Official 2012-2013 Heme/Onc fellowship application cycle

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Rumi2010 said:
I am IMG, graduated 2000
Has PhD from US
decent scores in all steps
chief resident
has research papers and posters
Residency in a University based community program
4 good lors but not by very femous attending

No IV yet. Any input about my chance for heam onc fellowship?
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I think every one has a chance in this game. If one program does not like you, another one will be falling head over heels for you. That is why there are over a hundred Hem/Onc programs in the country- so both the programs and the candidates can be free to pick and choose. I would say dont worry yet. It is still too early to worry. My 2 cents!
 
Tedebear said:
Zero IVs invites here too.

Just out of curiousity. If anyone knows or has an idea of the process, how do programs select 20 or so people out of 400+ applicants?

Do programs really look at all applicants that apply to the program? Seems like it would be very time consuming.

If they dont look at all 400+ applicants, is it luck of the draw if they even look at your application?

There seem to be competing forces here. Programs are very busy so how could they look at all applicants vs being fair to everyone that applies to the program.

Also do middle tier and top programs both invite the academic all stars for interviews? From a logistical perspective wouldnt it be more efficient if top programs invited top applicants and mid tier programs interviewd mid tier applicants.

what do you guys think? Should mid tier programs not interview academic all stars for an interview since they will likely go to a top program?
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In a perfect and very logical world, stars will go to top programs, mid tier programs will get the mid tier candidates and all applicants will match each cycle. But things are far from perfect so you just never know who matches where .
The programs promise that they look at all 400 applications. I will take them at their word since there is no way for me to prove they dont. It is all gonna be fine🙂
 
Tedebear said:
Zero IVs invites here too.

Just out of curiousity. If anyone knows or has an idea of the process, how do programs select 20 or so people out of 400+ applicants?

Do programs really look at all applicants that apply to the program? Seems like it would be very time consuming.

If they dont look at all 400+ applicants, is it luck of the draw if they even look at your application?

There seem to be competing forces here. Programs are very busy so how could they look at all applicants vs being fair to everyone that applies to the program.
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It kind of blows my mind that after just a couple short years, people forget everything they knew about the Match. It works exactly the same way for fellowship that it does for residency. While the number of apps (and interviews and spots) may be fewer, so are the number of people available to review the apps. A medium-sized IM program may have 3-5 people primarily reviewing apps but a medium-sized fellowship program probably has only one, maybe 2 people to do the job. So, just like in the residency match, fellowships rely on filters to cut the number down to a decent size. After that, they'll often do a quick once-over of the remaining apps to thin the herd again, followed by a more extensive review of the apps. So now, where it started out at 400 apps for 4 spots, the filters have narrowed it down to 200 and the brief eval brought it down to 100 which is a reasonable number to closely review for the 30-40 interview spots you have for those 4 spots.

Also do middle tier and top programs both invite the academic all stars for interviews? From a logistical perspective wouldnt it be more efficient if top programs invited top applicants and mid tier programs interviewd mid tier applicants.

what do you guys think? Should mid tier programs not interview academic all stars for an interview since they will likely go to a top program?
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So, first of all, programs can do whatever they want within the bounds of employment law and the Match agreement. There's no moral or legal imperative for programs to accept (or reject) any particular "tier" of candidate. You can't predict the choices any particular applicant will make and the goal of a program is to get the best fellows to come there.

That said, I was at a mid-tier program (and interviewed at both higher and lower tier programs than the one I matched at) and we would routinely interview a handful (10-20% of interview spots) superstar candidates, usually those with connections to the area or the institution. The rest of the spots were split between solid mid-tier folks (the majority, let's say 50-80%) and a few stragglers on the south end of the stats game, again, usually with some sort of connection to the area or program.
 
Thank you gut onc for an informative response.
 
rejection from VCU as well. I need H1 visa - international medical graduate. While applying, didn't realise that this program sponsors J1 only.
I guess requiring visa makes it extra difficult for international medical grads. but all you need is luck in this process.
 
Also, rejected from VCU :-(

I'm a US citizen though, so it wasn't just that...
 
Make that 6. Rejection here too.

Kinda prefer a rejection rather than waiting and waiting.

Thank you VCU for letting us know Yes or No to rejections right away. Makes it much easier for the applicants because now we can move on.

wish every program would do this.
 
Zero here as well. No rejections. I guess this is the end of week #2.
 
Tedebear said:
Make that 6. Rejection here too.

Kinda prefer a rejection rather than waiting and waiting.

Thank you VCU for letting us know Yes or No to rejections right away. Makes it much easier for the applicants because now we can move on.

wish every program would do this.
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FWIW, my former program just pushed it's first review date back to the 2nd week of August. So don't het too worked up or freaked out.
 
gutonc said:
FWIW, my former program just pushed it's first review date back to the 2nd week of August. So don't het too worked up or freaked out.
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Interview in 2nd week of August, invitation must be sent out. As far as I know, several programs will send out invitations in the middle of August. Let's cross our fingers. Keep updated each other. Good luck to everybody.
 
miki511cn said:
Interview in 2nd week of August, invitation must be sent out. As far as I know, several programs will send out invitations in the middle of August. Let's cross our fingers. Keep updated each other. Good luck to everybody.
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I'm not sure what you're saying here. As I mentioned, my former program won't even look at apps until mid-August. Interviews are going to be late October, probably just 2 dates, maybe 3.
 
gutonc said:
I'm not sure what you're saying here. As I mentioned, my former program won't even look at apps until mid-August. Interviews are going to be late October, probably just 2 dates, maybe 3.
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woops!! sorry , read the "review" as "interview"
 
Hi everybody!

Hope you all are doing great! Just found this amazing forum 😳

I applied to Hem Onc too. 🙂 So far got 1 rejection from VCU 🙂.

Good luck to all of us!

Elfik.
 
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Is it just me or has Boston University not downloaded anyone's app yet? Haven't heard anything from them so a little curious.
 
HemoOnc said:
Boston University has not downloaded mine yet..
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Boston hasn't downloaded my application yet either.

But, I did get my first interview today with VCU!!!

I am starting to stress out as two of my LORs are still not uploaded yet...I have contacted the individuals writing them, and they keep promising, but in the meantime I think I am developing an ulcer.
 
fischer said:
But, I did get my first interview today with VCU!!!

I am starting to stress out as two of my LORs are still not uploaded yet...I have contacted the individuals writing them, and they keep promising, but in the meantime I think I am developing an ulcer.
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Dude, you got an interview with two LORs still pending ? You are VERY lucky! Congrats
 
I've been told that you need a Ph.D., extensive publications, etc., to land a HemeOnc spot.

I'm an FMG coming out of a mid level IM university-based residency that is predominantly US med school grads. I have great LORs from reputable doctors who have worked with me, top 15% STEP scores, some research and a couple of publications.

Does anybody have a sense of where I'd fall on the scale of competitiveness?

Thanks! BTW, i haven't heard anything yet about interviews or rejections, etc. I've heard many programs will not be reviewing apps until mid-August.
 
with all the respect guys but I am kind of disappointed with the mentality of some members of this topic. Cancer medicine is not a place of advertising your CV, your research or other accomplishments and asking your fellows how competitive you can be or in what caliber program you can land. Cancer medicine wants compassionate physicians and above all humanists...please try to be more professional...


a physician.
 
a quiet day... got one email said application received, review extended to mid to late August
 
Chimhalter said:
I've been told that you need a Ph.D., extensive publications, etc., to land a HemeOnc spot.

I'm an FMG coming out of a mid level IM university-based residency that is predominantly US med school grads. I have great LORs from reputable doctors who have worked with me, top 15% STEP scores, some research and a couple of publications.

Does anybody have a sense of where I'd fall on the scale of competitiveness?

Thanks! BTW, i haven't heard anything yet about interviews or rejections, etc. I've heard many programs will not be reviewing apps until mid-August.
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I believe everyone has a chance in the interview/match process. Not sure about your scale of competitiveness - the moderators and program directors can help us with that one. Dont fret about rejections and interviews. They will come.
 
genecancer said:
Dude, you got an interview with two LORs still pending ? You are VERY lucky! Congrats
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Yes, I am counting my blessings....but it may be my ONLY one if I can't get the rest of my LOR's submitted...
 
UTSW
ECU
VCU
Columbia
Penn state
BIDMC
UCSF
NCI/NIH
Moffitt
Uchicago
U Mich
UC Davis
UNC
University of SC
 
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Do you need a california letter or PTAL while applying to fellowship in california just like as it was in residency application time. Got an email from one of the california program that they require a california letter to complete reviewing their application. PLs let me know.
 
cancerology said:
Do you need a california letter or PTAL while applying to fellowship in california just like as it was in residency application time. Got an email from one of the california program that they require a california letter to complete reviewing their application. PLs let me know.
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I do have PTAL. But in the application there is no place to say that you have PTAL. But I know one of my senior, who just started Nephrology fellow this year, when she applied for nephrology fellow it is not required for the PTAL.

Do you mind telling which program? thanks!
 
cancerology said:
Do you need a california letter or PTAL while applying to fellowship in california just like as it was in residency application time. Got an email from one of the california program that they require a california letter to complete reviewing their application. PLs let me know.
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If the California program says, "you need the PTAL" then...you need the PTAL.
 
Invite this morning. Finally the silence is broken. 👍
 
Hi, friends.

I'm a US grad coming from a well-known New England residency program. I have fairly good research background including a first author paper in a reputable journal. I am interested in heme malignancies, so a strong BMT program is important to me.

I've applied to 8 and gotten 1 invite so far (from my home institution). Since I can do 2 more before getting charged by ERAS, I feel like I should. I have family in and around NYC, so it makes sense to look at a few more places there. I know a lot about MSKCC's program, but what do folks know about Cornell, Columbia, and Sinai? I've heard that Cornell is quite heme-focussed. Can anyone who has trained in these places shed some light on them for me?

Thanks 🙂
 
Invite, UChicago.
 
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SwineLake98 said:
Hi, friends.

I'm a US grad coming from a well-known New England residency program. I have fairly good research background including a first author paper in a reputable journal. I am interested in heme malignancies, so a strong BMT program is important to me.

I've applied to 8 and gotten 1 invite so far (from my home institution). Since I can do 2 more before getting charged by ERAS, I feel like I should. I have family in and around NYC, so it makes sense to look at a few more places there. I know a lot about MSKCC's program, but what do folks know about Cornell, Columbia, and Sinai? I've heard that Cornell is quite heme-focussed. Can anyone who has trained in these places shed some light on them for me?

Thanks 🙂
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Cornell is all about the liquid stuff (which is why I didn't bother applying). NYU is also very heme focused but more benign than malignant. I think MSSM and Columbia are pretty well balanced. Back when I did an away there as an MS4 (which was 7 years ago, so things may have changed), Montefiore had a pretty heavy heme mal focus.

If you're interested in spreading your geographic wings, out here on the Best Coast, UW, OHSU and Stanford all have strong heme mal/BMT programs as well.
 
U Mich.

They called - so if you guys get a call from a 734- number, don't cancel it thinking it's some stupid person cold-calling for a cable company.
 
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gutonc said:
Cornell is all about the liquid stuff (which is why I didn't bother applying). NYU is also very heme focused but more benign than malignant. I think MSSM and Columbia are pretty well balanced. Back when I did an away there as an MS4 (which was 7 years ago, so things may have changed), Montefiore had a pretty heavy heme mal focus.

If you're interested in spreading your geographic wings, out here on the Best Coast, UW, OHSU and Stanford all have strong heme mal/BMT programs as well.
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Dear GutOnc,

Thank you so much!! I was looking for this everywhere! 🙂

Based on the previous search:

OHSU
U Minn
NYU
Cornell
MSKCC
Montefiore
UW
Stanford

Is there any other program which is very strong in BMT-CC?
(I heard about Thomas Jefferson Univ. but not sure)

Again thank you so much for your help and support!
 
Elfik said:
Dear GutOnc,

Thank you so much!! I was looking for this everywhere! 🙂

Based on the previous search:

OHSU
U Minn
NYU
Cornell
MSKCC
Montefiore
UW
Stanford

Is there any other program which is very strong in BMT-CC?
(I heard about Thomas Jefferson Univ. but not sure)

Again thank you so much for your help and support!
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MSKCC is very solid focused. Otherwise those programs are all pretty heme mal heavy. Utah recently started a BMT program and is rising fast. City of Hope is strong in liquids. Fox Chase as well.
 
hiii
congrats
what is ur credentials
how many interviews so far
 
hii for anyone who knows😕
what does not mean that interviews was sent by NCI .
do you think they will still send invitation for interviews
or they kind off decided
is it ood idea to call the program:scared:
 
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