possible, now its time to just rest up for tomorrow. Thanks for all the advice everyone!!🙂
damn I don't usually drink coffee/energy drinks... i'm doin a 8 hr practice run this weekend. If I can't keep my stamina should I try out 5 hr energy? Iv'e always been hesitant on trying it.
Maybe you should try something with lower caffeine like redbull so you're not all jittery. Give both a try...
Do a trial run first if you can. I'm very sensitive to caffeine's effects, so take this for what it's worth, but I took one of those before taking the MCAT the first time and got so jittery that I damn near had a panic attack and had to void my test. Retook it later sans caffeine and did much better handling my nerves. I kinda think the 5 hr energy drink must've potentiated my anxiety level and I wasn't prepared to handle it's effects. Unless you know you can handle a huge amount of caffeine in your system at one time, then I think doing a trial run would be good first.
is it really the equivalent of one cup? i've been drinking these rockstars recently which have 240 mg of caffeine...but they make you need to use the restroom a lot. i probably should switch over to the 5 hr thing.
NOTHING goes into the test room, including drinks. So just during breaks 🙂
The woman that had us pull out our pockets and do finger prints said she worked in a prison before she had this job. I commented on the remarkable parallels between the two jobs.
For the people that did DIT and have now taken the step, do you feel it was beneficial?
it's a total lie.. 5 hours my butt.. more like 7-10!!!!!!!!!!
for those who haven't tried, you are missing out.. these things are amazing.. you don't feel jittery at all and you get super focused.. i highly highly recommend for this exam.. i took one about 15 min before starting the test and didn't get tired or lost any focus for the whole exam
Did you drink one right now by anychance?
it's a total lie.. 5 hours my butt.. more like 7-10!!!!!!!!!!
for those who haven't tried, you are missing out.. these things are amazing.. you don't feel jittery at all and you get super focused.. i highly highly recommend for this exam.. i took one about 15 min before starting the test and didn't get tired or lost any focus for the whole exam
Took it today, not gonna do a full write up because what hasn't been already by all these other posts?
Just wanted to say thanks to sdn and everyone who has posted before me, this thread definitely helped me get educated about how to tackle boards well and by the time it came around to the test it really wasn't that bad 😀
A couple things to add:
1. If it doesn't freak you out/drain you; look stuff up in between blocks. I got a question on a drug asking for the HLA type that gives a predisposition to a certain side effect. Not in uworld or first aid...looked it up on my phone and got another question on it 3 blocks later.
2. I used uworld, first aid and www.pathoma.com. I can not say enough good things about Dr. Satar, he really helped solidify my knowledge. Goljan audio and RR gives you everything you need for step 1 but way more as well. I thought pathoma was very high yield and succinct enough to fully absorb. Ended up using it in lieu of goljan.
3. The world and step 1 is a random place. I received my amazon order order for obgyn case files (my first rotation) yesterday. Quickly glanced over the first case...literally 30 seconds of reading. Got a question on it today that I would most likely not have gotten otherwise. I guess...keep your mind open to knowledge from random places...
4. Take the time to drop the kids off at the pool before your test...8 hrs is a long time😉
lol I don't think you're supposed to be looking at your phone during breaks and many testing centers have cameras in the locker area.. you must've had a lax testing center.. but congrats on being done.
Wouldn't recommend anyone doing this (atleast with the phone).. not worth the risk.
Lol, I was thinking the same thing. Just be careful and don't risk it.
Hey guys, just finished my test. SDN = best and therefore I will do my part and contribute.
In terms of studying, I subscribed to the "do a lot questions" method. I ended up finishing RX, Kaplan, 1/2 of Lippincott pathology, and UW. I was planning on finishing Lippincott pathology and doing Robbin's pathology but I ran out of time. Btw, in the first couple weeks of my study period, I did random timed UW and got scores like 40-60% and got really discouraged. I decided that reading FA and doing UW would not be sufficient for someone like me who 1) reads slowly 2) understands slowly 3) gets distracted easily.
Btw, I just want to state out-right that "doing a lot of questions" method and the "read FA 5x" method are the same thing. For people that can extract the information effectively from FA, reading 1 hour of FA is far more effective way to learn material than doing 1 hour worth of questions. With that being said, for those people who are slow learners like me, doing questions keeps me engaged and I tend to memorize the material easier by getting lots of questions wrong, oddly. At the end of the day, both students are learning the same material, but in different fashion. There is no "right" way.
As for the test, it was more like NBME than UW. What I mean by that is there were a lot of questions that had buzzwords and the diagnosis was made right off the bat. The answer choices were different enough that a basic understanding of the disease process would help you immediately pick the correct answer. Now, with that being said, there were plenty of questions where you knew it or didn't. This is the disadvantage of "NBME-style" questions. UW tends to allow you to figure things out, but sometimes NBME is brutal in that there are 1 liners that tested if you memorized a random detail.
Difficulty: Ok, in terms of difficulty, it was definitely a mixed bag. Small amount of easy, lots of medium, and small amount of hard (as I'm sure you guys could have guessed). I had a few questions where throughout the question stem I was like "Yeah, I know what is going on here" and then when I saw the choices, I did not recognize a SINGLE word. It was like a completely new language. There were random procedures and just words/diagnoses that I had NEVER seen or even remotely heard before. Kind of weird. These questions were mostly the OB/GYN type questions about procedures/techniques that you would do to pregnant women. However, I felt the VAST majority of the info was found in FA... I mean 90+%. I was nervous from the recent talk about how FA was not enough, but it definitely was for me. Oh and I did 30 min. worth of studying for dental questions and quickly looked at the molecular structures of AA but did not questions on either.
Question length: I thought it was "normal" in the sense that none were brutally long. They seemed exactly like an NBME. Maybe I got a different test from people, but I felt like the length was exactly what I expected.
Timing: Definitely marked a lot more liberally, but I definitely had enough time to go through my marked. My brain was on SUPERSPEED and I was surprised how much time I had at the end of the block even after I marked liberally. Really nice feeling being able to mull over answers. (I hope I didn't make too many careless errors... but I digress). I want to say that if you are doing well in terms of finishing questions on NBMEs, don't be too worried about timing. Just take the real exam like you're taking a practice test.
Random topics:
Let me say that embryology was tough! I never really had an issue with embryology but I was a bit surprised that I was not confident in a few of my answers. I think this may be the one section that I felt supplementation would have been helpful.
Oh, and I'm sure a lot of people are curious about anatomy. Nothing out of the ordinary for me. Nothing crazy unusual. However, word of advice, if you have HY gross anatomy, I would look over clinical procedures *BIG HINT*. An upperclassmen told me this exactly advice and I listened...and I'm glad...big time.
Biochemistry was nothing unusual. Vitamin deficiencies + things like glycogen stg diseases + gluconeogenesis/glycolysis. Pretty basic stuff.
Immunology was basic stuff. I was kind of nervous about this but FA is plenty good.
I studied biostats REALLy hard and I STILL had 1 question I couldn't answer. Very frustrating. Study biostats hard if you want to get easy points! Behavioral science was nothing unusual. Had a couple where I wasn't completely sure, but BS was never my strong suit so.. not sure how I did here.
I had 2 heart sounds. Nothing hard. I had 2 EKG rhythm strips. Nothing hard here either. I had 1 linked question. Micro was not bad. Definitely learn classic presentations.
Oh, and in terms of pictures, this was a bit iffy for me. There were definitely a few questions that you needed to be able to identify the picture, which I don't know if I did correctly or not. I really can't give you much advice about this because I really don't think it's worth flipping through all of Goljan RR to look at pictures.
Oh, and I was nervous about the whole "I got 1000 arrow questions!!!!" but honestly I got like 5-7 which really isn't a lot for a 300 question test. Also, NBME weren't jerks about the number of columns. (I was nervous about 10 column questions). I got an average of 3-4 columns which is not surprising.
Ok, thank you all for your help!!! I learned so much from you guys. I hope my post will be beneficial for some of you.
Hey guys, just finished my test. SDN = best and therefore I will do my part and contribute.
In terms of studying, I subscribed to the "do a lot questions" method. I ended up finishing RX, Kaplan, 1/2 of Lippincott pathology, and UW. I was planning on finishing Lippincott pathology and doing Robbin's pathology but I ran out of time. Btw, in the first couple weeks of my study period, I did random timed UW and got scores like 40-60% and got really discouraged. I decided that reading FA and doing UW would not be sufficient for someone like me who 1) reads slowly 2) understands slowly 3) gets distracted easily.
Btw, I just want to state out-right that "doing a lot of questions" method and the "read FA 5x" method are the same thing. For people that can extract the information effectively from FA, reading 1 hour of FA is far more effective way to learn material than doing 1 hour worth of questions. With that being said, for those people who are slow learners like me, doing questions keeps me engaged and I tend to memorize the material easier by getting lots of questions wrong, oddly. At the end of the day, both students are learning the same material, but in different fashion. There is no "right" way.
As for the test, it was more like NBME than UW. What I mean by that is there were a lot of questions that had buzzwords and the diagnosis was made right off the bat. The answer choices were different enough that a basic understanding of the disease process would help you immediately pick the correct answer. Now, with that being said, there were plenty of questions where you knew it or didn't. This is the disadvantage of "NBME-style" questions. UW tends to allow you to figure things out, but sometimes NBME is brutal in that there are 1 liners that tested if you memorized a random detail.
Difficulty: Ok, in terms of difficulty, it was definitely a mixed bag. Small amount of easy, lots of medium, and small amount of hard (as I'm sure you guys could have guessed). I had a few questions where throughout the question stem I was like "Yeah, I know what is going on here" and then when I saw the choices, I did not recognize a SINGLE word. It was like a completely new language. There were random procedures and just words/diagnoses that I had NEVER seen or even remotely heard before. Kind of weird. These questions were mostly the OB/GYN type questions about procedures/techniques that you would do to pregnant women. However, I felt the VAST majority of the info was found in FA... I mean 90+%. I was nervous from the recent talk about how FA was not enough, but it definitely was for me. Oh and I did 30 min. worth of studying for dental questions and quickly looked at the molecular structures of AA but did not questions on either.
Question length: I thought it was "normal" in the sense that none were brutally long. They seemed exactly like an NBME. Maybe I got a different test from people, but I felt like the length was exactly what I expected.
Timing: Definitely marked a lot more liberally, but I definitely had enough time to go through my marked. My brain was on SUPERSPEED and I was surprised how much time I had at the end of the block even after I marked liberally. Really nice feeling being able to mull over answers. (I hope I didn't make too many careless errors... but I digress). I want to say that if you are doing well in terms of finishing questions on NBMEs, don't be too worried about timing. Just take the real exam like you're taking a practice test.
Random topics:
Let me say that embryology was tough! I never really had an issue with embryology but I was a bit surprised that I was not confident in a few of my answers. I think this may be the one section that I felt supplementation would have been helpful.
Oh, and I'm sure a lot of people are curious about anatomy. Nothing out of the ordinary for me. Nothing crazy unusual. However, word of advice, if you have HY gross anatomy, I would look over clinical procedures *BIG HINT*. An upperclassmen told me this exactly advice and I listened...and I'm glad...big time.
Biochemistry was nothing unusual. Vitamin deficiencies + things like glycogen stg diseases + gluconeogenesis/glycolysis. Pretty basic stuff.
Immunology was basic stuff. I was kind of nervous about this but FA is plenty good.
I studied biostats REALLy hard and I STILL had 1 question I couldn't answer. Very frustrating. Study biostats hard if you want to get easy points! Behavioral science was nothing unusual. Had a couple where I wasn't completely sure, but BS was never my strong suit so.. not sure how I did here.
I had 2 heart sounds. Nothing hard. I had 2 EKG rhythm strips. Nothing hard here either. I had 1 linked question. Micro was not bad. Definitely learn classic presentations.
Oh, and in terms of pictures, this was a bit iffy for me. There were definitely a few questions that you needed to be able to identify the picture, which I don't know if I did correctly or not. I really can't give you much advice about this because I really don't think it's worth flipping through all of Goljan RR to look at pictures.
Oh, and I was nervous about the whole "I got 1000 arrow questions!!!!" but honestly I got like 5-7 which really isn't a lot for a 300 question test. Also, NBME weren't jerks about the number of columns. (I was nervous about 10 column questions). I got an average of 3-4 columns which is not surprising.
Ok, thank you all for your help!!! I learned so much from you guys. I hope my post will be beneficial for some of you.
Just finished. Wow. I'm exhausted, but it really wasn't all that bad. Seriously. Just wanted to throw that out there, it's definitely a doable exam. Will update later. I need a nap.
Hey guys, just finished my test. SDN = best and therefore I will do my part and contribute.
In terms of studying, I subscribed to the "do a lot questions" method. I ended up finishing RX, Kaplan, 1/2 of Lippincott pathology, and UW. I was planning on finishing Lippincott pathology and doing Robbin's pathology but I ran out of time. Btw, in the first couple weeks of my study period, I did random timed UW and got scores like 40-60% and got really discouraged. I decided that reading FA and doing UW would not be sufficient for someone like me who 1) reads slowly 2) understands slowly 3) gets distracted easily.
Btw, I just want to state out-right that "doing a lot of questions" method and the "read FA 5x" method are the same thing. For people that can extract the information effectively from FA, reading 1 hour of FA is far more effective way to learn material than doing 1 hour worth of questions. With that being said, for those people who are slow learners like me, doing questions keeps me engaged and I tend to memorize the material easier by getting lots of questions wrong, oddly. At the end of the day, both students are learning the same material, but in different fashion. There is no "right" way.
As for the test, it was more like NBME than UW. What I mean by that is there were a lot of questions that had buzzwords and the diagnosis was made right off the bat. The answer choices were different enough that a basic understanding of the disease process would help you immediately pick the correct answer. Now, with that being said, there were plenty of questions where you knew it or didn't. This is the disadvantage of "NBME-style" questions. UW tends to allow you to figure things out, but sometimes NBME is brutal in that there are 1 liners that tested if you memorized a random detail.
Difficulty: Ok, in terms of difficulty, it was definitely a mixed bag. Small amount of easy, lots of medium, and small amount of hard (as I'm sure you guys could have guessed). I had a few questions where throughout the question stem I was like "Yeah, I know what is going on here" and then when I saw the choices, I did not recognize a SINGLE word. It was like a completely new language. There were random procedures and just words/diagnoses that I had NEVER seen or even remotely heard before. Kind of weird. These questions were mostly the OB/GYN type questions about procedures/techniques that you would do to pregnant women. However, I felt the VAST majority of the info was found in FA... I mean 90+%. I was nervous from the recent talk about how FA was not enough, but it definitely was for me. Oh and I did 30 min. worth of studying for dental questions and quickly looked at the molecular structures of AA but did not questions on either.
Question length: I thought it was "normal" in the sense that none were brutally long. They seemed exactly like an NBME. Maybe I got a different test from people, but I felt like the length was exactly what I expected.
Timing: Definitely marked a lot more liberally, but I definitely had enough time to go through my marked. My brain was on SUPERSPEED and I was surprised how much time I had at the end of the block even after I marked liberally. Really nice feeling being able to mull over answers. (I hope I didn't make too many careless errors... but I digress). I want to say that if you are doing well in terms of finishing questions on NBMEs, don't be too worried about timing. Just take the real exam like you're taking a practice test.
Random topics:
Let me say that embryology was tough! I never really had an issue with embryology but I was a bit surprised that I was not confident in a few of my answers. I think this may be the one section that I felt supplementation would have been helpful.
Oh, and I'm sure a lot of people are curious about anatomy. Nothing out of the ordinary for me. Nothing crazy unusual. However, word of advice, if you have HY gross anatomy, I would look over clinical procedures *BIG HINT*. An upperclassmen told me this exactly advice and I listened...and I'm glad...big time.
Biochemistry was nothing unusual. Vitamin deficiencies + things like glycogen stg diseases + gluconeogenesis/glycolysis. Pretty basic stuff.
Immunology was basic stuff. I was kind of nervous about this but FA is plenty good.
I studied biostats REALLy hard and I STILL had 1 question I couldn't answer. Very frustrating. Study biostats hard if you want to get easy points! Behavioral science was nothing unusual. Had a couple where I wasn't completely sure, but BS was never my strong suit so.. not sure how I did here.
I had 2 heart sounds. Nothing hard. I had 2 EKG rhythm strips. Nothing hard here either. I had 1 linked question. Micro was not bad. Definitely learn classic presentations.
Oh, and in terms of pictures, this was a bit iffy for me. There were definitely a few questions that you needed to be able to identify the picture, which I don't know if I did correctly or not. I really can't give you much advice about this because I really don't think it's worth flipping through all of Goljan RR to look at pictures.
Oh, and I was nervous about the whole "I got 1000 arrow questions!!!!" but honestly I got like 5-7 which really isn't a lot for a 300 question test. Also, NBME weren't jerks about the number of columns. (I was nervous about 10 column questions). I got an average of 3-4 columns which is not surprising.
Ok, thank you all for your help!!! I learned so much from you guys. I hope my post will be beneficial for some of you.
What's a 10 column question mean? And thanks for the write-up.